[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

Still watching all the footage, but it sucks that max binned it. Can't say I'm surprised because the pressure has to be immense for max now.


This goes to show Nico Rosberg was right, being the leader of the championship puts immense pressure on you, and being the one behind relieves alot of pressure because you have nothing to lose. Hamilton even did an interview saying he felt alot of pressure was lifted off of him behind behind.

So for those of you saying max doesn't feel pressure, he's super human, etc etc. Turns out that's not the case like I keep saying, he's human and he feels pressure and he's just hiding it from the media because no one likes to show weakness when in competition. But now he's cracking under the pressure.

Apparently you forgot who is still the leader in the WDC ?

BTW ...A 7-time World Champ was hitting the wall twice at Imola '21 !
HAM the 7-time WDC ,so actually he's the super human without feeling pressure but he hits the wall twice ?!?!
In other words your statement is just BS ...

But now he's cracking under the pressure ? You must be kidding !
Mate , we'll see that tomorrow who is cracking !
I expect a Mexico-episode 2

[Chappers 71]

Originally Posted by F87source

What about the two max fans who constantly bash Hamilton, make up lies about Mercedes, and constantly want him to lose?

Imagine the gleeful posts if it had been Lewis that had put it in the wall & thrown away pole

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by F87source

What about the two max fans who constantly bash Hamilton, make up lies about Mercedes, and constantly want him to lose?

What about them?
I don't see them saying they don't want someone to win because of other people that are unrelated to that driver.

You let them influence you choice?

I mean if they're crazy about steak and post again and again posts about why steak tastes better than a schnitzel, you stop eating steak and start eating schnitzel?

Originally Posted by Chappers 71

What would your definition of a true fan of the sport be?

That you make up your mind not influenced by people you don't like, but by what happens in the sport itself or what the drivers or teams stand for.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

What about them?
I don't see them saying they don't want someone to win because of other people that are unrelated to that driver.

You let them influence you choice?

I mean if they're crazy about steak and post again and again posts about why steak tastes better than a schnitzel, you stop eating steak and start eating schnitzel?

Really? So you haven't seen the DNF, engine failure, gernade, and cheating/penalty comments?



"But are you then a true fan of the sport?"

This is what you said about chappers, hold the same standard and apply it to everyone. Lies, unfounded accusations, and unsubstantiated hate towards a driver/team is not being a fan of the sport.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Apparently you forgot who is still the leader in the WDC ?

BTW ...A 7-time World Champ was hitting the wall twice at Imola '21 !
HAM the 7-time WDC ,so actually he's the super human without feeling pressure but he hits the wall twice ?!?!
In other words your statement is just BS ...

But now he's cracking under the pressure ? You must be kidding !
Mate , we'll see that tomorrow who is cracking !
I expect a Mexico-episode 2

The leader always feels more pressure than the underdog, because the leader is expected to win otherwise he failed. The underdog has no expectations placed upon them because he is not expected to win, hence all the pressure is on the leader and the underdog feels relieved. This is per nico rosberg during his 2016 title battle.


Never claimed Lewis was super human, I called him out on every mistake this season especially that garbage about blaming his brake magic/brake bias button. You are the one who thinks max is some driving god who is superior to all others, as demonstrated by your other posts and gaslighting to make max seem better than he is. Well he is susceptible to pressure unlike your narrative would dictate and he showed that today by locking up and binning it.


We will see tomorrow, but regardless of what happens tomorrow max still showed he is susceptible to pressure and is not a perfect superhuman driver like you keep saying he is.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

What about the two max fans who constantly bash Hamilton, make up lies about Mercedes, and constantly want him to lose?

Originally Posted by F87source

Really? So you haven't seen the DNF, engine failure, gernade, and cheating/penalty comments?



"But are you then a true fan of the sport?"

This is what you said about chappers, hold the same standard and apply it to everyone. Lies, unfounded accusations, and unsubstantiated hate towards a driver/team is not being a fan of the sport.

We never said : "I wish HAMILTON would have died at Silverstone" ?!? !

But what HAM preachers said was/is :

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

We never said : "I wish HAM would have died at Silverstone" ?!? !

But what HAM preachers said was/is :

Neither have I, but I do recall you saying Hamilton and Mercedes staff should be beat up/harassed in Zandvoort.

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by F87source

Really? So you haven't seen the DNF, engine failure, gernade, and cheating/penalty comments?



"But are you then a true fan of the sport?"

This is what you said about chappers, hold the same standard and apply it to everyone. Lies, unfounded accusations, and unsubstantiated hate towards a driver/team is not being a fan of the sport.

I don't think you understand my point.

My point is, that if you loathe someone, that someone should be the last person to influence your choice on subjects that are totally unrelated to that person.
I mean M-power Belgium and M5Rick don't have a direct connection to Max Verstappen or Red Bull Racing; they don't speak for them, so it makes no sense in objective terms to base your opinion on Max Verstappen or Red Bull Racing because M-power Belgium and M5Rick post things you happen not to like.

Like I said: if they post things about why steaks taste better than schnitzel, you stop eating steak and start eating schnitzel?
That doesnt make sense in objective terms.

