Why doesn't BMW have a halo car?

TheBingoBalls · 01-02-2023, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyga11

I actually think a halo car would do wonders for the brand...the BMW brand has gotten stale IMO.

The only new excitement is arguably the M4 CSL which is turning into a huge flop. Not a flop - but those cars are going under sticker now (like the GTS)

So, I do think a halo would energize BMW

What and who you're thinking of is the car and BMW enthusiast. To the general public, BMW is as popular as it ever was and despite all the commentary on the new designs, it has people talking. From a public perception, BMW does not have a problem and is far from stale.

Would it be cool to see BMW come out with an actual halo car like the M1? Sure, but it's easy to see why they don't have that in the plans and why it's ok to not have one - because they don't despite what people say here on the forums.

And honest question, if BMW did come out with a "real" M car as a halo (based on what you've seen with the XM, CSL, 3.0L), would anyone buy if it carried a price tag of $150,000+? Or would we all sit here and say well I could buy a Porsche/AMG/R8, etc.?

Tejas1836 · 01-02-2023, 10:13 PM

The i7 will be the Halo car

RichF90M5C · 01-03-2023, 12:41 PM

They already have a halo car. It’s called a Rolls Royce.

Efthreeoh · 01-04-2023, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Burrcold

BMW's halo car is moving on and buying a Porsche.

Good answer.

Tethys · 01-05-2023, 09:46 AM

M8 Competition maybe?

Burrcold · 01-05-2023, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Tethys

M8 Competition maybe?

It's a nice car, but a halo car needs to be something unmistakable by even non-enthusiasts as being special...something that turns every head, something kids would have as a Hotwheels toy. The M8 would drive right by most people and they would think it's a 4 series coupe (again, obviously not to an enthusiast).

Tethys · 01-05-2023, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Burrcold

It's a nice car, but a halo car needs to be something unmistakable by even non-enthusiasts as being special...something that turns every head, something kids would have as a Hotwheels toy. The M8 would drive right by most people and they would think it's a 4 series coupe (again, obviously not to an enthusiast).

I understand what you are saying and I agree BMW really doesn't have a halo car but the M8C is as close to one as they have. I get compliments on mine all the time and no one thinks it's just a regular BMW or a 4 series. I do wish however they would have been a little more exotic on the styling though.

Burrcold · 01-05-2023, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Tethys

I understand what you are saying and I agree BMW really doesn't have a halo car but the M8C is as close to one as they have. I get compliments on mine all the time and no one thinks it's just a regular BMW or a 4 series. I do wish however they would have been a little more exotic on the styling though.

I'm not saying that it's not going to get compliments or looks, but what makes it halo car special? The engine? Not really. The looks? Not really. Is some kid going to have a poster of this on his wall? Probably not. If my wife saw an M8 or an M4 the only thing she would comment on was why one had a huge ugly grill and the other doesn't...otherwise she wouldn't be thinking "wow BMW really outdid themselves on this model".

Tethys · 01-05-2023, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Burrcold

I'm not saying that it's not going to get compliments or looks, but what makes it halo car special? The engine? Not really. The looks? Not really. Is some kid going to have a poster of this on his wall? Probably not. If my wife saw an M8 or an M4 the only thing she would comment on was why one had a huge ugly grill and the other doesn't...otherwise she wouldn't be thinking "wow BMW really outdid themselves on this model".

That is understandable and I like I said I agree I wish they would have gone more exotic with the appearance but I also understand wanting to make it look like a BMW because that is what they do. Going by that though my wife would look at a Bugatti and not know it's more expensive or anything better than a Kia, lol.

Tejas1836 · 01-05-2023, 12:34 PM

BMW Halo car in 2 years- Dee

Forzanerazzurri · 01-05-2023, 12:51 PM

BMW isn't the brand you think it is. Its recent success comes from them turning the company into the German Toyota, vastly expanding their lineup and selling SUVs literally by the boat load. BMW has how many different models and configurations now? They clearly don't see a benefit in having a halo/supercar. They are a mainstream volume brand with a performance division that has become a bit of an afterthought.

