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      08-30-2020, 05:52 PM   #4577
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That's how I do it. I buy the box of frozen pizzas at Costco and then add more shit to it and bake on a stone with the BBQ. Comes out great and the kids like it.
I've gotta try that! I might need a bigger BBQ...
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      08-30-2020, 08:33 PM   #4578
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Depends on what you're wanting it for I guess, and your overall budget. The Rem 700 is a tried and true platform with a lot of great accessories and upgrades (although I've heard some less great things about them more recently). Tikka makes some very very good, and still affordable, bolt guns IMHO. (I'm doing a Tikka + glass build for an elk hunter).

Personally I would be a little uncomfortable with a gun + glass at $550, but that may be my inner snob coming out. Again really depends on your use case and budget. If you're looking at hunting or long distance shooting, I think investing in good glass, (FFP, good eye relief, low light performance, etc..) is important.
It would be kind of an entry into bolt action rifles. I have a bolt action mossberg 20ga but otherwise no experience with them or any optics really.
Eventually id like to go on a hunting trip after elk or moose but that probably wont happen for awhile yet.
My budget i could buy this gun without even thinking about it or like i said i could buy a kimber montana although i dont want to overspend and find it is not my forte. Unless the higher end guns are that much better.

As far as handguns go(to give you an idea of how i feel about different classes of weapons) i carry a taurus G2C and own 2 taurus revolvers. However i also own a kimber 1911 and a ruger SP101 along with a glock. So i wouldnt really consider myself a brand snob. If someone makes a good gun regardless of price point i’m typically interested.
For now it would be primarily a range toy with field use possible later down the road.
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For all 1911 fans: are you guys switching to 9mm? Seems to be getting more popular vs the traditional .45.
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A 1911 should be .45
I have considered getting one in 10mm though
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Depends on what you're wanting it for I guess, and your overall budget. The Rem 700 is a tried and true platform with a lot of great accessories and upgrades (although I've heard some less great things about them more recently). Tikka makes some very very good, and still affordable, bolt guns IMHO. (I'm doing a Tikka + glass build for an elk hunter).

Personally I would be a little uncomfortable with a gun + glass at $550, but that may be my inner snob coming out. Again really depends on your use case and budget. If you're looking at hunting or long distance shooting, I think investing in good glass, (FFP, good eye relief, low light performance, etc..) is important.
It's not just you.... with good glass alone costing more than that package price, one has to wonder where the corners were cut.

My vote would be a Rem 700 with some really nice glass.

For people not sure about whether they are making the correct choice, buying used allows one to get out and not take a big hit if it's not their cup of tea.



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A 1911 should be .45
I have considered getting one in 10mm though
I too feel a 1911 is synonymous with .45, but there are many out there from .22 on up. I can only assume that means the 1911 platform is a pretty good building block.
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For all 1911 fans: are you guys switching to 9mm? Seems to be getting more popular vs the traditional .45.
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A 1911 should be .45
I have considered getting one in 10mm though
I'm a big 1911 fan, I have a few .45acp, I have a 10mm and a 9mm.

Obviously .45 feels right. I like the 10mm, I have carried it quite a bit and put quite a bit of ammo through it.

With proper springs the 1911 handles 10mm very well, but full power 10mm is a hot round, and after a day of training with it you know you weren't shooting 9mm.

I have a 1911 in 9mm (springfield), I do not like shooting it. It just feels weird to me. I got into discussion about it on a gun forum, my takeaway was that the recoil pulse, and slide velocity we so different and slower that it just doesn't feel right.

Part of the reason that I chose to carry a 1911 is the CA magazine limit, there isn't much of a penalty when you are limited to 10 rounds and its very easy to carry an additional single stack mag or two, but if the new ruling holds and we are allowed standard capacity mags I will reevaluate my carry gun situation.
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It would be kind of an entry into bolt action rifles. I have a bolt action mossberg 20ga but otherwise no experience with them or any optics really.
Eventually id like to go on a hunting trip after elk or moose but that probably wont happen for awhile yet.
My budget i could buy this gun without even thinking about it or like i said i could buy a kimber montana although i dont want to overspend and find it is not my forte. Unless the higher end guns are that much better.

As far as handguns go(to give you an idea of how i feel about different classes of weapons) i carry a taurus G2C and own 2 taurus revolvers. However i also own a kimber 1911 and a ruger SP101 along with a glock. So i wouldnt really consider myself a brand snob. If someone makes a good gun regardless of price point i’m typically interested.
For now it would be primarily a range toy with field use possible later down the road.
Take a look at Savage. They have a good selection of rifles and they are good shooters right out of the box. Their prices are in line with your budget.

