[NYCGP]

I know, you're right. Well I have to talk to him later today when he gets off the course. The real problem is that he started out playing his handicap on certain days and adding to it on others. He would shoot like a 98 one day and a 120 something the next.

I will talk to him about telling them that he will spend more time practicing and honing his skills before returning to the outings. I just know it is going to kill him. He really enjoyed the comradery. It must have been tough for them as well. They didn't want to approach him directly about it.

Either way, I guess it will work itself out. I just don't want him to lose interest over this.

[double_j]

Unless the tournament is officially sanctioned or very serious it's not usual to have handicap limitations for entry (and club tournaments are usually flighted by handicap to keep the competition fair among members of similar skill).

Unless he's lying about his handicap to gain access to a tournament with an otherwise stated limit, this would be a very odd situation. What's especially weird is that they've let him play in the tournaments before and are now saying that he can't.

Something is off here. I don't think this is about the club saying he can't play, I think this is actually his playing partners finding a way to tell him that they don't want him on their team without actually owning up to it. If it was an official ruling, then why wouldn't the club call him directly as a member?

The other question is what kind of 30 handicap is your father? Some 30's go quietly about their way and just don't yet have the hang of the game. Other 30's are bad because they truly don't care about getting better and they usually end up being jackasses on the course as a result (e.g., slow play, damage the grounds, not respecting normal etiquette, loud & obnoxious, etc.). I doubt this is the case since he's spending so much time trying to get better, but if your dad was the latter, I'm not surprised that people are asking him not to play.

[NYCGP]

Just doesn't have the hang of the game yet. He is in incredible shape for a 58 year old man. His swing is getting much better. He just doesn't use his head. It amazes me sometimes that after almost 2 years of playing he just can't wrap his head around distance control and club selection. He also never carries a second ball in his pocket which I have been badgering him about for a year as well. I am not going to lie, I have seen this coming. I just thought now that he became a part of the community it would either slip by, or he would change his habits based on the pushing of others.

[JayKay335i]

hand gun thread?

[FStop7]

I think maybe he needs to step back and realize that if this is a big problem for him then he has a problem of perspective. Right now there are people in Japan picking their drowned loved ones out of the wreckage of their former homes. In Haiti there are people dying of cholera a year after an earthquake wiped out their capital city, which was already a nightmare. In the Middle East people are being shot in the street because they want to be able to vote for their leaders... in the USA the unemployment rate is over 10%. Just saying, if this is the problem that is bringing your dad down then he needs to buck up. Just go play golf somewhere else and have fun.

[JayKay335i]

What a party pooper

[FStop7]

Or he could just beat the club owner to death with his 5 iron.

[JayKay335i]

Now were talking

Cant you just call the head of the club and say something like "Hi, I'm so and so with xxxx sanitation, I hear you're looking to kick my father out of the club...." Silence should follow....

[NYCGP]

Originally Posted by FStop7

I think maybe he needs to step back and realize that if this is a big problem for him then he has a problem of perspective. Right now there are people in Japan picking their drowned loved ones out of the wreckage of their former homes. In Haiti there are people dying of cholera a year after an earthquake wiped out their capital city, which was already a nightmare. In the Middle East people are being shot in the street because they want to be able to vote for their leaders... in the USA the unemployment rate is over 10%. Just saying, if this is the problem that is bringing your dad down then he needs to buck up. Just go play golf somewhere else and have fun.

Let's all sell everything we own and never complain about anything ever again. EVER. All because shit happens to someone else that is worse than what is happening to us. Very, very weak advice.

I never knew hippies drove M6s.

[Verbiage]

LOL.

[FStop7]

Originally Posted by NYCGP

Let's all sell everything we own and never complain about anything ever again. EVER. All because shit happens to someone else that is worse than what is happening to us. Very, very weak advice.

I never knew hippies drove M6s.

No need to be a dick, I was simply pointing out that this is should not be enough of a big deal to have your dad as upset as you describe. Things come in degrees but you're only dealing in absolutes.

[JayKay335i]

Originally Posted by FStop7

No need to be a dick, I was simply pointing out that this is should not be enough of a big deal to have your dad as upset as you describe. Things come in degrees but you're only dealing in absolutes.

