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      03-18-2009, 10:00 PM   #23
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It's not surprising. A long time ago I heard another guy saying the same thing. He was a Christian and said that he didn't believe in dinosaurs. I told him exactly what you guys have stated (about fossils, etc.) but he wouldn't budge. What I've come to realize is that some people are hardcore believers and thus it's almost impossible to change their beliefs. So to each his/her own. While I don't agree with them, I don't really care about it that much as long as those beliefs are somewhat acceptable (i.e. beliefs about killing others or harming others don't make any sense to me).

Also, some people refuse to believe in other things because they're afraid. It's kinda similar to how we believed in such things as the tooth fairy and santa claus as little kids. I bet for some of us it was very disappointing to find out that it was our parents that put the money under the pillow and the presents under the trees. So to say that there are things that could alter the beliefs of Christianity is about a million times the magnitude of what I mentioned above. I mean what are they going to believe in then?
I never believed in Santa nor the tooth fairy...never got any money from my stupid teeth falling off...you guys are lucky.
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I never believed in Santa nor the tooth fairy...never got any money from my stupid teeth falling off...you guys are lucky.
yet you live in the north pole. niiiiice
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^^

Just because I'm in North pole and i never see Santa, I know it's bullshit.
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lol, I wonder if anyone took my post seriously?

If you did, then maybe dinosaurs aren't real

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She said she was Christian and since it wasn't in the Bible she didn't believe in it. .
for me, this is when all discussion comes to and end. these people are mentally deficient.
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I was having a discussion with someone at work today and I heard something that I hadn't up to this point: Dinosaurs aren't real? I literally was confused for a minute. She said she was Christian and since it wasn't in the Bible she didn't believe in it.

I don't want to start a flame war but a lot of my friends are Christian and believe dinosaurs existed. Like I said she's the first person I've met who said this so i don't necessarily think it's a religion thing. It's said God created the world in 6 days, who's to say he didn't destroy something in that time as well? Does anyone else not believe they existed? This seriously baffles me.

Discuss.
Ask her if, computers, cars, planes etc etc were mentioned in the bible? Does she believe in them?
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Mainstream denominations should be fighting back against this use of the word “Christian” to describe fundamentalists. The next time I hear someone describe themselves as “Christian” I am going to say “Hey – so is Bishop Robinson!”

But to the question at hand -- I watched this play out at the Episcopal Church that my family attends. The Rector was explaining the Church’s position on evolution during an adult forum (like all the mainstream Christian denominations the church recognizes science, the reality of a 4 billion year old earth and so on). A woman announced that she “needs certainty”, and shortly thereafter moved her family to the local young earth fundamentalist church.

Fundamentalism provides a black and white world view without ambiguity. Science of course does not, being a messy collection of hypothesis and theory that is always subject to change. And some people want “certainty” like a child wants his blanket.

Thinking is hard. Fundamentalism is easy.
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Great thread. Please join my other two on the subject.


http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=243202 - Do you believe in God (Dinosaurs Pt. 2)

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=243625 - Reconciling Evolution and Creation (Dinosaurs, Pt. 3)
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lol....youre telling me land before time wasnt a documentary?


noooooooo


lolz...oh christians
I freaking loved those as a kid!
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But to the question at hand -- I watched this play out at the Episcopal Church that my family attends. The Rector was explaining the Church’s position on evolution during an adult forum (like all the mainstream Christian denominations the church recognizes science, the reality of a 4 billion year old earth and so on). A woman announced that she “needs certainty”, and shortly thereafter moved her family to the local young earth fundamentalist church.

Thinking is hard. Fundamentalism is easy.
From my other thread (http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...=1#post4753945 )

Yes, Jews and many Christians alike believe that the current earth as we know it is less than 6000 years old. Before you choke on your own laughter, understand the qualifying passage. This is the suggested age of the earth since Adam and Eve, the first humans on earth who had the "breath of life" given to them by God (Genesis 2:7, KJV ). The cool thing to see- whether you are a believer in God or not- is that there were others before them!

And, it is all right there in the Book of Genesis. The VAST majority of Christians and Jews have never read Genesis 1 and 2 "correctly". For an exercise, go read these two short Books and make note of the details and the differences in the timing of things. The order of the two creations in Genesis 1 and 2 are opposite. In Genesis 1, man is created last and God does not breathe "the breath of life" into him. God does not do this until the creation story in Book 2, in which man is created first, followed by the creation of the garden and the animals. Many look at Genesis 2 as a "retelling" of the creation story but it is not...the order is completely different. It is a separate creation.

So now how do we reconcile the fact that they have now found hominid (man-like) foot prints in the same fossil layers as dinosaurs??? How do we talk about "cavemen" and Creation in the same sentence? Many Christians believe in dinosaurs but get all out of whack when the discussion turns to Neanderthal or Australopithecus robustus. But, more and more theologians are accepting the idea that there was more than one creation and that the fossil records are completely in keeping with the Biblical account- the latter simply being incomplete, not "incorrect".

Soooooo, how old is the earth again??? It can be millions and millions of years old, just as scientists say. There is nothing in the Bible that contradicts this. However, some creation scientists believe that many of the fossils discovered are not as old as our past and current carbon dating methods suggest, citing the fact that carbon is decaying faster now than it was back in the days of the dinosaurs and the firmament that surrounded the earth before it was destroyed by the asteroid that hit the earth (in the Gulf of Mexico), shifting the earth's axis about 33 degrees, and wiping out the dinosaurs. (Check what's known about this.)

Why God would do this is a very interesting discussion but if we can't get past this first part, there is no need to even go there.

PS. You're right about thinking. But when you get used to doing it, it actually becomes a lot of fun.
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