[pgviper]

GTR + Snow Tires

I know you said no turbo's but I personally think it's awesome how you can have a gtr with three sets of wheels/tires and you can have a track car, road car and winter car.

[saeyedoc]

Doesn't low end torque + no turbo limit you to supercharged?

[baege]

Originally Posted by saeyedoc

Doesn't low end torque + no turbo limit you to supercharged?

the c63 had pretty good low end torque...

[Mingwan]

I thought the LC500 was going to be a joke. It actually turned out nicely. I would definitely pick it over the BMW and likely the Merc equivalent.

[baege]

I have always been a sports car guy. Ever since I moved from my very first car, an automatic Toyota tercel COUPE to a 1974 celica GT 5 speed, I have been a sports car guy with more recent cars being
e86 z4 coupe, 2014 Cayman s, 2015 Corvette C7 and now a 2016 Cayman S

I have always loved quick acceleration and putting the car through the twisties and shifting through the gears. So basically wringing out a high strung manual car was always fun for me...

until lately

now I don't feel the need for speed in the same way, the rough ride of the x73 suspension on my cayman wears on me, I don't like the frenetic rev to redline of the flat six, I seem to be tiring of a manual transmission

I feel myself wanting a more compliant ride, lots of torque at low rpm so I don't have to rev it out, and the ease and immediacy of paddle shifters...

so basically I seem to be leaning more to a GT type car than a sports car experience...

I am 45...too soon?

[inTgr8r]

It's all a state of mind.... Nothing to do with age.

I can see how DD could take the edge off.
Time for fun weekend car and a different DD ?

[GTA Z4MC]

I Hear Ya
It might also have something to do with how bad the roads are in downtown toronto.
My Z Car has been driven only a few times. I could never DD it.
I drive my 335 everywhere
There's that hump where the DVP North transitions to 404 going over the 401 (worst in left lane). My car gets close to airborne at 100KM's per.
If you live in the north end of the GTA it's not to bad.
Buy a second car.
At 45 years of age lets hope for another 50 years on the planet.
Or maybe buy a Caterham or a Cobra and a Big GT Car.

[RABAUKE]

I'm 56, I still love my Z4MC, but I hear you on the hard suspension. Having said that on a nice piece of road there is something very satisfying about the Zed. Not a daily driver but on the weekend or a road trip I do love that thing. I have a small MB SUV for my daily, nice and comfy. I can see the appeal of a GT car but what ever you do remember you're only as old as you let yourself feel, and a sports car is way cheaper than a 20 year old girlfriend.

[Red Bread]

I'm 44 and still only own manuals. However suspension stiffness seems mentally tied to performance for me. My M Coupe handled great, so the ride was commiserate with expectations. The 135i didn't handle nearly as well but rode worse, so I hated that car (along with other reasons).

I agree with the above, maybe it's time to have a comfy car and a focused car? A Caterham, Ariel or Morgan three wheeler are all on my list, while adding an E63 Touring or Panamera Wagon fills the utility needs and won't feel as silly knowing I have a fun manual car for when I want to hoon things up a bit.

[1MOREMOD]

Retirement home in order

[The HACK]

It's called "low T syndrome." They've got supplements for that, so I've been told.

Erectile distinction medication can alleviate too, but I wouldn't know because I don't have this problem.

[1MOREMOD]

Erectile distinction?

[FriskyDingo]

Originally Posted by baege

I have always been a sports car guy. Ever since I moved from my very first car, an automatic Toyota tercel COUPE to a 1974 celica GT 5 speed, I have been a sports car guy with more recent cars being
e86 z4 coupe, 2014 Cayman s, 2015 Corvette C7 and now a 2016 Cayman S

I have always loved quick acceleration and putting the car through the twisties and shifting through the gears. So basically wringing out a high strung manual car was always fun for me...

until lately

now I don't feel the need for speed in the same way, the rough ride of the x73 suspension on my cayman wears on me, I don't like the frenetic rev to redline of the flat six, I seem to be tiring of a manual transmission

I feel myself wanting a more compliant ride, lots of torque at low rpm so I don't have to rev it out, and the ease and immediacy of paddle shifters...

so basically I seem to be leaning more to a GT type car than a sports car experience...

