[apexit4]

Originally Posted by NickyC

What data? All the doom porn models you fell for turned out to be complete bullshit. Yearly deaths haven’t moved an inch, and the death rate from Controlavirus infections is a fraction what it was hyped to be. You’re the one believing in failed data from months ago, still scared and shivering. By all means though, stay hidden in your basement with your little Halloween mask on. You look cute.

Can you show us any reliable documented sources that indicate the coronavirus isnt as bad as it was projected to be? Keep in mind not all projections painted an apocalyptic scenario and each projection made various assumptions.

People like to compare the coronavirus to the common flu, so here's a quick comparison of US statistics:

Flu: 39-56 million infected, 24k-62k deaths. Thats .0006%-.0011% death rate
Coronavirus: 1.9 million infected, 109k dead, .057% death rate

Those percentages may seem small, but anyone with a basic understanding of math can see that the ratio of infected vs dead is much greater with the coronavirus.

According to current statistics, out of the currently resolved cases there is an 11% mortality rate. Essentially 1 in 10 people die from this virus. We shouldnt be dismissing the virus because projected death rates are lower than they were expected but rather thankful that it hasnt been worse. Lets not forget that as a society, plenty of us have done our part in taking protective measures to help curb the spread of the virus. This could very well be one of the reasons the previous projections appear to look overblown.

Out of curiosity, can you link me to some of the projected death rates you've read about in the past?

At the end of the day, you can believe or doubt what you read on the internet about the virus. As is the case with anything on the internet, some if its true, some of its BS, some of its sensationalized, etc, etc, etc. But what you should do is listen to what your local doctors and nurses working in the hospitals are saying. And overwhelmingly, they are saying this is a serious issue not to be taken lightly.

Btw, here are my links to the stats posted above:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden...-estimates.htm

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

[NickyC]

Originally Posted by apexit4

Can you show us any reliable documented sources that indicate the coronavirus isnt as bad as it was projected to be? Keep in mind not all projections painted an apocalyptic scenario and each projection made various assumptions.

People like to compare the coronavirus to the common flu, so here's a quick comparison of US statistics:

Flu: 39-56 million infected, 24k-62k deaths. Thats .0006%-.0011% death rate
Coronavirus: 1.9 million infected, 109k dead, .057% death rate

Those percentages may seem small, but anyone with a basic understanding of math can see that the ratio of infected vs dead is much greater with the coronavirus.

According to current statistics, out of the currently resolved cases there is an 11% mortality rate. Essentially 1 in 10 people die from this virus. We shouldnt be dismissing the virus because projected death rates are lower than they were expected but rather thankful that it hasnt been worse. Lets not forget that as a society, plenty of us have done our part in taking protective measures to help curb the spread of the virus. This could very well be one of the reasons the previous projections appear to look overblown.

Out of curiosity, can you link me to some of the projected death rates you've read about in the past?

At the end of the day, you can believe or doubt what you read on the internet about the virus. As is the case with anything on the internet, some if its true, some of its BS, some of its sensationalized, etc, etc, etc. But what you should do is listen to what your local doctors and nurses working in the hospitals are saying. And overwhelmingly, they are saying this is a serious issue not to be taken lightly.

Btw, here are my links to the stats posted above:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden...-estimates.htm

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

No, 1 in 10 people do not “essentially die from this virus”. That’s maximum fear porn bullshit that continues to be parroted by people who don’t understand those are the folks who are so ill they have to present themselves to hospitals. The CDC itself came out with a detailed report last week which showed the overall death rate when considering ALL infections is essentially 0.1%. Of those who have died here in America, roughly 40% have been in nursing homes where folks are 6-12 months from being done in this world regardless. New Jersey deaths included folks where 87% had serious pre-existing conditions. This is all well known and I could go on and on but the data is everywhere now. This is a disease that kills the old, invalid, and those with serious preexisting conditions in huge percentages. If you’re under 45, your chance of death from this is near zero.

Speaking of Doctors, I can give you plenty of examples of them coming out now saying the “cure” to this BS pandemic is far worse than the disease itself. We’ve destroyed the world economy, put 40 million Americans out of work, plunged millions upon millions into depression, ushered in totalitarianism into the world where it never was before, destroyed personal liberties and freedoms, and now we have rioting everywhere here in America and spreading around the world due to the actions taken to combat this BS. George Floyd is a cover, these riots are all due to the action taken due to this “pandemic”.

Never in human history have we quarantined the healthy like this. We should have protected those most vulnerable such as those in nursing homes, rushed to herd immunity, and dealt with pandemics rationally like we’ve in the past.

Nothing about this has been rational. The measures taken were based on now proven inaccurate bullshit models, and forced on people by tyrannical leaders who only care about their own power and nothing else. This isn’t, nor was it ever about saving lives. It’s 100% about control.

