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I think your co-worker is quite possibly insane.
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Mainstream denominations should be fighting back against this use of the word “Christian” to describe fundamentalists. The next time I hear someone describe themselves as “Christian” I am going to say “Hey – so is Bishop Robinson!”
But to the question at hand -- I watched this play out at the Episcopal Church that my family attends. The Rector was explaining the Church’s position on evolution during an adult forum (like all the mainstream Christian denominations the church recognizes science, the reality of a 4 billion year old earth and so on). A woman announced that she “needs certainty”, and shortly thereafter moved her family to the local young earth fundamentalist church. Fundamentalism provides a black and white world view without ambiguity. Science of course does not, being a messy collection of hypothesis and theory that is always subject to change. And some people want “certainty” like a child wants his blanket. Thinking is hard. Fundamentalism is easy. |
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Great thread. Please join my other two on the subject.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=243202 - Do you believe in God (Dinosaurs Pt. 2) http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=243625 - Reconciling Evolution and Creation (Dinosaurs, Pt. 3) |
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Yes, Jews and many Christians alike believe that the current earth as we know it is less than 6000 years old. Before you choke on your own laughter, understand the qualifying passage. This is the suggested age of the earth since Adam and Eve, the first humans on earth who had the "breath of life" given to them by God (Genesis 2:7, KJV ). The cool thing to see- whether you are a believer in God or not- is that there were others before them! And, it is all right there in the Book of Genesis. The VAST majority of Christians and Jews have never read Genesis 1 and 2 "correctly". For an exercise, go read these two short Books and make note of the details and the differences in the timing of things. The order of the two creations in Genesis 1 and 2 are opposite. In Genesis 1, man is created last and God does not breathe "the breath of life" into him. God does not do this until the creation story in Book 2, in which man is created first, followed by the creation of the garden and the animals. Many look at Genesis 2 as a "retelling" of the creation story but it is not...the order is completely different. It is a separate creation. So now how do we reconcile the fact that they have now found hominid (man-like) foot prints in the same fossil layers as dinosaurs??? How do we talk about "cavemen" and Creation in the same sentence? Many Christians believe in dinosaurs but get all out of whack when the discussion turns to Neanderthal or Australopithecus robustus. But, more and more theologians are accepting the idea that there was more than one creation and that the fossil records are completely in keeping with the Biblical account- the latter simply being incomplete, not "incorrect". Soooooo, how old is the earth again??? It can be millions and millions of years old, just as scientists say. There is nothing in the Bible that contradicts this. However, some creation scientists believe that many of the fossils discovered are not as old as our past and current carbon dating methods suggest, citing the fact that carbon is decaying faster now than it was back in the days of the dinosaurs and the firmament that surrounded the earth before it was destroyed by the asteroid that hit the earth (in the Gulf of Mexico), shifting the earth's axis about 33 degrees, and wiping out the dinosaurs. (Check what's known about this.) Why God would do this is a very interesting discussion but if we can't get past this first part, there is no need to even go there. PS. You're right about thinking. But when you get used to doing it, it actually becomes a lot of fun. |
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