I am 45...too soon?

Well, I just turned 30, and although it definitely has partly to do with my lack of financial means to have a vehicle for both purposes, I have found myself becoming more attracted to cars that are more than just one-dimensional back road burners.

There was a time when I would totally DD an Exige to have that kind of athleticism and ability. Now, a Vantage is much more appealing. I would take a new Targa C4S over a Cayman GT4. A ZL1 convertible over a Z06 w/ Z07 Pkg.

I have found somewhat small/midsize sports GT's are what I enjoy the most now. I plan on trying to pick up a 997 C2S Coupe w/ 6MT within the next year, and I couldn't see myself going any more focused/stripped/hardcore than that.

You should look into the new RS5, or even TT RS.

[dgoldenz]

Sounds like you need a 991...

[aozer]

You're old

[MalibuBimmer]

Originally Posted by baege

I have always been a sports car guy. Ever since I moved from my very first car, an automatic Toyota tercel COUPE to a 1974 celica GT 5 speed, I have been a sports car guy with more recent cars being
e86 z4 coupe, 2014 Cayman s, 2015 Corvette C7 and now a 2016 Cayman S

I have always loved quick acceleration and putting the car through the twisties and shifting through the gears. So basically wringing out a high strung manual car was always fun for me...

until lately

now I don't feel the need for speed in the same way, the rough ride of the x73 suspension on my cayman wears on me, I don't like the frenetic rev to redline of the flat six, I seem to be tiring of a manual transmission

I feel myself wanting a more compliant ride, lots of torque at low rpm so I don't have to rev it out, and the ease and immediacy of paddle shifters...

so basically I seem to be leaning more to a GT type car than a sports car experience...

I am 45...too soon?

Yes. I'm 72. Currently have an i8 and an M4. I drive the i8 in Sport and the M4 in M+ mode. I will be getting a Mercedes AMG GT in November. (I do like DCT, however, my one concession to age.)

So snap out of it!

[Never_Enough]

45 is too soon? Shit, I'm mid 30s & feel the same.

[c1pher]

No you're not old. You can afford finer things and are now more discerning. When you're younger and earn less, it's all about bang for the buck.

[damnitBobby]

I don't think your age has too much to do with it, but more about past experience and how much you drive. For me I've been daily driving small sports cars (RX8, 350Z, and currently FRS) for the past 12 years. All manual transmissions with average daily commutes of 75-90 miles. Now it's finally starting to take it's toll and I'm wanting what you're wanting.

Some people live next to work or have a short commute to and from work, in which case I can see daily driving a small stiff suspension sports car. But longer commutes is what's getting me. The days I drive my Mercedes SUV its actually a huge relief. Now I'm wanting something between a small cramped sports car and big floaty SUV. So I plan on getting a DCT M3 soon!

[RM7]

There are great handling cars these days that don't pound you. Compliant and well damped shocks are not always speced and magnetic ride shocks on some cars allow for far more compliance without decreasing traction.

[baege]

Originally Posted by inTgr8r

It's all a state of mind.... Nothing to do with age.

I can see how DD could take the edge off.
Time for fun weekend car and a different DD ?

thing is I don't DD it!

[baege]

So in my pursuit of something that will turn my crank more than my 981CS(Porsche Cayman) currently does, I test drove an M2 yesterday.

And I really liked a lot about the car. The compact size and visibility made it very accessible and fun to drive. The engine/exhaust sound was great. The car had a directness to it. and believe it or not the ride was actually better than my x73 981CS.

I liked it quite a bit, but then there was the dreaded turbo lag. I detest turbo lag. I find it takes away from the immediacy and connection of the driving experience.

reviews said lag in the m2 was minimal, but for me it was immediate and obvious and I didn't like it. I want it now

But aside from the lag, I otherwise liked the car enough that it made me think...would I get used to the lag such that it was a non-issue?

For those who have gone from normal aspiration to turbo in a modern car, is the turbo lag something you acquire a taste for and begin to actually prefer over normal aspiration? or do you at least acclimate to it such that it becomes a non-issue?