[2000cs]

Is anyone, anywhere in the USA against this?

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by 2000cs

Is anyone, anywhere in the USA against this?

<=== Raises his hand.

Instead of adjusting the clocks, how about just adjusting your personal daily schedule based on the time of year and leave time be constant?

(This is coming from the person who had to testify before a Grand Jury to explain why my home clocks all run on UTC and not EST/EDT.)

Each school district could change their start/end times based on the season, so that kids don't have to wait for a school bus in the dark. Offices can open at 7:00 AM instead of 8:00 AM, so that workers can spend more time outside in the sun after work during summer hours. LOCAL decisions, based on the sunrise/sunset times in that region.

Daylight savings time is obsolete, and not a one-size-fits-all solution that works everywhere in the country without regional problems. Instead of legislating clock changes for all, change society!

When I'm elected Supreme Allied Commander of the Universe (SACotU).....

[dreamingat30fps]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

<=== Raises his hand.

Instead of adjusting the clocks, how about just adjusting your personal daily schedule based on the time of year and leave time be constant?

(This is coming from the person who had to testify before a Grand Jury to explain why my home clocks all run on UTC and not EST/EDT.)

Each school district could change their start/end times based on the season, so that kids don't have to wait for a school bus in the dark. Offices can open at 7:00 AM instead of 8:00 AM, so that workers can spend more time outside in the sun after work during summer hours. LOCAL decisions, based on the sunrise/sunset times in that region.

Daylight savings time is obsolete, and not a one-size-fits-all solution that works everywhere in the country without regional problems. Instead of legislating clock changes for all, change society!

When I'm elected Supreme Allied Commander of the Universe (SACotU).....

Aren’t they basically proposing to stop adjusting the clocks? See.. it’s exactly what you want!!

[CTinline-six]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

Instead of legislating clock changes for all, change society!

[E92inNC]

I’m in AZ so I only notice the change when the Suns game time changes lol. Moving to NC this summer so this this definitely welcomed

[DrFerry]

It's way, way overdue, but because there maybe some positive health benefits to We The People, and businesses (not to mention air travel) - then such a change will never happen IMO.

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

i like the darkness

[Alfisti]

I don't really care what happens but be aware, somewhere like Toronto/NY etc, sun will not rise until near 9am in mid december, that is very late man.

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by dreamingat30fps

Aren’t they basically proposing to stop adjusting the clocks? See.. it’s exactly what you want!!

Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it, and some of us are old enough to remember what happened the last time that the feds tried to abolish DST.

When DST was suspended for one year in the 1970's, different parts of the country discovered unanticipated side effects that made them quickly reverse the decision. In my case, we all had to carry flashlights on our morning walk to the school bus stop, because there were no street lights in our neighborhood and the winter sun didn't rise until after school started. Other parts of the country had their sun setting before school was recessed, or kids in after-school activities getting home well after dark.

Instead of changing the clocks, let everyone change their daily schedules based on local sun patterns. Other than to honor an old Dolly Parton song, is there a reason why most office workers *need* to be 9-5 all year? Why not shift spring/fall hours to 8-4, which gives you an extra hour of daylight after work without ever having to touch the clocks? Let the local areas decide what they want to do, based on their own regional sunlight preferences/problems.....

[3.0L]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it, and some of us are old enough to remember what happened the last time that the feds tried to abolish DST.

When DST was suspended for one year in the 1970's, different parts of the country discovered unanticipated side effects that made them quickly reverse the decision. In my case, we all had to carry flashlights on our morning walk to the school bus stop, because there were no street lights in our neighborhood and the winter sun didn't rise until after school started. Other parts of the country had their sun setting before school was recessed, or kids in after-school activities getting home well after dark.

Instead of changing the clocks, let everyone change their daily schedules based on local sun patterns. Other than to honor an old Dolly Parton song, is there a reason why most office workers *need* to be 9-5 all year? Why not shift spring/fall hours to 8-4, which gives you an extra hour of daylight after work without ever having to touch the clocks? Let the local areas decide what they want to do, based on their own regional sunlight preferences/problems.....

So what I hear you saying is: Let's keep our clocks on Standard or DST and then adjust school and work hours to suit the time of the year.

