[solefald]

Originally Posted by Inzane

Oh yeah? You think that's bad. You know what the US border control can do to us? They can seize our personal laptops, blackberries, cell phones, ipods, etc. basically ANYTHING they feel could hold sensitive data on it. For no reason other than we MIGHT be a threat.

How would you like to have all your personal information violated like that?

Did you notice how i said a "ridiculous rule US would use"? I am not trying to defend US and their COUNTLESS fucked up rules/regulations/violations of human rights. What I am saying is that I did not expect Canada to do that.

And as far as seizure of personal property, its not only you. Even US citizens are subject to that.

[G-Mach1]

Originally Posted by solefald

I did not say it.

But don't try to convince me that you NEVER went significantly above the speed limit... or drove after having a couple of drinks NOT realizing that you may be even .01 above the allowed BAC level?

Plus as I said, he got reckless driving charge long time ago, when he was 17-18 or something like that. Are you going to tell me that you strictly followed the rules of ANYTHING when you were 18? And don't try to label me as an "ignorant American", because i am not. I don't even have citizenship here.



To end this conversation, *I* personally think that this rule is RETARDED. How would you feel if you went some place you were invited to, just to be turned away at the door because of something you did when you were a little shit fresh out of high school?

I never called you as a Ignorant american. It was to the poster who said that there is only Polar Bears in Canada.
To answer your question about whether I was Driving after having Drinks or whether I was significantly above the speed limit the answer I have is that " I wanted to be a Police officer in this country so there fore I never did any thing Stupid which will come to haunt me in my dream Job"

I am an Immigrant to this Country and when I was in 18 I lived in a place where the only punishment you get is death. So I can tell you this I never did any thing stupid. - However I am not a saint.
I am proud to be a Canadian.

How will I feel if I was turned away when I have a invitation, well my friend in my job (IT) there is plenty of jobs in US however when we have a Job offer letter and when we go through your immigration more than 50% of us get turned away. For what? We don't know. I can tell you this it is not because of our Education not because we have a Reckless driving record and definitely not because of Criminal record. The simple reason what we get is your education is not recognized in US. I think if I am good enough to work in Canada what is the problem in Working US?
Do I get mad at your Country ? Do I come out and say that we should ban US ....blah...blah....no. Some times Rules are rules and you follow them.

[sparkyg]

Neither Canada or US is perfect and both our border securities can seem absurd, unfortunately in an attempt to control entrance into both our countries, peoples relatively small mistakes can often be exploited to refusal of entrance.

If there were murderers trying to get in I am sure we all might think diff. but they never established clear enough rules

[picus]

I wouldn't expect Canadian customs to do that too. I'd expect them to tax him on his pants or something. Canadian customs is about revenue.

FWIW, having lived 10 years in the US; US immigration is a lot more inconvenient, but I guess that wasn't your point anyway.

P.S. I should tell you guys the story about how when crossing back into the US with my American wife US immigration took her into a private room to ask her if I'd kidnapped her. That's only the beginning!

[Desi]

I actually remember covering this in one of my classes. Canada Customs (and US Customs for that matter) don't give a damn whether your conviction is a criminal offense where it occurred or not, rather if they view it as if it had occurred in Canada. Reckless Driving in Canada is a very serious criminal charge. It is usually reserved for the very very stupid. Your average yokel doing something stupid would likely get charged under the Provincial Highway Traffic Act with "Careless Driving".

The Criminal Code in Canada is national in scope, unlike the US where each state has their own criminal code. Your friend is a victim of non-uniform verbage. What is in California a very minor charge is actually a very serious charge in Canada: on paper. Thus what happens is that the border guard sees "Reckless Driving", looks it up as a Criminal Infraction in Canada and denies your friend. Simple as that really.

EDIT: I should add, from what I am aware of the border guard does not have details of the infraction thus can't make an exception. He sees a reckless driving and has no idea whether your friend was heavy on the happy-pedal or whether he mowed down a group of pedestrians with is car (well, there would probably be more charges but the point stands).

[skierman64]

As an American who has been going to Canada all my life to stay at our family cottage, I'm embarrassed by some of the comments made by my fellow Americans above.

I'm sure the Canadian customs are just responding to the increased hassle factor provided by US customs on the Canadians.

No reason for ignorant comments here. Since 80% plus Canadians speak English as their first language, what's with the French comment? I don't get it.

[MadDog]

[TK-421]

Originally Posted by MadDog

i can has some?

[takedown8]

Originally Posted by skierman64

As an American who has been going to Canada all my life to stay at our family cottage, I'm embarrassed by some of the comments made by my fellow Americans above.

