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There's documentaries for conspiracy theories for 9/11, Illuminati, etc. Are any of these compelling scientific evidence for you? If the answer is yes, we have a fundamental difference in the understanding of the world around us, how to determine fact from fiction and we are just not going to agree. Quote:
When you use the word cure like that, you've just given anyone who takes science seriously, a pass to dismiss you. As I said before, if your ultimate goal is to make marijuana legal, you aren't doing yourself favors portraying it in that way.
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http://oehha.ca.gov/prop65/prop65_li...ngle072012.pdf Break down of the contents of marijuana smoke which lists known carcinogens and summary of various case studies: http://oehha.ca.gov/prop65/hazard_id...MJsmokeHID.pdf Ask yourself, why is it important to you that marijuana be portrayed as some wonder-drug-cure-all AND as something with no negative effects? That's not needed. Thou dost protest too much. In my opinion, attempting to be as objective as possible, I think marijuana should be legal. But I don't share your other views on it, nor do I currently smoke it.
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So no, I don't accept that "real life evidence" as proof. I don't choose to use the words evidence, proof or cure as loosely as you do. Quote:
The bottom line is cancer is caused by those things that cause cancer, regardless of what you feel or any bias you have. Science is the best method we have of making a determination of what those substances are. Quote:
If you are referring to a scientific study that certain conditions are rising, then that study probably has some guesses as to why they found what they did. I'm pretty sure it wasn't "nature has a lot to teach us". Science has a lot to teach us.
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Are pharmaceutical companies somehow discouraging him from doing that? Maybe they have representatives make visits to every competent scientist who they think are capable of such research and threatening them? A threat great enough to dissuade being rich and immortalized in human history? These are the kinds of ideas I can ONLY have when I've smoked pot. And even then, they are just "dude.. what if.. blah blah blah", but I fully come back to reality afterwards.
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http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/dru...CTION=symptoms Most drug addictions start with casual or social use of a drug. For some people, using the drug becomes a habit, and its use becomes more and more frequent. As time passes, you may need larger doses of the drug to get high. Soon you may need the drug just to feel good. As your drug use increases, you may find that it becomes increasingly difficult to go without the drug. Stopping may cause intense cravings and make you feel physically ill (withdrawal symptoms). Drug addiction symptoms or behaviors include: Feeling that you have to use the drug regularly — this can be daily or even several times a day Failing in your attempts to stop using the drug Making certain that you maintain a supply of the drug Spending money on the drug, even though you can't afford it Doing things to obtain the drug that you normally wouldn't do, such as stealing Feeling that you need the drug to deal with your problems Driving or doing other risky activities when you're under the influence of the drug Focusing more and more time and energy on getting and using the drug Marijuana and hashish It's possible to develop a psychological addiction to cannabis compounds including tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) found in marijuana and hashish. People who have a marijuana addiction generally use the drug on a daily basis. They don't actually have a chemical dependence on the drug but rather feel the need to regularly use the drug. Quote:
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Most dangerous thing about marijuana is that it's illegal/prohibited. Acquiring it can be dangerous and not knowing if the dealer mixed it with something would keep me from ever trying it. I've never had an issue with a person high on pot alone. It's pretty ridiculous how it is still illegal in certain places.
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http://www.trueactivist.com/20-medic...n-cure-cancer/ http://www.cureyourowncancer.org/dr-...acle-baby.html http://patients4medicalmarijuana.wor...-cannabis-oil/ http://www.cureyourowncancer.org/testimonials.html Now show me evidence that chemotherapy or radiation are effective in treating cancer. Cancer rates have been increasing for years, and the most likely cause is diet. 90% of the stuff you'll find at a grocery store is harmful for you in some way. You can look up other diseases like Alzheimer's or luekemia. http://www.ourstolenfuture.org/NEWSC...rincidence.htm |
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I can only think this thread was created to create discussion for it's own sake. I doubt few would claim that most folks see weed as far less harmful than alcohol and other drugs. The fact that one can buy and use it in its natural form rather than exclusively as a controlled and mass produced pill makes that much clear. I heard just yesterday that in even recreational purchase and use of weed is going to be largely overlooked by the Justice Department. I cannot help but imagine that in the next decade weed will land in about the same spot that alcohol landed after prohibition was ended, and for much the same set of reasons. All the best.
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I've been a long time friend of MJ and have switched from smoking to vaporizing for couple years. I wouldn't go as far as saying its healthy but I really don't think it causes any negative health issues. All I know is that too much of anything can be unhealthy or even kill you ie. junk food, aspirin, cola, energy drinks, and even vitamin pills but hey guess what these are all perfectly legal to purchase even by a minor.
After many years of advocating my friend MJ, I have given up. There are too many stubborn people in this world that only cares what the law/government says and never smells the bullshit. Especially the ones that drink alcohol regularly and chain smokes but says MJ is the DEVIL when they haven't even tried it once. As long as a I can still get my stuff at a reasonable price and at a reasonable quality then I'm Mr. Happy. For those who feel that MJ is an addictive drug, look at a regular cigarette smoker and tell me that's not 100x worse. Sometimes I go months without hittin MJ and say hey, man I've been so busy lately I forgot to light one up, but I've never seen or heard a regular smoker forget to have their regular cigarette. Now that's addiction.
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Other than that, I pretty much agree with what you're saying.
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I'm not saying that's its not addictive and "studies" show that the addiction rate is around 10% which I have no problem agreeing with or supporting. The problem is how we define addiction with MJ and how it compares to other substances that have very uncontrollable physical addiction symptoms. Of my many years of usage (especially in BC) I have yet to meet someone that was addicted to mj and mj alone. If we want to classify all addictions being equal then I would put coffee, McDonald's, or even coca cola in this equation and see what % comes up. I personally am addicted to tea, I MUST and I repeat MUST have a good cup of Chinese tea every morning.
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Their social circles changed, they had money problems, trouble at work etc. It became hard to hang out with them because every conversation and every activity revolves around it. They eventually both overcame it. One friend now has a family and no longer smokes. The other still smokes just much MUCH less. Those are just two of my friends. I know half a dozen people that I went to high school with that just became burn outs and still live like that. Some move on to bigger drugs, some just do nothing all day and spend their lives trying to get high. Quote:
Someone else had mentioned that they didn't think smoking twice a day was addicted. Ask yourself if someone needed to get drunk twice a day, would we consider them to have a problem.
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no thats normal, i can quit anytime i want, i just dont want to! get out of my head.
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