I had a Savage 10FP that shot great. I'm sure you can find something that works for you.
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I'm a big 1911 fan, I have a 10mm
have you shot the glock 10mm? if so, wondering how they differ. my g20 shoots like a 9mm
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have you shot the glock 10mm? if so, wondering how they differ. my g20 shoots like a 9mm
yes, I have one, I don't love it.

With real 10mm ammo (most bulk/range ammo is basically .40s&w in a longer case), and even with the lighter stuff the polymer frame gets a nasty vibration. After a while its just not that enjoyable to shoot, that and you just can't compare a glock trigger to a single action 1911 trigger.

For a woods gun the G20 is difficult to beat, but for shooting at the range...not so difficult to beat.

Edit: If you're looking for a little comparison...

I really like a 1911, I have turned into a bit of a trigger snob, and I like the feel of a metal frame, they don't transfer vibrations (if you shoot Glocks much you probably know what I mean) to the shooter like the Glocks do (in CA we just have gen3 Glocks, maybe newer ones are better?).

It has been a long time since I fired my G20, I don't recall being bothered by the recoil, it has a big heavy slide to tame the 10mm. If it tells you anything the 10mm 1911 is one of my carry guns (in CA you have to qualify with and submit a list with up to 3 carry guns), and I don't bother taking the G20 out of the safe anymore. I have taken my 10mm 1911 to a class and sent hundred of rounds through it, (I did find a rough spot on the safety, but a little blood on the grip adds character).

For me, I shoot for fun, and to stay proficient with my carry guns (I am WAY overdue for a range trip, the 'rona), I just don't enjoy shooting Glocks when I compare them to other guns. I have always said they are great tools, and a great value, but there are plenty of other guns that are more enjoyable to shoot.

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I have a compact 1911 in .45 and a commander sized 1911 in 9mm.
Both sit and gather dust since I got some 2011s.
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Picking up an IWI Galil ACE in 7.62x39 tomorrow, little brother to the .308 “Hebrew Hammer” I’ve already got. Pistol variety with brace, will likely put in for SBR stamp tomorrow so I can put a real side folder on it with stubby grip. I’m likely going to keep this one in my car full time. Will post pics tomorrow or Wednesday!
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Picking up an IWI Galil ACE in 7.62x39 tomorrow, little brother to the .308 “Hebrew Hammer” I’ve already got. Pistol variety with brace, will likely put in for SBR stamp tomorrow so I can put a real side folder on it with stubby grip. I’m likely going to keep this one in my car full time. Will post pics tomorrow or Wednesday!
Nice!

The Galil is a sweet gun!

It is on my list...
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Picking up an IWI Galil ACE in 7.62x39 tomorrow, little brother to the .308 “Hebrew Hammer” I’ve already got. Pistol variety with brace, will likely put in for SBR stamp tomorrow so I can put a real side folder on it with stubby grip. I’m likely going to keep this one in my car full time. Will post pics tomorrow or Wednesday!
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Nice!

The Galil is a sweet gun!

It is on my list...
I don't have the Galil, but man I am really impressed with IWI! Love my Tavor and am probably going to grab a TS12 shortly!
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I don't have the Galil, but man I am really impressed with IWI! Love my Tavor and am probably going to grab a TS12 shortly!
The Tavor is very cool, I put a trigger in mine, the stock trigger is...not so great
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The Tavor is very cool, I put a trigger in mine, the stock trigger is...not so great
What trigger did you go with? The Tavor trigger was WAY better than the KelTec bullpup trigger IMHO, but obviously not as smooth as a good AR trigger.. Would be happy to improve it!
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What trigger did you go with? The Tavor trigger was WAY better than the KelTec bullpup trigger IMHO, but obviously not as smooth as a good AR trigger.. Would be happy to improve it!
I put in a Timney. It’s still not as crisp as an ar, it just can’t be, but a major improvement.
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anyone know where to get 12 gauge slugs online? tried doubletap, cheaper than dirt and midway usa no luck
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anyone know where to get 12 gauge slugs online? tried doubletap, cheaper than dirt and midway usa no luck
I was able to get a good amount of 12 gage for my DP12 back in July from this vendor.

militaryshooters.com

I usually get my ammo from these guys, but like most other vendors, 5.56, 7.62 and 45 ACP are still sold out according to this site.

I wish you success in restocking!
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