US begins military strikes in Libya

ghosthi32 · 03-20-2011, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by tag824

If we don't do anything we get portrait as letting a massacre happen. If we get involved they simply blame us. Damned if you do/don't. That's why Obama said we'd only do air strikes and not any ground effort. Kind of the middle ground and distance ourselves from looking like we're leading this effort. But at the end of the day you all know whats the #1 country in the world. If you don't believe that ask yourself, would I be happier somewhere else? If you answered yes, please gtfo NAO!

USA USA!!!

hey tag

Blake · 03-20-2011, 01:23 AM

soorena what did you do today? mix any chemicals?

ghosthi32 · 03-20-2011, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Blake

soorena what did you do today? mix any chemicals?

nah, just got threatened to be 4chan'd by some scrub from unt. lol

Blake · 03-20-2011, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ghosthi32

nah, just got threatened to be 4chan'd by some scrub from unt. lol

did you tell him CSB?

ghosthi32 · 03-20-2011, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Blake

did you tell him CSB?

he got mad cause i told him wear a vagina costume and i posted a pic of one. lol

Blake · 03-20-2011, 02:19 AM

and what would 4chan do exactly? they're not his personal army.

ghosthi32 · 03-20-2011, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Blake

and what would 4chan do exactly? they're not his personal army.

he is some no life ****** from unt. fucking hipster

AngelinIsRich08 · 03-20-2011, 02:24 AM

I've never been an Obama fan but at least now he's not making the US seem weak. I'm very surprised he's involving us here when in Iran two years ago there were many valid protests against the Iranian dictator Ahmadinejad and Obama did nothing. But after Egypt many other countries such as libya will do this. Iran will be next followed by the Emirates.

Tag · 03-20-2011, 02:29 AM

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hey tag

Saintor · 03-20-2011, 11:11 AM

Obama should return his Nobel prize. War is not a way to make peace. He should have never listened to the new little France's Napoleon.

AngelinIsRich08 · 03-20-2011, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Saintor

Obama should return his Nobel prize. War is not a way to make peace. He should have never listened to the new little France's Napoleon.

Why did he even get a Nobel Prize in the first place.

bosstones · 03-20-2011, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SchlauCow

The American involvement will now increase business development in some defense contracting agencies.

I agree w/ most of your other statements, but what sort of business development do you see coming out of this? Unless this starts escalating more, I see little more than bumping up POs for armaments.

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Originally Posted by Crimson92

I don't get. Everyone hates the US meddling in others' business and yet they ask for more. WTF.

That is the BDSM side of international politics.

The African Union is crying foul over foreign involvement in this yet they didn't make much noise over some of the other more atrocious or just as worthy things that have happened in their realm (e.g. Darfur, Somali pirates, etc...).

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Originally Posted by Chenry135

OMG, exactly the words that came out of my mouth!

Sadly, this isn't the only thing. None of it really gets any press, though.

GregTheStig · 03-20-2011, 12:13 PM

I think some of you are forgetting that France struck first. One of their jets blew up a truck or something and then we blew the shit out of their air defense (possibly?). What also makes this different from Iraq and what Bush did is that Obama sent Clinton to talk with the Arab League and they told her/us that they want Gaddafi out, and the UN seems to feel the same way. Also when he calls the entire population of Benghazi (I think) traitors, and he's determined to put down any rebellion with military force, that's millions of people he's probably going to kill in that city alone. The fact that the US isn't deploying ground troops (and I think UK and France won't either, at least right now) suggests that they possibly know something we don't, and maybe we're just there to support the rebels by taking out Gaddafi's artillery so they can overthrow Gaddafi themselves. Bush just started a war with false intelligence and before he thought things through with other nations. Sometimes I'm critical of Obama too, and I wish we didn't try to be the world police, but as far as I can tell he isn't doing what Bush is doing.

p.s. Now Italy is sending jets to Libya.

GregTheStig · 03-20-2011, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Saintor

Obama should return his Nobel prize. War is not a way to make peace. He should have never listened to the new little France's Napoleon.

In this case he's helping to put down a leader who's threatening to kill millions of his own people. I don't think it's worth returning the Nobel prize over.

Tag · 03-20-2011, 12:27 PM

Don't be fooled, the Arab League is a joke. They beg us to help them then they turn around and blame us because they are pussies that won't do anything themselves to protect their own people and stabilize their region. They would rather have foreigners foot the bill and risk their lives. They are a bunch of hypocritical assholes.

See what I mean...

"Military officials are said to be assessing the damage after at least 110 missiles were fired by the US and UK.

After an attack by French planes, some 14 bodies were lying near destroyed military vehicles outside the rebel-held city of Benghazi, Reuters says.

The head of the Arab League has criticised the bombardments.

His comments are significant because the Arab League's support for the no-fly zone was a key factor in getting UN Security Council backing for the resolution authorising the move.

"What is happening in Libya differs from the aim of imposing a no-fly zone, and what we want is the protection of civilians and not the bombardment of more civilians," said Arab League Secretary General Amr Moussa.