In other words, do away with the twice-yearly reset of clocks.

[peelerec]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it, and some of us are old enough to remember what happened the last time that the feds tried to abolish DST.

When DST was suspended for one year in the 1970's, different parts of the country discovered unanticipated side effects that made them quickly reverse the decision. In my case, we all had to carry flashlights on our morning walk to the school bus stop, because there were no street lights in our neighborhood and the winter sun didn't rise until after school started. Other parts of the country had their sun setting before school was recessed, or kids in after-school activities getting home well after dark.

Instead of changing the clocks, let everyone change their daily schedules based on local sun patterns. Other than to honor an old Dolly Parton song, is there a reason why most office workers *need* to be 9-5 all year? Why not shift spring/fall hours to 8-4, which gives you an extra hour of daylight after work without ever having to touch the clocks? Let the local areas decide what they want to do, based on their own regional sunlight preferences/problems.....

I agree with this strategy versus the current proposal to remove DST. It's much more beneficial for society I believe to adjust work hours, office hours, school hours based on whatever season is in.

[rbryantaz]

Originally Posted by 2000cs

Is anyone, anywhere in the USA against this?

I am against it.

I live in Arizona so I don't want to be on DST here because it will mean that it is hotter when I get out of work at 5pm (would be like 4pm is now).

Even though AZ probably will opt out to avoid the above condition it still has one negative thing for me: This means that I will also always have a 3hr time difference form my father on the east coast instead of 2. In that sense standard time always would be better for me.

-Rich

[DETRoadster]

I read that the US temporarily shifted to DST in 1973 and 1974 in response to the energy crisis. People were overwhelmingly in favor of it when it started but it appears that positive polling quickly turned negative and the time change function was brought back in 1975.

Apparently Russia also experimented with getting rid of changing their clocks and abandoned the idea eventually.

[TheWatchGuy]

i vote stick with standard time. it being pitch black in the mornings during winter while im trying to go to work will suck

[rbryantaz]

Originally Posted by DETRoadster

Apparently Russia also experimented with getting rid of changing their clocks and abandoned the idea eventually.

The idea of clocks or changing them?

[TiMSport]

Originally Posted by DETRoadster

Apparently Russia also experimented with getting rid of changing their clocks and abandoned the idea eventually.

Yeah but Russia has 11 time zones. Probably a bit more complicated for them.

Speaking of Russia...... never mind.

[erickonphoenix]

PTL, alcoholics everywhere can stop panicking when the second day of March starts rolling around.

[dreamingat30fps]

Originally Posted by 3.0L

So what I hear you saying is: Let's keep our clocks on Standard or DST and then adjust school and work hours to suit the time of the year.

In other words, do away with the twice-yearly reset of clocks.

Yeah I'm not sure what he's saying. But I'm positive he means keep DST all the time and get the city to put some lights on your street. Now let's get er done before he comes back!!!

[TheWatchGuy]

Originally Posted by 3.0L

So what I hear you saying is: Let's keep our clocks on Standard or DST and then adjust school and work hours to suit the time of the year.

In other words, do away with the twice-yearly reset of clocks.

if we shifted work hours and everything else around the sun, why not just keep resetting clocks instead?

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

i like the darkness

Me too.

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by TheWatchGuy

if we shifted work hours and everything else around the sun, why not just keep resetting clocks instead?

Because there is no correct legislation that works for every longitude when you legislate a fixed clock. Someone is going to be waking up in the dark at 9:00 AM in winter, and someone else is going to be unhappy in the summer walking out of work in the afternoon when its 125 F. If you leave the clocks alone and shift your hours, each locale can decide what works for them and still have a coordinated time reference.

Don't change the clocks, change people's schedules for what works best in a given region!

Think back to the 1800's, when people didn't have accurate clocks or cell phones reminding them of the time. They made their own schedule, not based on reading a clock but rather when it was light outside so they could do their chores. This whole time zone thing is a result of railroads trying to make schedules based on a standard time and not solar noon times for the country, and was a compromise since day one.....

[ezaircon4jc]

Isn't this a state and not federal issue? Which is why Hawai'i and Arizona can refuse to participate.