Tyga11 · 01-05-2023, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Burrcold

I'm not saying that it's not going to get compliments or looks, but what makes it halo car special? The engine? Not really. The looks? Not really. Is some kid going to have a poster of this on his wall? Probably not. If my wife saw an M8 or an M4 the only thing she would comment on was why one had a huge ugly grill and the other doesn't...otherwise she wouldn't be thinking "wow BMW really outdid themselves on this model".

Can you please exit my thread? All you do is trash the M4. You literally drive the most boring performance car in existence

Forzanerazzurri · 01-05-2023, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyga11

Can you please exit my thread? All you do is trash the M4. You literally drive the most boring performance car in existence

HAHA.

Forzanerazzurri · 01-05-2023, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Burrcold

I'm not saying that it's not going to get compliments or looks, but what makes it halo car special? The engine? Not really. The looks? Not really. Is some kid going to have a poster of this on his wall? Probably not. If my wife saw an M8 or an M4 the only thing she would comment on was why one had a huge ugly grill and the other doesn't...otherwise she wouldn't be thinking "wow BMW really outdid themselves on this model".

Imagine shitposting about an M car on a BMW forum while driving an understeering VW product from the German luxury brand everyone forgets about.

NYG · 01-05-2023, 02:19 PM

The i8 was literally the reverse halo car... It was BMW's Maserati Ghibli - terrible car in every single metric marketed to people who thought even at -30k under sticker that it was an "exotic" or a status car. The F8x was an Aventador compared to it.

Tyga11 · 01-05-2023, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NYG

The i8 was literally the reverse halo car... It was BMW's Maserati Ghibli - terrible car in every single metric marketed to people who thought even at -30k under sticker that it was an "exotic" or a status car. The F8x was an Aventador compared to it.

That is true but it's still one of the most beautiful cars in existence today...it still turns heads. Agreed on the performance aspect and the interior sucked also.

NYG · 01-05-2023, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyga11

That is true but it's still one of the most beautiful cars in existence today...it still turns heads. Agreed on the performance aspect and the interior sucked also.

I think it's hideous. It's one of those designs that ages so poorly, which is weird because BMW has a history of timeless designs. Only BMW and Porsche knew how to make a car look good for decades.

Burrcold · 01-05-2023, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyga11

Can you please exit my thread? All you do is trash the M4. You literally drive the most boring performance car in existence

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Originally Posted by Forzanerazzurri

Imagine shitposting about an M car on a BMW forum while driving an understeering VW product from the German luxury brand everyone forgets about.

Oh no did I hurt your vaginas? The M4 is ugly, sorry (my opinion of course). Love how you owners are so quick to jump on anyone that has an opinion on the looks of your car.

Forzanerazzurri · 01-05-2023, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Burrcold

Oh no did I hurt your vaginas? The M4 is ugly, sorry (my opinion of course). Love how you owners are so quick to jump on anyone that has an option on the looks of your car.

I don't really care what your opinion on the aesthetics of the car is. I was mocking you for the the fact that you are wasting your time on an online forum for a car/brand that you don't even own. I mean even you can you can see how lame that is... right?

Tyga11 · 01-05-2023, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Burrcold

Oh no did I hurt your vaginas? The M4 is ugly, sorry (my opinion of course). Love how you owners are so quick to jump on anyone that has an opinion on the looks of your car.

Congrats - you've managed to derail this thread with your 'opinion' which isn't even related to the thread. Good job champ

Tyga11 · 01-05-2023, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Forzanerazzurri

I don't really care what your opinion on the aesthetics of the car is. I was mocking you for the the fact that you are wasting your time on an online forum for a car/brand that you don't even own. I mean even you can you can see how lame that is... right?

He is one of the 10 people in the entire world who has bought a new RS5. There is a reason they are heavily discounted. They are practically giving them away.

When I test drove an RS5 a couple of months ago, the dealer was begging me to take the car because they knew they had no shot of selling it.

Burrcold · 01-05-2023, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyga11

Congrats - you've managed to derail this thread with your 'opinion' which isn't even related to the thread. Good job champ

I didn't derail anything. I was talking about halo cars and you two morons decided to "come at me bro" because I said your grill was ugly.

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