BBC state department correspondent Kim Ghattas says if no Arab states participate in the no-fly zone, and there is criticism from the Arab world, the US could decide to pull out. The UK and France had also been told the Arabs would participate, she adds."

Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12798568

BMWinNorthdakota · 03-20-2011, 12:38 PM

If this was bush, the presi and all his lil cabinet buddies would be getting flamed hard by the media.

Just heard this watching headline news: "Both Dems, reps, and inds have come together and agreed they are all doing the right thing"

Do you honestly think that would be the case if it was the right winger layin the hammer down?

Why the hell do we care? Someone please enlighten me.

Wheres our interest in Libya, besides the fact that we are America and we are practically expected to invade any threat to democracy/anything that isnt consistent with our governing ideals and morals. Why are we always this "Humanitarian Big Brother", It fucking pisses me off. People are being slaughtered by governmental entities all over the world.. Better go fuck w/ their shit too.

Oh, and like this shit is free? Lets piss some more money away, YEAH!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by gbreeE90

Im pretty sure 90% of the world hates America at this point. We get in everyone's business.

Yeah no shit. Gettin' up in ery bodddies busnaass I tell ya

This kind sir brings everything full circle for me.

/end rant

chungdae · 03-20-2011, 12:55 PM

Here we go again; higher taxes for us.

AngelinIsRich08 · 03-20-2011, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by chungdae

Here we go again; higher taxes for us.

I hate taxes. And high gas prices. Lol.

GregTheStig · 03-20-2011, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tag824

BBC state department correspondent Kim Ghattas says if no Arab states participate in the no-fly zone, and there is criticism from the Arab world, the US could decide to pull out. The UK and France had also been told the Arabs would participate, she adds."

Good points, but read this.

Four Qatari war planes were deployed in Libyan skies on Sunday, the French defense ministry said, as other Arab warplanes were moving to positions near Libya to participate in the Western military operation that has effectively established a no-fly zone.

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Meanwhile, aircraft from the United Arab Emirates were due to arrive Sunday at the Decimomannu air force base on the Italian island of Sardinia, which is already hosting four Spanish F-18 fighter jets that arrived on Saturday.

So far it seems that the Arab League is keeping their promise.... so far.

From - http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/20...20/142258.html

CantDrv55 · 03-20-2011, 02:00 PM

Wakka · 03-20-2011, 02:03 PM

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that made my day

WilliamE92 · 03-20-2011, 02:16 PM

The only thing i can say about Libya is that AT LEAST Europe is willingly involved in it. When France goes to war, theres a damn good reason. We won't take as big of a hit to our world image if our involvement goes south later down the road.

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GregTheStig derp 51 Rep 1,203 Posts Drives: a Tuk Tuk Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (1)	I think some of you are forgetting that France struck first. One of their jets blew up a truck or something and then we blew the shit out of their air defense (possibly?). What also makes this different from Iraq and what Bush did is that Obama sent Clinton to talk with the Arab League and they told her/us that they want Gaddafi out, and the UN seems to feel the same way. Also when he calls the entire population of Benghazi (I think) traitors, and he's determined to put down any rebellion with military force, that's millions of people he's probably going to kill in that city alone. The fact that the US isn't deploying ground troops (and I think UK and France won't either, at least right now) suggests that they possibly know something we don't, and maybe we're just there to support the rebels by taking out Gaddafi's artillery so they can overthrow Gaddafi themselves. Bush just started a war with false intelligence and before he thought things through with other nations. Sometimes I'm critical of Obama too, and I wish we didn't try to be the world police, but as far as I can tell he isn't doing what Bush is doing. p.s. Now Italy is sending jets to Libya. __________________ Last edited by GregTheStig; 03-20-2011 at 12:20 PM..
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Tag this is the way 20186 Rep 8,979 Posts Drives: N-1 starfighter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chicago iTrader: (3)	Don't be fooled, the Arab League is a joke. They beg us to help them then they turn around and blame us because they are pussies that won't do anything themselves to protect their own people and stabilize their region. They would rather have foreigners foot the bill and risk their lives. They are a bunch of hypocritical assholes. See what I mean... "Military officials are said to be assessing the damage after at least 110 missiles were fired by the US and UK. After an attack by French planes, some 14 bodies were lying near destroyed military vehicles outside the rebel-held city of Benghazi, Reuters says. The head of the Arab League has criticised the bombardments. His comments are significant because the Arab League's support for the no-fly zone was a key factor in getting UN Security Council backing for the resolution authorising the move. "What is happening in Libya differs from the aim of imposing a no-fly zone, and what we want is the protection of civilians and not the bombardment of more civilians," said Arab League Secretary General Amr Moussa. BBC state department correspondent Kim Ghattas says if no Arab states participate in the no-fly zone, and there is criticism from the Arab world, the US could decide to pull out. The UK and France had also been told the Arabs would participate, she adds." Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12798568
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