[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

Miss me with that.
That's all you and the rest of the nuts here.

Let me remind you that just a page ago, you were claiming that Ferrari could conspire against Charles to favor Lewis, when we saw Ferrari favor Charles over Sebastian.

You and the rest of the forum literally refused to acknowledge Lewis being cheated out of his rightful WDC in 2021
Refused to Acknowledge him literally destroying the entire grid (that wasn't in a RB) in 2023 including Charles
Made excuses as to WHY Ferrari shouldn't sign Lewis over Sainz, including that Sainz would be a better teammate (LOL WHAT!)

These opinions aren't just ridiculous, they have all shown to be basically false.

So flip that Mirror around and take a hard look.

Ham was not cheated in 2021 yet he and MB cheated when their payments to the FIA made sure that when Ham cut track limits 28 times in Bahrain he wasn’t penalized once. Then when MB ordered Bottas to crash out Max in Hungary they weren’t penalized. Max won fair and square and that WDC was won over the entire season despite the cheating MB did. Sorry but your guy blew it on a MATERIALLY faster car and still had to cut corners which were magically also not penalized.
You do forget that Massa WAS actually cheated out of a WDC that ham got only because they covered up a cheating scandal and admitted to it.

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

I remember when this forum argued with me when I said than Lando was mediocre. The same names and faces here - and the same people high fiving each other now. If you guys couldn't objectively see that Lando was barely a midfielder, I'm not sure how you can believe that you don't live in a state of adjective delusion when it comes to Max.

"Best ever" they excitedly claim on a guy who couldn't beat Hamilton. It literally took the FIA crafting rules, huge amounts of $$$, and the fastest car for him to still fall short.

And this is your king?


Pathetic.

And yet, that mediocre driver bitch smacked Hamilton in the WDC standings despite having a back marker car for 1/4 of the season, along with his near rookie teammate and several others who out scored Ham by a boatload. He barely beat Perez who had like 4 DNFs. LOL

[NYG]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Please refrain from politicizing this thread and from going ad hominem.

Deleted several comments.

Piece of advice: see #10 of "A Decalogue of Canons for observation in practical life" penned on Feb 21, 1825 in Monticello by Thomas Jefferson in a letter to Thomas Jefferson Smith (sources: here and here):

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Thomas Jefferson is the true greatest of all time.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by NYG

Thomas Jefferson is the true greatest of all time.

=> https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...1&postcount=17

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

=> https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...1&postcount=17

Aha so seemingly the obvious answer to why they're so quick, getting a 1-2 out of the blue. An investigation is beckoning I would think as the FIA officials inspected the front floor dam of the RB20 when Merc complained..

[GuidoK]

[G30M]

F1 speed record

[NYG]

Originally Posted by G30M

engine explodes immediately after setting F1 speed record

I thought Gasly's engine exploded?

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

=> https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...1&postcount=17

Ferrari hoping hammy will bring his cheating skills with him

[G30M]

Originally Posted by NYG

I thought Gasly's engine exploded?

hmm ... i must be confused

[FC4]

This section has turned to trash. Sad.

[dfox]

Interesting stats.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by NYG

I thought Gasly's engine exploded?

Albon DNF'd also with engine issue.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Ferrari hoping hammy will bring his cheating skills with him

Nothing can beat the Ferrari strawberry fuel . It gave Charlie wings ..

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Nothing can beat the Ferrari strawberry fuel . It gave Charlie wings ..

Maybe hammy can teach them stealth cheat modes

[G30M]

sorry no link, just copied from someone's post

F1 drivers impressed by swift action from new FIA race director:
— George Russell and Carlos Sainz praised new FIA Formula 1 race director Rui Marques for his responsiveness and effective decision-making during his first weekend in charge at the Las Vegas Grand Prix.
— Marques, formerly a race director in F2 and F3, stepped into the role after Niels Wittich’s unexpected dismissal following the Sao Paulo Grand Prix, prompting concerns over his experience managing F1 races.
— After their first meeting with Marques, both drivers expressed satisfaction with his swift implementation of driver-requested changes.
— Russell highlighted Marques’ approach to track limits:
“Positive, to be honest. We’ve been through a little bit of an era where our comments are taken on board, but very little change happens. For example, a number of drivers spoke about the track limits at turn four. We felt it was a little bit unnecessary on a street circuit, and he made a change to it in the moment. That is what we want to see as drivers. We all want to be heard, and we want to see action taken straightaway. So far it has been positive.”
— Sainz echoed Russell’s sentiments and mentioned an additional change regarding pit entry visibility:
“He has been given a massive task to come into a season with three races left, and being a race director is such a complicated role in Formula 1.
“George commented on the exit of turn three. I would say we also asked for some changes on the pit entry to make the line more visible because we literally couldn’t see the pit entry line and we were very worried about that.
“Today, we turned up to the track, and the pit entry line was widened with a blue line. We were all saying this was really nice because they did a very nice change. The way we were listened to yesterday was very positive, and I’m very encouraged by that.”
— Both drivers agreed that Marques’ swift and effective adjustments created one of the most productive driver briefings in recent memory.
VIA: [Motorsport]

[G30M]

also interesting no penalty for Sainz crossing exiting pit lane, i thought that was going to be a penalty

[fs1977]

The Sainz incident was explained earlier. Because it was from pitlane to track it counts only as tracklimits. If it was the other way around, from track to pitlane it would be different.

[fs1977]

Originally Posted by dfox

Interesting stats.

Pretty similar.

