[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by dbarton62

Final revision. Send it.

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[Steeler]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

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I think Schumi would approve honestly.
Although Ham may need to watch out for a certain Haas driver come Abu Dhabi

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by dbarton62

I think Schumi would approve honestly.
Although Ham may need to watch out for a certain Haas driver come Abu Dhabi

Oddly enough, as a Ferrari fan, I always preferred Rubins & Massa over OG MSC. If "Driver To Survive" was around back in the day that might have changed. MSC always seemed too robotic. Kind of like VET, I never liked him much till DTS.

However, I do like Mick and it wouldn't hurt my feelings if he "accidentally" slid into 1ewis

[Steeler]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Oddly enough, as a Ferrari fan, I always preferred Rubins & Massa over OG MSC. If "Driver To Survive" was around back in the day that might have changed. MSC always seemed too robotic. Kind of like VET, I never liked him much till DTS.

However, I do like Mick and it wouldn't hurt my feelings if he "accidentally" slid into 1ewis

Shift L man, that looks a 1 at beginning of L8wis

[F87source]

Originally Posted by Wakka

He had the fastest lap before he put the softs on.

Yes but Lewis couldn't challenge with the virtual safety car at the end, and when max put on the softs it was pretty much all over for any counter attempts.

[Wakka]

Originally Posted by F87source

Yes but Lewis couldn't challenge with the virtual safety car at the end, and when max put on the softs it was pretty much all over for any counter attempts.

yeah agree, I'm just saying Max didnt get fastest lap because of the softs, he never had the chance to even try a fast lap on them iirc.

[Autobacs]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Oddly enough, as a Ferrari fan, I always preferred Rubins & Massa over OG MSC. If "Driver To Survive" was around back in the day that might have changed. MSC always seemed too robotic. Kind of like VET, I never liked him much till DTS.

However, I do like Mick and it wouldn't hurt my feelings if he "accidentally" slid into 1ewis

That is odd. I had little respect for Rubens as a driver. He was happy to be a #2 at Ferrari for the most part but took shots at MS when he left Ferrari and was second fiddle to Button as well.

Massa I liked more even though he was not on par with MS and ALO. He definitely was on par with Kimi and save for Ferrari's idiocy would have won the WDC in 2008.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by Wakka

yeah agree, I'm just saying Max didnt get fastest lap because of the softs, he never had the chance to even try a fast lap on them iirc.

Yeah true, but it also didn't make sense for Lewis to risk it all and challenge for the fastest lap because of all those tire failures. Plus Mercedes don't have vb to help either.


But the fastest lap doesn't reflect pu health especially if one team does it during a lighter fuel load and the other team doesn't have a chance to retaliate.

[tdott]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

I wonder if you actually sleep or just wander around all night making up nonsense with fancy words, for an insomniac you sure come up with some!
Try taking a sleeping pill mate it might help you.

Since you have no response, we will just assume you don't understand the big words and you have no logical response or counter point.

[tdott]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

And Ham followed him in sympathy? that's how much your post makes sense.
Learn up on tyre compounds and their limits, yup they do have limits.

what made up garbage do you believe in your mind that causes you to not understand Max pushed Lewis wide at turn 4, he had to go wide or max would have caused a collision again like he did at Silverstone.

wow you might be even more clueless than the other one.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by tdott

Since you have no response, we will just assume you don't understand the big words and you have no logical response or counter point.

Just typical behaviour of trying to shift the subject or topic when you cannot debate back with logic or reasoning. Not surprising.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by Autobacs

That is odd. I had little respect for Rubens as a driver. He was happy to be a #2 at Ferrari for the most part but took shots at MS when he left Ferrari and was second fiddle to Button as well.

Massa I liked more even though he was not on par with MS and ALO. He definitely was on par with Kimi and save for Ferrari's idiocy would have won the WDC in 2008.

Yep, Rubins was no match for MSC but I like / liked his personality better. Same with Massa. Really wish both weren't such nice guys. Ferrari definitely needs a Niki Lauda type but don't think either could do it...And Kimi couldn't give a shit.

Thinking HAM could pull it off but has way too many other interests. Honestly I can't think of anyone else offhand

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

It's pretty simple : To beat MAX... A *Rocket engine in Warp-Speed is really required !

Yeah ...Let's hope to get more Japanese ponies ASAP !

Well would you guess it, Merc rear wing passed the load test on Saturday (after they removed the bendy one and replaced it with another one which was slower on the straight.
https://www.planetf1.com/news/merced...st-rock-solid/

[F87source]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Well would you guess it, Merc rear wing passed the load test on Saturday (after they removed the bendy one and replaced it with another one which was slower on the straight.
https://www.planetf1.com/news/merced...st-rock-solid/

Again pull quoting and cherry picking of what article...

The article did not mention Mercedes replaced the wing with a new version.... You guys literally are proving you can't do research if your life depended on it. Or you guys are straight up ignorant. Literally every reputable F1 YouTube channel like the race (who have former F1 engineers to speak to - I believe Gary Anderson) talked about it on their pod cast, they said the score marks were literally nothing of concern and likely within the acceptable grey area of wing flex and redbull were only doing it to stirr up controversy and would let it die off when Mercedes passed all tests.