This whole thing was a SCAM. It’s barely more deadly than the average flu, and as I’ve stated the overall yearly death figures haven’t budged since this nonsense started. This is complete MSM and social media driven doom porn, I’ve never seen such mind control and irrational thought on a scale like this. It’s absolutely stunning.

[apexit4]

Originally Posted by NickyC

No, 1 in 10 people do not “essentially die from this virus”. That’s maximum fear porn bullshit that continues to be parroted by people who don’t understand those are the folks who are so ill they have to present themselves to hospitals. The CDC itself came out with a detailed report last week which showed the overall death rate when considering ALL infections is essentially 0.1%. Of those who have died here in America, roughly 40% have been in nursing homes where folks are 6-12 months from being done in this world regardless. New Jersey deaths included folks where 87% had serious pre-existing conditions. This is all well known and I could go on and on but the data is everywhere now. This is a disease that kills the old, invalid, and those with serious preexisting conditions in huge percentages. If you’re under 45, your chance if death from this is near zero.

Speaking of Doctors, I can give you plenty of examples of them coming out now saying the “cure” to this BS pandemic is far worse than the disease itself. We’ve destroyed the world economy, put 40 million Americans out of work, plunged millions upon millions into depression, ushered in totalitarianism into the world where it never was before, destroyed personal liberties and freedoms, and now we have rioting everywhere here in America and spreading around the world due to the actions taken to combat this BS. George Floyd is a cover, these riots are all due to the action taken due to this “pandemic”.

Never in human history have we quarantined the healthy like this. We should have protected those most vulnerable such as those in nursing homes, rushed to herd immunity, and dealt with pandemics rationally like we’ve in the past.

Nothing about this has been rational. The measures taken were based on now proven inaccurate bullshit models, and forced on people by tyrannical leaders who only care about their own power and nothing else. This isn’t, nor was it ever about saving lives. It’s 100% about control.

This whole thing was a SCAM. It’s barely more deadly than the average flu, and as I’ve stated the overall yearly death figures haven’t budged since this nonsense started. This is complete MSM and social media driven doom porn, I’ve never seen such mind control and irrational thought on a scale like this. It’s absolutely stunning.

Can you please provide a link to some of those reports you mentioned? I'd like to read over them myself. Same goes for examples of doctor's coming out with contrary information please.

Also, you said "...and forced on people by tyrannical leaders who only care about their own power and nothing else". Are you seriously calling all national leaders tyrannical?

[NickyC]

Originally Posted by apexit4

Can you please provide a link to some of those reports you mentioned? I'd like to read over them myself. Same goes for examples of doctor's coming out with contrary information please.

Also, you said "...and forced on people by tyrannical leaders who only care about their own power and nothing else". Are you seriously calling all national leaders tyrannical?

Sure sorry.

Wrong death toll estimates, would take pages to document a small percentage of the total stories:

https://wjla.com/news/nation-world/e...were-all-wrong

https://www.biznews.com/premium/2020...stimates-wrong

https://www.twincities.com/2020/05/2...-memorial-day/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-experts.html

https://www.heritage.org/public-heal...tify-lockdowns


Here's some with the Docs but there's so many I could post all night:

https://kmph.com/news/nation-world/l...o-end-lockdown

https://www.forbes.com/sites/gracema.../#3697b3d850fa

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...-end-shutdown/

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...e-lockdown-now

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...eeks-YEAR.html

In regards to leaders' response to this, yes, the vast majority were tyrannical. We should have protected the vulnerable and allowed everyone else to continue on with their lives. There are countless examples of these very same leaders not adhering to the same social restraints they placed upon all of us. That is tyranny.

[mk1-fan]

Originally Posted by NickyC

Again, it’s barely a blip compared to other causes of death. This thing has been shown to be far less deadly than we were lied to about. People get sick, people die, that’s life. Move on, the ridiculous response to the Controlavirus has been far more devastating than the virus itself.

Gentleman start your engines.

Exactly. To save a few thousand, hundreds of millions of people must lose their jobs, income, dignity and more. Makes no sense at all.......

[racerbruce]

Originally Posted by mk1-fan

Exactly. To save a few thousand, hundreds of millions of people must lose their jobs, income, dignity and more. Makes no sense at all.......

It is regrettable this thread has been hijacked and no longer discusses this year's F1 schedule.

This discussion needs to occur on the Off-Top-Discussion-Board.

[243Racing]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

"Lewis is not crazy"

#blessed

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by BeastieBombRacing

#blessed

Father Hamilton: "I'd rather not see my son racing during the corona crisis" !
=> https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/60512...a-crisis-.html

[243Racing]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Father Hamilton: "I'd rather not see my son racing during the corona crisis" !
=> https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/60512...a-crisis-.html

I'm not sure it was clear that I was making fun of him.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by BeastieBombRacing

I'm not sure it was clear that I was making fun of him.

Mate . Actually it was not clear . But now it is ....

[M5Rick]

It's within the lockdown rules for dad to see son..family ok. So go ahead Lew dad
Now better get back to the timetable