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      11-24-2024, 01:14 PM   #419
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Unheard Charles Leclerc X-rated radio rant after losing Las Vegas podium to Sainz:
— Charles Leclerc lost third place to Carlos Sainz at the Las Vegas Grand Prix and vented his frustration in an explicit team radio exchange.
— Despite being told Sainz would not overtake, the Spaniard passed Leclerc, leading to these messages:
Bozzi: “Carlos has been told to not overtake but it is really close, you might be just in front. He has been told to not put you under pressure. So just take care of your tyres.”
Leclerc: “Maybe try in Spanish.”
Bozzi: “Pick up please.”
Leclerc: “Yes, whatever you want, as always.”
Bozzi: “Charles, you did your job. Okay. Thank you.”
Leclerc: “Yeah I did my job. But being nice fks me all the f**king time. All the f**king time. It’s not even being nice, it’s just being respectful, I know I need to shut up but at one point is always the same so… Oh my fking god.”
Bozzi: “Okay, but anyway you did the right thing for the team.”
Bozzi: “Pick up please.”
Leclerc: “F**king pick up what the f**k you want. And the radio is on, I am sorry.”
Fred Vasseur: “Charles! Charles!”
— This adds to previous tensions between Leclerc and Sainz during the season, despite Leclerc insisting their rivalry is exaggerated.
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Post-race onboard radio: Leclerc fumed, with a barrage of expletives. He risks stewards to look into this during the Qatar race weekend.

https://youtube.com/shorts/ing0usYfvrA

Also post-race, Leclerc suggested that Sainz screwed him by disrespecting an agreement made prior to the race. With 60 WDC points still up for grabs, Leclerc's gap to Norris would have been reduced to 18 points instead of 21 if he had finished P3 today instead P4. Will be a loaded atmosphere down at Team Ferrari.

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TacticalRab thinks that Sainz's "loose gun" attitude to challenge team orders may have contributed in missing out on getting a Mercedes or RB seat.
See 10:43 to 14:01:
Ferrari things wow.

A more exact piece of war breaking out on lap 44. SAI was told not to overtake Charlie and he did. Ferrari failed to control the situation by asking SAI to hand the position back, Fred is a weak leader who just wants to safe ride on the waves.
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      11-24-2024, 01:31 PM   #421
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Well they screwed Sainz by dumping him, why should Sainz comform

There is always a small chance that the Mercs could take each other out and in that case 3rd inherits 1st.
Oh, I don't blame him. Ferrari screwed him!!! I wouldn't listen either.
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Oh, I don't blame him. Ferrari screwed him!!! I wouldn't listen either.
Yep . They tried to screw Sainz . But it didn't work

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Well they screwed Sainz by dumping him, why should Sainz comform

There is always a small chance that the Mercs could take each other out and in that case 3rd inherits 1st.
Indeed, it could have been a feisty encounter between Russell and Hamilton in the final laps, raising Toto Wolff's pulse. But both drivers do know that any Barcelona 2016 scenario would have been met with 'The Wrath of Wolff'.
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Ferrari things wow.

A more exact piece of war breaking out on lap 44. SAI was told not to overtake Charlie and he did. Ferrari failed to control the situation by asking SAI to hand the position back, Fred is a weak leader who just wants to safe ride on the waves.
Yuki didn't like a FIA sign
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Congratulations to Verstappen for a well-deserved WDC.

Worth noting our champ can only win with a winning car. Otherwise he’s just another (excellent) driver. And for those pointing to Interlagos, any win that you share the podium with two Alpines is not all that great.

See you all next year.
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Yuki didn't like a FIA sign
Thank goodness Yuki didn't hit MAX in the opening laps.

MAX reveals his white lightning helmet he'll be using after Vegas with 4 stars. (should be drinking IPA to relax not heineken schmeineken
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Meanwhile, the character played by Brad Pitt for the F1 movie got apparently 'drain covered':

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Meanwhile, the character played by Brad Pitt for the F1 movie got apparently 'drain covered':

Sounds painful whatever it was...
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Thank goodness Yuki didn't hit MAX in the opening laps.

MAX reveals his white lightning helmet he'll be using after Vegas with 4 stars. (should be drinking IPA to relax not heineken schmeineken
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Well they screwed Sainz by dumping him, why should Sainz comform

There is always a small chance that the Mercs could take each other out and in that case 3rd inherits 1st.
He's not been screwed at all. They picked a substantially better driver
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He's not been screwed at all. They picked a substantially better driver
Substantially older with only a few years left IMHO. I would have kept Sainz. Will have to wait for 2025 to see if they made the right choice.
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To win a WDC in the 3rd fastest car is something that has now only being done 3 times in history including Max this year. And the last time it was down, 40 years ago which tells you, you need to be a driver of monumental talent to do it - especially in an age where his team has had a material handicap in testing, and during an age where budgets are limited to once again benefit lesser teams and level out the field. Since 2022, F1 has been the single most competitive F1 field ever, and that too, stands out monumentally.
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Just wait for next year my friend : Charlie vs LEW (!)

LEW will go down . LEW's end is near at Ferrari.
Charlie is 'God and the Pope in Italy...
You know what genuinely concerns me? Elkann and Ferrari threw an obscene amount of money at HAM with salary and project-funding. From a purely business/investment standpoint, they could give HAM preferential treatment and upgrades that LEC doesn't get just because of their investment in him.

That would piss me off to no end and likely cause me to bail on Ferrari as a fan.
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— Formula 1 is set to announce next week that Cadillac F1 will officially join the grid in 2026. Press reports from Las Vegas reveal that the team has secured a power unit supplier for 2026 and 2027, with Ferrari engines expected to be used during this period.
— Starting from 2028, Cadillac F1 will transition to using in-house designed and built power units, marking a significant milestone for the General Motors brand.
— The team will officially operate under the name Cadillac F1, rather than the previously intended Andretti Global. Michael Andretti, who recently stepped down from his company, will not have a role in the F1 team, but Mario Andretti, a former Formula One world champion, will serve as the team’s ambassador.
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He's not been screwed at all. They picked a substantially better driver
it's possible.

we'll find out this time next year.
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...any win that you share the podium with two Alpines is not all that great.
That's disingenuous. And unfair. I mean, technically, you're not wrong but the two Aplines were the only ones to pit under a red flag and that's a huge advantage.
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You know what genuinely concerns me? Elkann and Ferrari threw an obscene amount of money at HAM with salary and project-funding. From a purely business/investment standpoint, they could give HAM preferential treatment and upgrades that LEC doesn't get just because of their investment in him.

That would piss me off to no end and likely cause me to bail on Ferrari as a fan.
it's not unheard of in F1, Schumacher, Max, the younger Lewis, etc.
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