[DARK_M3]

Originally Posted by Nine

Far too often I see drivers texting when on the highway, major roads, stoplights, etc.

What do you do?

What percentage are driving as though they aren't texting at all? What percentage like they are in a drunken derby?

That's what you have to ask yourself. Government wants to keep getting in the way of the 4th Amendment... you know... the one that says as long as I'm not hurting anyone else just leave me the fuck alone!

Now if they're driving like they're in the drunken derby... that's another story.

[fitchesbass]

^ you're very talented.

This dude probably thought the same thing... oh wait no he was "distracted by his homework". Chewing gum hardly compares to texting. I can breath and walk... so therefore I can multi-task.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/aaron-devea...4#.T_YvPXB3x0g


If I see someone texting and I'm on the motorcycle I get as far away as possible. If it's in traffic I either get behind them or change lanes. I don't want a Chevy up my ass because they didn't see I stopped. On the bike I'll sometimes stare at them and try to get their attention once I'm out of the way. That probably does nothing.

When I'm in my car I normally do the same thing (minus the starring) but am less aggressive / concerned with getting out of their path. Motorcycle I'm out of there once I see they are consistently looking down.


EDIT: Agree...not sure how I feel with laws about it. But I also don't see how else to punish reckless drivers. I live in VA where we can't legally have radar detectors... banning texting while driving is something that at least makes sense!

Having a drivers license is a privilege, not a constitutional right. If you are unfit to operate a motor vehicle, then you should not have the privilege to drive. I don't want to get killed on a motorcycle (or car) because a driver is busy texting his/her buddies about misc bullshit.

[jpsum]

i call 911

[954Stealth]

If I see someone texting at a red light, I'll honk. Sometimes they know they weren't paying attention, think they missed the green light change and floor it through a red light even though it's still red. As they're t-boned by a bus I chuckle and say to myself "that'll teach 'em"

[Want_1]

Originally Posted by 954Stealth

If I see someone texting at a red light, I'll honk. Sometimes they know they weren't paying attention, think they missed the green light change and floor it through a red light even though it's still red. As they're t-boned by a bus I chuckle and say to myself "that'll teach 'em"

but scary

[ragingclue]

Originally Posted by 954Stealth

If I see someone texting at a red light, I'll honk. Sometimes they know they weren't paying attention, think they missed the green light change and floor it through a red light even though it's still red. As they're t-boned by a bus I chuckle and say to myself "that'll teach 'em"

Heh that works best if you time it so that the guys in the left turn lane get the arrow, but the texter is still in the through lane and is first in line. They get startled and see that the lane of traffic next to them is going so they instinctively go. The horn helps push the agenda.

[Slow_335i]

Brake check!

[DARK_M3]

Originally Posted by fitchesbass

^ you're very talented.

This dude probably thought the same thing... oh wait no he was "distracted by his homework". Chewing gum hardly compares to texting. I can breath and walk... so therefore I can multi-task.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/aaron-devea...4#.T_YvPXB3x0g


If I see someone texting and I'm on the motorcycle I get as far away as possible. If it's in traffic I either get behind them or change lanes. I don't want a Chevy up my ass because they didn't see I stopped. On the bike I'll sometimes stare at them and try to get their attention once I'm out of the way. That probably does nothing.

When I'm in my car I normally do the same thing (minus the starring) but am less aggressive / concerned with getting out of their path. Motorcycle I'm out of there once I see they are consistently looking down.


EDIT: Agree...not sure how I feel with laws about it. But I also don't see how else to punish reckless drivers. I live in VA where we can't legally have radar detectors... banning texting while driving is something that at least makes sense!

Having a drivers license is a privilege, not a constitutional right. If you are unfit to operate a motor vehicle, then you should not have the privilege to drive. I don't want to get killed on a motorcycle (or car) because a driver is busy texting his/her buddies about misc bullshit.

The constitutional right to travel freely came about before the automobile. But I do see having to regulate things since they're are so many more people now coupled with the fact that they are 'travelling' in something much faster than a horse and wagon. The wee little problem comes two fold though in terms of punishment. One, for a crime to have been committed there has to be a damaged party. Unless you run someone over while texting there is no damaged party lol. And the much larger issue is the fact that once we go get a license, we technically enter into a contract with the issuing agency (DMV) however there is two things wrong there. First, the contract is not disclosed to you and second, both parties haven't signed it. Under contract law this makes it null and void. Unfortunately we can't use that as a defense to a moving violation because traffic court isn't concerned with 'law', only collecting your money aka revenue.

But that's a whole other discussion

[Nine]

Originally Posted by DARK_M3

What percentage are driving as though they aren't texting at all? What percentage like they are in a drunken derby?

That's what you have to ask yourself. Government wants to keep getting in the way of the 4th Amendment... you know... the one that says as long as I'm not hurting anyone else just leave me the fuck alone!