[M5Rick]

F1 Chief Steward Tim Mayer, son of Teddy co founder of McLaren has been sacked by FIA.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/31523...n-sulayem.html

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

Ham went from 10th to 2nd and passed Max. Guess Max is garbage

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

With the media fawning over the "greatest driver ever" you would think he would have more accomplishments besides winning 2.5 WDCs. His toughest competition this year was a guy who was clearly a step behind Sainz, and he almost lost to him.

The cognitive dissonance here is wild.

Verstappen demonstrating his racing skills ain't limited to F1 only.

He already won the virtual "24 Hours of Le Mans" and virtual "Nürburgring 24h" (he's considered to be amongst the finest drivers worldwide in sim racing too) and I expect him to also win the real "24 Hours of Le Mans" after retiring from F1.

Combining an F1 race weekend with a sim racing world competition event (while all competing F1 drivers are focusing on the race weekend events only: FPs, qualies and race), and win both events: which other F1 driver ever pulled this off ?

Originally Posted by Artemis

Max The Machine...

Sat May 18 - Sun May 19

• 12:30pm-1:30pm: 1h F1 Free Practice 3 at Imola - P6
• 4pm-5pm: 1h F1 Qualies Q1-Q2-Q3 at Imola - P1
• afterwards: F1 press interviews at Imola
• 8:40pm-11:35pm: almost 3h sim GT3 evening stint at Nürburgring 24h (hours of darkness) - P1
• after midnight: watches Usyk-Fury world heavyweight title fight
• 9:15pm-10:15pm: 1h sim GT3 morning stint at Nürburgring 24h (daylight) - P1
• afterwards: joined the Discord channel - Twitch - Team Redline teammates
• 2:50pm: sim Team Redline wins Nürburgring 24h (GT3)
• 3pm-4:30pm: F1 race at Imola - P1
• afterwards: F1 press interviews at Imola

"Verstappen indicated Imola's bumpy track had caused him more trouble in the end.
"I'm just broken from the bumps, to be honest. My back, everything is hurting. It's not so much from the physical side of things, but just it was so bumpy out there. Already after like 20 laps, I could really feel my back," he said.
"So I'm just looking forward to laying in bed. Maybe take some painkillers. And a massage."
https://www.espn.com/f1/story/_/id/4...-one-day-imola

As Verstappen's sim rig didn't fit inside an F2 trailer, it was transported to Imola with a flower vendor truck...

"Verstappen manages two wins in one day thanks to iRacing N24
By Morgan Raynal | May 19, 2024 4:46 PM ET
Max Verstappen is known to participate in sim racing events during downtime from his busy F1 schedule. Impressively, this weekend the three-time world champion won both the Emilia-Romagna Grand Prix and the Nürburgring 24-hour on iRacing.
On Friday, Team Redline announced that Verstappen would be driving the No. 20 BMW GT3, and naturally his fans wondered how he would participate during the F1 race weekend.
The Dutchman had a special racing simulator made that would be small enough to fit in his motorhome close to the Imola circuit.
“We were supposed to ship it in a Formula 2 trailer with MP Motorsport, but the sim was just a tiny bit too big, so it didn’t fit, but they helped us out greatly,” said Atze Kerkhof, Director of Team Redline.
MP Motorsport came up with a solution and sent the sim rig with a flower vendor who was headed to Imola anyway.
“The sim got shipped in a bus or in a trailer with flowers to Imola… He had everything pre-connected, so basically it was almost plug-and-play,” Kerkof said.
Verstappen took pole position in Imola qualifying, which ended at 5:00 p.m. CEST. Meanwhile, his Redline teammate Diogo Pinto was starting the 24-hour race. By 8:45 p.m. Verstappen was driving his first two-and-a-half hour night stint at the Nürburgring.
After some sleep and solid stints by Pinto, Chris Lulham, and Florian Lebigre, Verstappen returned for another two hours at “the Ring” before doing 63 laps around Imola in his Red Bull.
At the end of his second and final stint, he joined the Discord channel with Twitch stream commentator Luke Crane and Team Redline teammates.
“Right, mate, that was lovely,” said Verstappen. Crane congratulated him on a nice final stint and Verstappen replied, “Yeah, extended the gap a bit, very lovely… I have to go.”
Chris Lulham drove the final stint for the No. 20 and secured the win for Team Redline after 24 hours. Fifteen minutes later, Verstappen took the green flag at Imola.
The Dutchman dominated the Emilia-Romagna Grand Prix; McLaren driver Lando Norris was a close second and Charles Leclerc finished third for Ferrari."

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Originally Posted by dfox

Interesting stats.

This doesn’t take into account the qualitiative things like car competitiveness - Max won 2 of these WDCs in inferior and slower cars whereas Ham’s first was only won with a blantant cheating scandal the FIA admitted to covering up and the other 3 were in a car so fast Helen Keller would have gotten in and won with ease. Beyond that 2022/2023 from Max are stastically two of the best seasons ever in F1 (only other one close was Schumacher’s 2004) and are way above Ham’s best season by large margin.
On top of that, winning, especially year over year since 2022 has become the hardest in history due to budget and limited testing scale, the most competitive field of cars which are some of the most difficult to drive as well, and was done in an era of skill and talent that was not there when Ham won his in the most dominant and easy to drive car ever seen. So Max’s all around have far more weight to them. I’d argue Max’s 4 are equal to Ham’s “7”. Ham’s 7 at the same time are nowhere close to Schuamcher’s 7 which were as hard earned as Max’s.