[BTM]

Originally Posted by ragingclue

+1

Good point. I deeply regret not doing an internship. Of course, by the time I figured out what my major was really gonna be, it was a little late for that. Live and learn.

[Wakka]

best way to get a job is know someone in the industry. seriously. otherwise have a really outstanding resume.

[KingOfJericho]

Did you try looking for a temp to perm position? Even a temp position can work very well. Anything to get in the door and prove yourself. That's how I landed my gig when I graduated.

[lopealle]

Never been to college, but these days it's about who you know not what you know.

[Freakazoid]

Originally Posted by lopealle

Never been to college, but these days it's about who you know not what you know.

100000000000000000000%

what you know is jack shit....unfortunately

[BTM]

Originally Posted by Freakazoid

100000000000000000000%

what you know is jack shit....unfortunately

Sad but true. I know of history majors getting jobs in finance (and not like in HR at finance firms). This isn't to say they aren't performing, but all thing equal...they knew someone the hundreds or thousands of business major applicants didn't

[Georgeair]

I am curious - what job did you expect to start out at with that degree combination? And do you actually have a triple major, or just one with some other "interests"? I have to admit, if I had three Finance degrees sitting on my desk and one of them spent 7 years in school and a variety of other degrees, I'd focus on the other two, all else being equal.

I had some friends majoring in Finance and they could never narrow down what exactly they expected to do either, this 24 years ago. I ribbed them that Finance was simply a sign they couldn't hack Accounting but wanted to stay in their fraternity on their parent's dime.

Best of luck, but it's a tough time out there for fields that aren't VERY specific, and in need.

[Wakka]

Originally Posted by Georgeair

I am curious - what job did you expect to start out at with that degree combination? And do you actually have a triple major, or just one with some other "interests"? I have to admit, if I had three Finance degrees sitting on my desk and one of them spent 7 years in school and a variety of other degrees, I'd focus on the other two, all else being equal.

I had some friends majoring in Finance and they could never narrow down what exactly they expected to do either, this 24 years ago. I ribbed them that Finance was simply a sign they couldn't hack Accounting but wanted to stay in their fraternity on their parent's dime.

Best of luck, but it's a tough time out there for fields that aren't VERY specific, and in need.

I was just thinking about that... if you have 3 degrees i find it really hard that no one even is interested in interviewing you...?

Is your resume complete shit or what?

[Freakazoid]

Originally Posted by Wakka

I was just thinking about that... if you have 3 degrees i find it really hard that no one even is interested in interviewing you...?

Is your resume complete shit or what?

from my personal experience, graduating with honors speaks a lot more than 3 degrees.

no honors, no networking, and no job experience won't get you in to too many interviews, unfortunately.

[Wakka]

Originally Posted by Freakazoid

from my personal experience, graduating with honors speaks a lot more than 3 degrees.

no honors, no networking, and no job experience won't get you in to too many interviews, unfortunately.

Thats true but i also think it depends on the degrees.

I feel like an engineer with an MBA, or a masters in kinematics would be more desirable then a eco/fi major that got honors.

[Freakazoid]

Originally Posted by Wakka

Thats true but i also think it depends on the degrees.

I feel like an engineer with an MBA, or a masters in kinematics would be more desirable then a eco/fi major that got honors.

good point, my assumption is these are all bachelor's. but you're right, an MBA would speak VERY well

[ac1208]

Originally Posted by Wakka

Thats true but i also think it depends on the degrees.

I feel like an engineer with an MBA, or a masters in kinematics would be more desirable then a eco/fi major that got honors.

You need work experience to get an MBA. Of course an MBA (with work experience) > undergrad w/ honors (and no experience)

[Watwood]

It's been said already, but experience is the key.

[Quick6EF]

Job fair at school to land my first job

Its all who u know MAN

[Maestro]

First and foremost, if you think you will get a job going down the normal channels in this market it could take you a long time, you need to think outside the box and just not submit your resume to job boards and such.

Find out who is hiring and find who is the hiring manager, once you know who this person is find a way to get in front of them and make yourself stand out. People like to hire people who go the extra mile.

