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Wow, its getting crazy in the automotive world..... But all those in favor of an E-92 M3 CSL, say "!I!"
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09-24-2009, 03:30 PM | #28 |
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Give BMW a chance, M is definitely evolving and big changes are coming, but because fuel economy will be a priority so will low weight, that is actually the cheapest way to make a high performance vehicle economical, look at the Vette, crude as its technology may be and as large and inefficient as its engines may be, there isn't one M car even close to the gas mileage it gets, yet it gives up nothing in peformance to even the most powerful of the M's.
I think BMW will surprise us all. I do think that the M divisions new president is a little flakey but remember that M has always been driven by its engineers. |
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09-24-2009, 04:01 PM | #30 |
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That article oozes out the same moral:
"Efficient Dynamics" is out to eat the "M". BMW is letting "Efficient Dynamics" prevail and turn M into "marketing" of "Efficient Dynamics". I do not see much difference between BMW's "Efficient Dynamics" and Toyota's "Hybrid Synergy" program.
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I read somewhere once that the next one series will be more of a E30 M3 revision then the current model. And Judging by how much the 1 series sells and how many people like it. I think if the made it with a true e30 styled widebody and such, it would sell like crazy. I know I'd be interested. But the problem with the current 1 series isnt performance for me, its just not pretty or widebodied or anything but a 1 series coupe. Nothing to set it into a icon class car such as an e30 M3 or the M3 CSL. That dude mentioned cars getting lighter and more efficient. Well I think a remake of an e30 M3 with a twin turbo 4 engine would be just the "eco-M-car" they would need.... when things get messy, Start from the beginning. Get slightly smaller and lighter and raw drivers sportscar.
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They are doing a perfect job. They just made me prepare to sell my M5 and move into and X5 ///M for the winter.
They have so far not come close to disappointing...
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This single interview speaks volumes about where the M division is going, nowhere. Did a single line anywhere in that interview excite you? No Did the fact that the M cars were shunned out of the BMW limelight concern you, it should. The BMW 3 series is their bread and butter and if all they can do is sell CO2 emissions and some BS marketing concept car, you better be concerned. The M division is done. Put a fork in it. Buy an M3 now because the next car will have an M button that will turn on another set of hamsters and that is it. Seriously this new head guy is a joke. If the US is the prime market for the M cars they could have found a real car enthusiast with some passion and excitement. The next M will be a bigger Mini Pooper S Like I said a depressing interview. Never read so much marketing bs and not a stitch of excitement or soul. That is what the M Division is supposed to be. |
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(I'm sticking to my "don't worry/waste time on what is M " philosophy--I'm just taking a sarcastic/humorous approach to it at this point.) |
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09-24-2009, 08:42 PM | #38 |
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for a guy who has been a bmw fanboy since the movie License to Drive, I got my first e36 M3 at 17, my next car, at 21 the e46 M3, an at 27 the m3 e92, so yeah, all I've driven are M cars, 2 times at M School in Spartanburg, so yeah, for me the sky is falling, next car gt3
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09-25-2009, 12:29 AM | #41 |
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Here I thought I am going to read an article that eases my qualm of the new direction BMW has taken. The niche car builder who built awesome and terrific driver's car is a thing of the past and this interview further solidifies. The new M division head is a marketing guy with no engineering experience or racing background. (Based from the article, correct me if I am wrong) Someone who is excited about the M6 and worrying over brand image from monetizing the M brand for accessories. Well he is marketing after all.
It appears my next vehicle will come from Lotus or Porsche. BMW can stress over efficient dynamics and build car for the masses. I will reconsider when BMW decides to build cars that are 90% sports car and 10% efficient dynamic. Being green is a imperative, the minimum, not something to parade about. |
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09-25-2009, 12:33 AM | #42 |
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From what i read in this "interview", you can see its all about selling more cars.
Using vague and adjective laden phrases and not answering questions directly. This guy is an abosolute Joke, Its all about money and Mass Production M is suppose to be about the joy of driving and the thrill of power, speed, and handling. They are going to kill the M division slowly, so that some Fat Ass can drive an M car to 10% of its potential, in the sake of selling more cars Wow, what a kill, Hopefully i am wrong
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It was quite obvious when company's slogan changes from Ultimate Driving Machine to Efficient Dynamics. Major change always follows a slogan change. Probably the most single important thing inside and outside of a company.
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