I'm sure the Canadian customs are just responding to the increased hassle factor provided by US customs on the Canadians.

No reason for ignorant comments here. Since 80% plus Canadians speak English as their first language, what's with the French comment? I don't get it.

The fact is, there are a lot of brainless American members on here who make the rest of the intelligent, well-spoken American members look bad. It really has a lot to do with ignorance and a lack of knowledge and exposure. I find that people who make those types of comments are the ones who have never travelled outside of their own state or country.

I can't even believe any American would come on here complaining that a friend of theirs got hassled at the border and was denied entry. My friend was a cardiac surgery resident who was training and living in Canada for four years and paid to attend a course in Salt Lake City, Utah. He asked US customs in advance for what type of visa he would need to attend the three day course. They told him he needed a 3 month visa which he obtained.

When he got to the border? Denied entry because they said he actually requires a 6 month visa to attend this 3 day course. BS

Real reason: my friend is middle eastern from Libya. What really annoys me is why they don't just come out and say it. They really have no shame.

[MadDog]

Originally Posted by news 4 u

i can has some?

Certainly. You can have all the you want.

[TK-421]

Originally Posted by MadDog

Certainly. You can have all the you want.

thanks this should be entertaining

[Amir87]

Originally Posted by G-Mach1

Yeah Polar Bears and Oil for the rest of the world is what we have in Canada. This is how ignorant Americans are. (Oh Btw now Only I saw the Pakistan flag on your Profile - That explains every thing)
Just like another poster here said, It is all and fair if US customs and immigration pulls some thing on others. The moment a US citizen is involved the whole thing changes.
Criminal record is a Criminal record. Unless the OP's friend had a Criminal record I am sure the Immigration wouldn't have bothered with him. I have no doubts that OP's friend would have given attitude to the Immigration officer. That may be another reason why the officer decided to play hard ball with him.

Wow, someone can't handle a joke.

[shiggy]

WOW......an all time low for E90 post.com!
this is sad!!!
gone from flaming Audi and Merc owners/cars to flaming Americans/Canadians...
isnt that special!
quick someone create a big boob thread!!!

[flyer333]

+1 quick add misa campo in... she will bring peace to e90post

[solefald]

Originally Posted by takedown8

I can't even believe any American would come on here complaining that a friend of theirs got hassled at the border and was denied entry.

i NEVER said that i was an American to begin with and before you judge read the fucking thread.

And if you don't mind me asking, which group of American's did you assign me to? Let me guess.... the BRAINLESS kind that makes the other INTELLIGENT ones looks bad, right?

[solefald]

Originally Posted by Amir87

Wow, someone can't handle a joke.

Yeah... that's a nice way of putting that.

[shiggy]

Originally Posted by Amir87

Wow, someone can't handle a joke.

im afraid there is no joke or humor in this thread!!

[G-Mach1]

Originally Posted by Amir87

Wow, someone can't handle a joke.

Oh you joked. I misunderstood
I don't think it is a funny subject to begin with. May be you take it lightly but for people who love their country it is not funny.

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by takedown8

The fact is, there are a lot of brainless American members on here who make the rest of the intelligent, well-spoken American members look bad. It really has a lot to do with ignorance and a lack of knowledge and exposure. I find that people who make those types of comments are the ones who have never travelled outside of their own state or country.

I can't even believe any American would come on here complaining that a friend of theirs got hassled at the border and was denied entry. My friend was a cardiac surgery resident who was training and living in Canada for four years and paid to attend a course in Salt Lake City, Utah. He asked US customs in advance for what type of visa he would need to attend the three day course. They told him he needed a 3 month visa which he obtained.

When he got to the border? Denied entry because they said he actually requires a 6 month visa to attend this 3 day course. BS

Real reason: my friend is middle eastern from Libya. What really annoys me is why they don't just come out and say it. They really have no shame.

Takedown - well said. Thanks for chiming in - maybe some of the posters will reconsider ignorant comments made previously against Canada...then again, maybe not. Probably try to pass it off as a joke.

Nobody's perfect, and I'm certainly not saying Canada's without fault whether it be with respect to border crossing or any other subject, but there was no call for some of the comments made against Canada in this thread.

As I think GMach1 said - some of us happen to love our country too - maybe its not quite as universal as it may be in America, but its still there.

I vote for this thread being closed down - its not providing any benefit to this great forum.

[sparkyg]

Shut'er down, nothing positive here and think we all agree none of us are perfect.

Lets talk about limp modes or something

[picus]

I hope no one minds, but I am just going to take this thread in a new direction that is much more awesome.

[flyer333]

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