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svache · 03-15-2012, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SGScuba

My 328 Sportline on order is S$215,000 - that's Euro130,000/US$170,000. And that's without some options that I want, like lumbar and HK sound system (though the dealer has put in some options already).

So you're saying I should sell my car in Singapore instead?

SGScuba · 03-16-2012, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by svache

So you're saying I should sell my car in Singapore instead?

Heh, you'll be heavily taxed coming in... Trust me, the SG govt leaves no loopholes.

svache · 03-16-2012, 07:04 PM

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Heh, you'll be heavily taxed coming in... Trust me, the SG govt leaves no loopholes.

Not even for people who move there? With my earlier thought of going to Europe, the loophole would be that I have to have the title in my name for 6 mos in the US, and 1 year in the Netherlands. After that I was free to sell it without extra taxes

SGScuba · 03-17-2012, 05:17 AM

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Not even for people who move there? With my earlier thought of going to Europe, the loophole would be that I have to have the title in my name for 6 mos in the US, and 1 year in the Netherlands. After that I was free to sell it without extra taxes

I'd have to go find out. All I know is, none of the many Singaporeans (and non-Singaporeans) I know who have worked overseas for several years (and bought really nice cars when they were abroad) have ever brought them back to Singapore. So I'm guessing there either isn't such a loophole or the financial penalty is still too high to make it worth their while.

svache · 03-17-2012, 02:07 PM

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I'd have to go find out. All I know is, none of the many Singaporeans (and non-Singaporeans) I know who have worked overseas for several years (and bought really nice cars when they were abroad) have ever brought them back to Singapore. So I'm guessing there either isn't such a loophole or the financial penalty is still too high to make it worth their while.

ic, that's pretty terrible.. seems they really protect the market that way.

Raspartan · 03-17-2012, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SGScuba

I'll see you your really expensive European version and raise you my WTF-are-you-freaking-kidding-me Singaporean version.

My 328 Sportline on order is S$215,000 - that's Euro130,000/US$170,000. And that's without some options that I want, like lumbar and HK sound system (though the dealer has put in some options already).

Who'd like to top that?

I'm guessing no one will. Does this make the car a rare sight in Singapore though? Maybe income levels compensate?

SGScuba · 03-18-2012, 03:54 AM

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I'm guessing no one will. Does this make the car a rare sight in Singapore though? Maybe income levels compensate?

No, Singaporeans do have high disposable income cos of the low income and GST (VAT) tax rates. So BMWs, MB & Audis are a dime a dozen on Singapore roads.

The high COE makes it more "worthwhile" to buy a bigger, fancier car than a small cheap one, when considering what proportion of the total cost of the car the COE makes up.

Raspartan · 03-18-2012, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SGScuba

No, Singaporeans do have high disposable income cos of the low income and GST (VAT) tax rates. So BMWs, MB & Audis are a dime a dozen on Singapore roads.

The high COE makes it more "worthwhile" to buy a bigger, fancier car than a small cheap one, when considering what proportion of the total cost of the car the COE makes up.

So what you're saying then is that you are in fact better off than we are.

svache · 03-19-2012, 01:11 AM

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So what you're saying then is that you are in fact better off than we are.

SGScuba · 03-19-2012, 11:38 AM

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So what you're saying then is that you are in fact better off than we are.

Quality of life - probably not.
Pure $$ in the bank, spending power, investments - probably.

malc410326 · 03-25-2012, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SGScuba

My 328 Sportline on order is S$215,000 - that's Euro130,000/US$170,000. And that's without some options that I want, like lumbar and HK sound system (though the dealer has put in some options already).

What?!?!? Did I read this correct....A 328i Sport for the equivalent of US$170,000?!?!?!

You definitely have a point there that all of us here in the States really shouldn't complain too much regarding the price on our Bimmers.

Has your Bimmer been shipped to you? If not, when do you expect it's arrival? I still cannot get over the fact that it will cost you US$170,000.....

Junction17 · 03-27-2012, 01:17 AM

People! Let's face it, if you can afford to be seriously thinking about buying a new BMW as we are, then you can afford the xenons. BMW know this.

It is a little frustrating that EVERY single marketing photo, advert and demo car I have ever seen has them fitted when it's actually an optional extra and IMO this slight dishonesty damages the BMW brand and integrity. Make your feelings clear when they come asking for customer feedback. Still, it's a bloody great car.

Mrcarcrazy · 03-27-2012, 09:18 AM

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People! Let's face it, if you can afford to be seriously thinking about buying a new BMW as we are, then you can afford the xenons. BMW know this.

This I agree with

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It is a little frustrating that EVERY single marketing photo, advert and demo car I have ever seen has them fitted when it's actually an optional extra and IMO this slight dishonesty damages the BMW brand and integrity.

This is absolute nonsense. Look at the pics closer...you'll notice the cars have EVERY option. Why? They'd sure hate for someone to look at the photo and say "What? That BMW doesn't have xyz? I'll buy a Cadillac instead!" It's not dishonest, it'd be dishonest if the pictured items were not available.

Junction17 · 03-27-2012, 04:15 PM

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This I agree with

This is absolute nonsense. Look at the pics closer...you'll notice the cars have EVERY option. Why? They'd sure hate for someone to look at the photo and say "What? That BMW doesn't have xyz? I'll buy a Cadillac instead!" It's not dishonest, it'd be dishonest if the pictured items were not available.

Not nonsense. My point is that one assumes that the pictured items are standard, not an added hidden expense.

Mrcarcrazy · 03-30-2012, 08:24 AM

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Not nonsense. My point is that one assumes that the pictured items are standard, not an added hidden expense.

You know what they say about assuming.

hollandog · 03-30-2012, 10:20 AM

$54k I can get a F30 335i loaded very well.

a well loaded 328i should be less than $50k.

SGScuba · 04-01-2012, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by malc410326

What?!?!? Did I read this correct....A 328i Sport for the equivalent of US$170,000?!?!?!

You definitely have a point there that all of us here in the States really shouldn't complain too much regarding the price on our Bimmers.

Has your Bimmer been shipped to you? If not, when do you expect it's arrival? I still cannot get over the fact that it will cost you US$170,000.....

Sorry for the late reply...been away for over a week on a business trip, followed by a dive weekend. Just got back a couple of hours ago.

Yep, cars are *gulp* EXPENSIVE here in Singapore. With my options (and those selected by the BMW distributor in Singapore), my Bimmer comes up to S$222,000 (approx US$176,500).

Sadly, it's not even in production yet...sigh. May production, June shipment, I get delivery in late June or early July. Long wait.

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hollandog Major 448 Rep 1,056 Posts Drives: F30 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: nyc iTrader: (0) Garage List 2016 BMW 340i [9.00]	$54k I can get a F30 335i loaded very well. a well loaded 328i should be less than $50k.
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