[rcracin]

Both Lewis and Max showed signs of pressure.

Lewis made an error on his first Q3 lap and Max at the end.

It’s ridiculous to think the pressure isn’t a major factor and that the greatest drivers are impervious to it.

I think Max was in a trance and just nailing it all perfectly but forgot to think about the tire heat and pressure. If he would’ve finished that lap, it would’ve been the best pole lap of the season and his career. No risk, no reward. He had to try.

I was happy to see Jos V angry. That man is an embarrassment to the sport and parents worldwide.

[Chappers 71]

Originally Posted by F87source

Really? So you haven't seen the DNF, engine failure, gernade, and cheating/penalty comments?



"But are you then a true fan of the sport?"

This is what you said about chappers, hold the same standard and apply it to everyone. Lies, unfounded accusations, and unsubstantiated hate towards a driver/team is not being a fan of the sport.

Personally as I'm not invested in the current two contenders it makes no difference to me who wins this wdc, it's been one of the best & closest battles for a while which is great for any racing fan.
As I've stated before, I'd prefere it not to be Lewis that beats MSC seven WDC & I'd like Max to loose this wdc just so I can read M5Rick & MPowerBelgiums teeth gnashing posts about how Max was robbed by cheating, sabotage & conspiracies until the next season starts, maybe I'm just shallow

But rest assured I will be invested when young Mick is racing in the scarlet car

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by rcracin

No risk, no reward. He had to try.

Actually that is something he might have learned from his father.

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by Chappers 71

As I've stated before, I'd prefere it not to be Lewis that beats MSC seven WDC & I'd like Max to loose this wdc just so I can read M5Rick & MPowerBelgiums teeth gnashing posts about how Max was robbed by cheating, sabotage & conspiracies until the next season starts, maybe I'm just shallow

So if on another forum, who you'd like to win?
Which driver do you like better, either by what happens on the track or maybe how he is on a personal level (guesstimation of course...)
For example, who would you rather drink a pint with in a bar: Lewis or Max?

[Chappers 71]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

So if on another forum, who you'd like to win?
Which driver do you like better, either by what happens on the track or maybe how he is on a personal level (guesstimation of course...)
For example, who would you rather drink a pint with in a bar: Lewis or Max?

At the start of the season I didn't want it to be another cake walk by MB & Lewis so I was favouring Max but during this latter part of the season Lewis has done very well to get himself where he now is & it'd be a well deserved wdc if Lewis did take it.
As long as the racing's good I really don't mind which of them takes it, in either case it will be well earned.

I'd be happy to have a drink with either of them...

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

MBelgies ? Who are you talking about ?

I'm scratching my head too..I wonder who that is??

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

Neither have I, but I do recall you saying Hamilton and Mercedes staff should be beat up/harassed in Zandvoort.

I didn't said anything , the words came from the Dutch Orange Army .

BTW : Harassed is still better than been killed under the hands of the HAM preachers ..

[Chappers 71]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

MBelgies ? Who are you talking about ?

I'm talking about YOU...

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

What about them?
I don't see them saying they don't want someone to win because of other people that are unrelated to that driver.

You let them influence you choice?

I mean if they're crazy about steak and post again and again posts about why steak tastes better than a schnitzel, you stop eating steak and start eating schnitzel?


That you make up your mind not influenced by people you don't like, but by what happens in the sport itself or what the drivers or teams stand for.

No words needed after you said that Guido

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

I didn't said anything , the words came from the Dutch Orange Army .

BTW : Harassed is still better than been killed under the hands of the HAM preachers ..

100 lines for them my friend, 'I must not write things until I know what I'm talking about' hahaha

[F87source]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

I don't think you understand my point.

My point is, that if you loathe someone, that someone should be the last person to influence your choice on subjects that are totally unrelated to that person.
I mean M-power Belgium and M5Rick don't have a direct connection to Max Verstappen or Red Bull Racing; they don't speak for them, so it makes no sense in objective terms to base your opinion on Max Verstappen or Red Bull Racing because M-power Belgium and M5Rick post things you happen not to like.

Like I said: if they post things about why steaks taste better than schnitzel, you stop eating steak and start eating schnitzel?
That doesnt make sense in objective terms.

Yes I get that, and you are absolutely correct.

However, you can't just call chappers out and not the others as well (they too hate hamilton). Because that wouldn't be holding everyone to the same standards you set out.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Chappers 71

I'm talking about YOU...

Well then you should check my username !

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

I didn't said anything , the words came from the Dutch Orange Army .

BTW : Harassed is still better than been killed under the hands of the HAM preachers ..

You missed the beat up part, I believe you also said lewis wouldn't leave Zandvoort alive if he and max crashed there.

So yeah... I don't see any lewis fans saying they'd kill Max, but I see max fans saying they'd kill Lewis. So projection?


Either way this is a topic I'd like to avoid since it is against everything f1 is about.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

I didn't said anything , the words came from the Dutch Orange Army .

BTW : Harassed is still better than been killed under the hands of the HAM preachers ..

The engineer now making things up as he goes along, what next from his fairy tale book.