You could sell the M6 and donate all the cash to japan

Or you could worry about your own life and what affects you on a daily basis

[NYCGP]

Originally Posted by FStop7

No need to be a dick, I was simply pointing out that this is should not be enough of a big deal to have your dad as upset as you describe. Things come in degrees but you're only dealing in absolutes.

This whole thing means a lot to him. Me telling him that people are starving in Africa or the Japanese are suffering in Sendai is little solace. And quite frankly, is kind of insulting.

I don't know what kind of relationship you had with your father, but I care for mine very much. I want to see him happy and stress free. He has given me everything I have in my life and set a path that I have followed. He has overcome many worse things than this little situation.

However, it is something that has become important to him in his life. It is something he never let happen before. So the point you missed was, he let his guard down only to be disappointed.

Perhaps you're right, I am dealing in absolutes. Like out of all of the advice, your advice was absolute crap.

I am not trying to be a dick. I just want you to understand that saying what you said is never good advice to anyone. Except maybe a spoiled 12 year old that REALLY wanted the WII that he just can't afford.

[solefald]

Tell him to pick another sport and stop dealing with pretentions fucks.

[Wakka]

Originally Posted by JayKay335i

You could sell the M6 and donate all the cash to japan

Or you could worry about your own life and what affects you on a daily basis

[FStop7]

Originally Posted by JayKay335i

You could sell the M6 and donate all the cash to japan

Or you could worry about your own life and what affects you on a daily basis

He posted on the Internet soliciting advice for a problem. I pointed out that the problem is not as big as it's made out to be and to just have fun with the golf. If some dicks at the golf club want golf to be SERIOUS BUSINESS then let them, why let their asshattery bother you? Why let your emotions or happiness be controlled by others? Especially others who don't give two shits about him - if any of those people were actually his friends they'd either find a way to include him or figure out another way to keep his dad involved. Simply excluding his dad is a straight dick move and says to me that they don't respect him.

On another note OP, is your dad taking lessons? I didn't see that he was. Maybe some pro instruction will help him improve and keep things fun for him?

[NYCGP]

Originally Posted by solefald

Tell him to pick another sport and stop dealing with pretentions fucks.

This is at least on topic... They are pretentious fucks. But I love hitting that stupid white ball, and now, so does he.

[Blake]

pull the race card

[NYCGP]

Originally Posted by FStop7

He posted on the Internet soliciting advice for a problem. I pointed out that the problem is not as big as it's made out to be and to just have fun with the golf. If some dicks at the golf club want golf to be SERIOUS BUSINESS then let them, why let their asshattery bother you? Why let your emotions or happiness be controlled by others?

I get it man. I think we all do. We have also all heard that advice given to us by our parents or hippie friends/acquaintances at one time or another. It is extremely generic and does very little to make anyone feel better. Based on that line of thinking, no one should care deeply about anything because there are much bigger happenings than our small insignificant selfish desires.

My dad is hurt. Telling him they all suck and are assholes is true, but goes very little to make him feel any better. I am just gonna work with him this summer to get him into playing shape. Hopefully go back there next year and make them eat their words.

[solefald]

Originally Posted by NYCGP

This is at least on topic... They are pretentious fucks. But I love hitting that stupid white ball, and now, so does he.

What did Ferruccio Lamborghini do when Enzo Ferrari told him that he does not know shit about sports cars? He built a sports car.

Perhaps you and your dad should open a golf course?

I dunno, I don't play golf, but I would burn this bridge in a second and take my money elsewhere.

[bolinp78]

I'm still not understanding why he can't just join a group of guys that plays every week (or whatever frequency he wants). Groups like that can be as competitive as you want them to be. My dad does some tournaments, but I'd say 90% of his play is with multiple groups.

Simply put, the club events are obviously not catered towards golfers with handicaps that high.

[bolinp78]

Originally Posted by solefald

I dunno, I don't play golf, but I would burn this bridge in a second and take my money elsewhere.

That would be the absolute last thing you should do, unless of course they don't like you and are trying to "nicely" tell you to go away.