Next, you need to get any kind of job, even something that my not be exactly what you want to do. Being out of school this long without a job tell a prospective employer you are not a go getter. They will probably thing your lazy. Even when I was laid off once I still found work to do, and made sure when I talked to companies I made it clear I was busy doing things to make money, I did not stand around and wait for the perfect job.

Now I do not recommend people to do this but it worked for me for my first job, I applied a job at a well known "fruit" computer company and got turned down flat out, I turned around and wrote a letter to the company and explained why that was a mistake. I say who ever reviewed my resume obviously made a mistake and did not know what they were doing, since I had experience directly applicable to their job posting. I explained I would be an asset to their company...

Well I got a response immediately, still saying not interested, but a month later I got a call asking to come in for an interview, they had set up some interviews with a number of department and they all had the in your face letter and thought it was gutsy of me so they want to meet me in person. Well I got a job out it.

You need to set yourself apart from everyone else, there are plenty of people who are just look for a pay check, you can not be one of those.

[MCS]

Just adding some of my thoughts:

I got a job at Anderson Consulting/Accenture with a genral degree in Economics from a decent school (top 15 ranking).

Did it the hard way - sent resumes, waited, and returned phone calls.

My Wife - (met her at AC) got a job at Goldman Sachs after 2 years with AC. She has a degree in Political Science and Education. She graduated with honors from a highly regarded state school. When she go the job at GS, we sort of laughed b/c she's not that good at Math...

Nevertheless, she hooked up with the right team/boss and got promoted quickly.

Bottom line - Its not necessarily who you know or what you studied in school.

Guidance/ My 2 cents worth of advice:

To land a job - plug away at all job opportunities, networks, and possible offers. Consistent followup helps your chance of landing something.

When you get a job, Make sure you have a boss that will "Sponsor you and your work" and stick out his or her neck for you. This will advance you and your career

If you get a sense that they are no longer sponsoring you, time to leave in the next 6-12 months...


Sidenote/background:

My wife and I are both 2nd generation immigrants (our parents immigrated to the country) so we did not have the full network of landing/getting jobs. Now that we're in, and have kids, we're both thinking of fully using our networks for our kids future

[Maestro]

Originally Posted by MCS

My Wife - (met her at AC) got a job at Goldman Sachs after 2 years with AC. She has a degree in Political Science and Education. She graduated with honors from a highly regarded state school. When she go the job at GS, we sort of laughed b/c she's not that good at Math...

Nevertheless, she hooked up with the right team/boss and got promoted quickly.

I am sorry, I could not help myself....

Now you all know why Goldman Sach is a mess there days and most of Wall Street is a mess, they hire people who do not know math.

[BimmerPod]

I did an internship back when I was an undergrad. Was at a top finance company, pretty decent resume stuffer, or so I thought. When I graduated, instead of taking an entry level job with company I interned for, I decided to go traveling with my gf at the time. Dumb. But then again, the job market/economy was much stronger back then.

The job I ended up getting (still there), didn't give two shits about my internship (if they did, they never asked nor commented on it).

Point is, don't worry too much about internships, experience, etc. Focus on getting your foot in the door. Don't worry about the other stuff, because you could have a kick ass resume, 1000 years of relevant experience, but if you don't get anyone to look at you, it's wasted.

network. network. and more network. family, friends, previous jobs, whatever. good luck.

[Blake]

it's not about the grades you make, but the hands you shake. the old adage never fails.

[MCS]

Originally Posted by Maestro

I am sorry, I could not help myself....

Now you all know why Goldman Sach is a mess there days and most of Wall Street is a mess, they hire people who do not know math.

Nice semi-political statement,

I think Goldman and Wall Street is actually doing just fine. With the bailouts, they were able to get along and repay back the Tarp money + interest. The economic fallout was due to a number of factors, and yes, Wall Street may of exacerbated the problems, bu the issues were already there to begin with and imbedded in the real estate bubble.

Having said that, my wife is doing fine, she left GS 3 years ago (before the economic doom and gloom and is now on the buy side) Her math skills has improved, and she's actually better at Excel than I am...

[Tondtar]

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[Verbiage]

Whoring?