Now if they're driving like they're in the drunken derby... that's another story.

Dark_M3, .....really??? ....Seriously? You're f***ing with me right?

Don't ask me, ask yourself, where do you want somebody's eyes...looking at a phone in their lap, head down looking below their steering wheel, or focused on the road.

[Templar]

Originally Posted by DARK_M3

One, for a crime to have been committed there has to be a damaged party. Unless you run someone over while texting there is no damaged party lol.

What? Since when? Click it or ticket has been implemented in many states for a long time. A lot of people aren't injured from not wearing a seatbelt, but you can get a ticket for it in a lot of states.

You could apply your same logic to DUI's... How many people drive drunk and are fortunate enough not to injure themselves or others? Does that make it OK for people to drive drunk? Absolutely not...

Sorry but that statement is pretty false.

[Sara]

Originally Posted by Templar

What? Since when? Click it or ticket has been implemented in many states for a long time. A lot of people aren't injured from not wearing a seatbelt, but you can get a ticket for it in a lot of states.

You could apply your same logic to DUI's... How many people drive drunk and are fortunate enough not to injure themselves or others? Does that make it OK for people to drive drunk? Absolutely not...

Sorry but that statement is pretty false.

+1

[Sara]

Originally Posted by Slow_335i

Brake check!

[Greenkirby21]

This happened a few days ago in Dallas.

Wanna guess what the driver was most likely doing?!

Didn't even hit the brakes. Hit the guy full on.

its a miracle the first guy didn't die his car was completely crumbled

[DARK_M3]

Originally Posted by Templar

What? Since when? Click it or ticket has been implemented in many states for a long time. A lot of people aren't injured from not wearing a seatbelt, but you can get a ticket for it in a lot of states.

You could apply your same logic to DUI's... How many people drive drunk and are fortunate enough not to injure themselves or others? Does that make it OK for people to drive drunk? Absolutely not...

Sorry but that statement is pretty false.

The same logic does apply. I'm not saying that you won't get a ticket/arrested for any of the above. I'm simply stating that the law states that there must be a damaged party in order to bring forth action against you.

That's almost never the case. Due process has somehow disappeared from the whole thing.

[DARK_M3]

Originally Posted by Nine

Dark_M3, .....really??? ....Seriously? You're f***ing with me right?

Don't ask me, ask yourself, where do you want somebody's eyes...looking at a phone in their lap, head down looking below their steering wheel, or focused on the road.

I'm fu**ing with you just a little bit kinda sorta.

[DARK_M3]

Originally Posted by 954Stealth

If I see someone texting at a red light, I'll honk. Sometimes they know they weren't paying attention, think they missed the green light change and floor it through a red light even though it's still red. As they're t-boned by a bus I chuckle and say to myself "that'll teach 'em"

So by sitting at a red light stopped and not hurting anyone, you want them to all of the sudden create an accident? That makes perfect sense!

[Nine]

Originally Posted by DARK_M3

I'm fu**ing with you just a little bit kinda sorta.

Dammm you devil's advocate!!!!!!

[DARK_M3]

Originally Posted by Nine

Dammm you devil's advocate!!!!!!

[TeRRoRiFiC35]

Two of my friends had their cars totalled by a girl who was texting and driving at 4 AM in the morning (shockingly she wasn't drunk). She hit the one car first, backed up and went forward into the other. Cop stopped her a town over because her front bumper was literally scrapping the ground. She ended up crying and telling the cop what she did.

[Templar]

Originally Posted by DARK_M3

The same logic does apply. I'm not saying that you won't get a ticket/arrested for any of the above. I'm simply stating that the law states that there must be a damaged party in order to bring forth action against you.

That's almost never the case. Due process has somehow disappeared from the whole thing.

Where does the law (whatever law you're supposedly referring to) say that?

If you're caught on the road driving while intoxicated, you're put behind bars or you lose your license and you're fined. It's illegal, whether you injure someone/cause damage or not. It has nothing to do with due process...

Are you really trying to justify that texting while driving is perfectly fine? Because it's not. Hopefully they start fining and taking away licenses for people who are caught doing it. I'd be satisfied knowing dangerous people who can't keep their eyes on the road are out of my way, making it safer for me and my family.

[954Stealth]

Originally Posted by DARK_M3

So by sitting at a red light stopped and not hurting anyone, you want them to all of the sudden create an accident? That makes perfect sense!

So you're saying that - because nothing's happened YET - that it's ok? Just because nothing drastic has happened does not meant that you're not creating an unsafe environment for others. It's a red light, sure, but you are in the middle of a most likely busy intersection with your vehicle in first or 'D' with cars zooming by perpendicular to you and pedestrians passing mere feet from your bumper.

Here's an interesting article to read.
TWI vs DWI

As a side note, I truly hope you think my post was not serious. I don't do that to people.

[TeRRoRiFiC35]

You do the pit manuever on them instead, dont you?