This also proves redbull is full of sh!t and have no clue what they're talking about when it comes to Mercedes and their w12. So Karen Horner confirmed? And max actually changed his wing so dirty max?


You guys literally were bashing Mercedes, toto Wolff and Lewis without any proof. It shows how good you guys are at analyzing details and just exemplifies your tendencies to jump to conclusions and condemn teams to guilt without proof. This cements every single post from you two in the future to be treated as nothing but inaccurate, biased, opinion at best.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by F87source

Again pull quoting and cherry picking of what article...

The article did not mention Mercedes replaced the wing with a new version.... You guys literally are proving you can't do research if your life depended on it. Or you guys are straight up illiterate. Literally every reputable F1 YouTube channel like the race talked about it on their pod cast, they said the score marks were literally nothing of concern and likely within the acceptable grey area and redbull were only doing it to stirr up controversy and would let it die off when Mercedes passed all tests.


This also proves redbull is full of sh!t and have no clue what they're talking about when it comes to Mercedes and their w12. So Karen Horner confirmed? And max actually changed his wing so dirty max?
You guys literally were bashing Mercedes, toto Wolff and Lewis without any proof. It shows how good you guys are at analyzing details and just exemplifies your tendencies to jump to conclusions and condemn teams to guilt without proof. This cements every single post from you two in the future to be treated as nothing but inaccurate, biased, opinion at best.

So many words from you for an article quote from me so just read the article mate, whether you agree with it or not is your prerogative.

[F87source]

Essentially the lower top speeds are likely due to the old ice being used (and it was still faster than redbull), this is bad news for redbull because they likely have no answer for the straight line speed Mercedes is able to generate, and if the w12 is suited for these high speed corners in the last 2 tracks redbull won't even be able to keep up in the turns.

This will be a huge blow if redbull loses this championship because like 2013 they spent the entire season developing this car and likely sacrificing some resources that should be devoted to next year's car.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

So many words from you for an article quote from me so just read the article mate, whether you agree with it or not is your prerogative.

So many words because you literally quoted the article as if it proved your talking point but it doesn't. It literally prove the opposite, and showed you guys don't have a clue of what you're talking about. If it indeed said Mercedes had to change their wing then I would have agreed Mercede's old wing pushed the grey area too far but nope it didn't.


I did read the article and I have no issue with what the article is saying, I have an issue with what you're saying. That's why I'm calling you out on it. Zero mention of a wing change, hence they passed the new load tests on their current wing that you guys implied flexed due to "score marks".


So the only cheater this season is redbull and max, as they're the only ones who failed/had to make changes to accomodate nfor a new FIA test. I expect you two to uphold your harsh critiques on max the same way you bashed Lewis. From now on its dirty max, because unlike Mercedes redbull did have to make an entirely new wing to last the test.

[Steeler]

Everyone take a step back, Dickie's back in town.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by Autobacs

He definitely was on par with Kimi and save for Ferrari's idiocy would have won the WDC in 2008.

BTW, No way Massa was on par with Kimi!!!

Just as HAM has a Golden Horseshoe up his arse Kimi is just the opposite. People forget how binding fast Kimi was at the beginning of his career with a McLaren that was constantly falling apart. He then moved to Ferrari at almost precisely the wrong time. Remember the Ferrari wind tunnel problems & steering pull rod /push rod fiasco? It's true Kimi was like a match. Burned hot and faded way too soon (Not all his fault). But I'd take him over Massa anytime. Stats aren't everything my friend but "The Peoples Champion" crushes Massa.

[Autobacs]

Originally Posted by dbarton62

Everyone take a step back, Dickie's back in town.

Good. The question still is where is Mksixer.

[Autobacs]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

BTW, No way Massa was on par with Kimi!!!

Just as HAM has a Golden Horseshoe up his arse Kimi is just the opposite. People forget how binding fast Kimi was at the beginning of his career with a McLaren that was constantly falling apart. He then moved to Ferrari at almost precisely the wrong time. Remember the Ferrari wind tunnel problems & steering pull rod /push rod fiasco? It's true Kimi was like a match. Burned hot and faded way too soon (Not all his fault). But I'd take him over Massa anytime. Stats aren't everything my friend but "The Peoples Champion" crushes Massa.

All good. No offense but IMO Kimi is a bit overrated and no knock against him. He is a very good driver but not an elite one. He is a bit overrated because his "Iceman" persona, which is very interesting for sure, mystifies some of his supporters to magnify his actual driving skills beyond what it is. Cult like almost for some.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by Autobacs

All good. No offense but IMO Kimi is a bit overrated and no knock against him. He is a very good driver but not an elite one. He is a bit overrated because his "Iceman" persona, which is very interesting for sure, mystifies some of his supporters to magnify his actual driving skills beyond what it is. Cult like almost for some.

Agree, not elite but on the edge. Thinking "Iceman" comes more from his personality than skill. But his cult members will be sad next year. Like him or not, one of a kind for sure