Official: Alfa Romeo 4C

W/// · 10-01-2013, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GoingTooFast

It's official Kimi Raikkonen will leave Lotus and make a return to Ferrari in 2014.

Despite the fact that I was right about Felipe Massa leaving the Scuderia in the end of this season I was completely wrong with my bet on Kamui Kobayashi for his substitute.

Since I made a BIG deal out of it with constant kinda of off-topic references to that possibility on the two threads where I've extensively posted, it's now fair to acknowledge that I completely lost the right to a credible opinion in this forum about car motorsport, in particular, and cars in general.

I still believe Montezemolo made a wrong move with his choice but my opinion is now rendered worthless. Also, I probably will be wrong about many other statements I've made here. I guess I'm just a dreamer... and since you don't have to put up with my personal dreams I will shut up as I can't possibly rave about a car such as the BMW X1 although I made a promess to Red Bread that I would in case I loose my bet... I'm sorry man, but it's beyond my strength to say good things about a car such as the X1. Put it this way... at least you don't have to read my posts here anymore so much for your happiness!

Thank you all for your patience mainly the moderators because probably you were under some pressure from some users to shut me up... as you see, you did the right thing because I'll shut myself up. Nothing worth sharing now...

Fact:

1) That was a lie

GoingTooFast · 10-01-2013, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Bread

No kidding, the simple fact is that Alfa is on extremely thin ice reentering the US market and FIAT dealers were counting on Alfa sales and service to prop up their struggling dealerships. Now they're getting skipped and there are 69 Mazzer dealers in the US and over 200 FIAT dealers. Even with only 1,500 4C (which now looks comically optimistic) sales planned here, it's not hard to see that once again, the Italians are busy shooting themselves in the foot.

The fact is this still is only speculation. Therefore, I only can point out someone else's concern for the american potential buyer of the Alfa 4C:

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Having owned two Alfa, a 911, and several other driver focused cars, I welcome Alfas return to our shores. But I have to wonder whether this land of mammoth SUVs can appreciate it. I'm convinced people today buy sports cars for the prestige not for the driving. Our crowed roads and suburban living render driver cars meaningless. Will Alfa have the prestige to make it in this market?

Facts about Alfa 4C launch schedule worldwide:

And a view of the 'rudimentary' Alfa 4C's interior:

M3_WC · 10-01-2013, 04:03 PM

Yet another review knocking the cheap materials inside.

Autoblog

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While the exterior is nearly beyond any reproach the human brain can conjure up, the interior is disappointing in a few spots. The plastics, for one thing, while a little better than those of many recent Alfas, are strictly sub-par.

M3_WC · 10-01-2013, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GoingTooFast

And a view of the 'rudimentary' Alfa 4C's interior:

The fact that the interior is rudimentary can be overlooked.

It is the FACT the plastics are complete sh*t.

GoingTooFast · 10-01-2013, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by W///

Fact:

1) That was a lie

The fact is, it wasn't me who brought the thread back to life with new information worth sharing. Actually, my name was called upon to comment on it.

Red Bread · 10-01-2013, 04:20 PM

Nobody actually said it three times, Beetlejuice.

GoingTooFast · 10-01-2013, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by M3_WC

The fact that the interior is rudimentary can be overlooked.

It is the FACT the plastics are complete sh*t.

All I can tell you is I already was inside an Alfa 4C and my actual car is a BMW 1M and my previous car was a Porsche Cayman and finally my name is in a waiting list for an Alfa 4C.

GoingTooFast · 10-01-2013, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Bread

Nobody actually said it three times, Beetlejuice.

Why can't you stand away from my posts then?!

It's a fact that whatever the thread I post in here, there you are Stalker.

Red Bread · 10-01-2013, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GoingTooFast

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Originally Posted by Red Bread

Nobody actually said it three times, Beetlejuice.

Why can't you stand way from my posts then?!

It's a fact that whatever the thread I post in here, there you are Stalker.

I'm not complaining, but I'm not the one who packed up my bags and went home.

I'm curious about the 4C, but I'm pretty sure we're getting the shaft here in the US.

GoingTooFast · 10-01-2013, 06:20 PM

Red Bread: "Hey GTF...I know everything about you!"
GTF: "What are you talking about?"
Red Bread: "Go ahead...ask me any question"
GTF: "Dude..your really creepy."
Red Bread: "Yeah, well...YOU SHOULD BE SCARED OF ME!"
GTF: "FUCK OFF WIERDO!"
Red Bread: "But I love you!"
GTF: "Hey 1addicts forum... the user Red Bread is like a stalker!"

Red Bread · 10-01-2013, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoingTooFast

Red Bread: "Hey GTF...I know everything about you!"
GTF: "What are you talking about?"
Red Bread: "Go ahead...ask me any question"
GTF: "Dude..your really creepy."
Red Bread: "Yeah, well...YOU SHOULD BE SCARED OF ME!"
GTF: "FUCK OFF WIERDO!"
Red Bread: "But I love you!"
GTF: "Hey 1addicts forum... the user Red Bread is like a stalker!"

Only for you, everyone else is safe.

GoingTooFast · 10-01-2013, 06:58 PM

GoingTooFast · 10-02-2013, 10:48 AM

Looking at the following two lists of Nurburgring's (Nordschleife) lap times:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...eife_lap_times

http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/nordschleife.html

we can say for a fact that the Alfa 4C is the fastest and simultaneously the less powerful car with a trunk door (and enough DD practicality for many) around the N'ring on street legal R-compound tires (Pirelli PZeros Trofeo) in stock form. What about that one for an unamatched title among the whole car industry?!

Well... another fact is that the Alfa 4C with 180hp less is faster than a manual M3 E92 on Michelin Pilot Sport Cup + tires:

GoingTooFast · 10-02-2013, 12:29 PM

Ok... it's also a fact that the interior plastics of the M3 E92 are better quality than those from the Alfa 4C. The M3 wins there, it must be said... can an Alfa 4C owner live with that?!

GoingTooFast · 10-03-2013, 05:10 AM

M3_WC · 10-03-2013, 10:22 PM

^
Is it your goal to make me hate this car? Because that is what you are doing.

I am baffled as to what you are trying to accomplish in this thread.

johanness · 10-04-2013, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by M3_WC

^
Is it your goal to make me hate this car? Because that is what you are doing.

I am baffled as to what you are trying to accomplish in this thread.

Agreed - Especially after a fake promise to stfu.

Don't need your facts thanks

GoingTooFast · 10-04-2013, 05:55 PM

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Joachim Staat
Conclusion

Porsche says to the Alfa : "You toy . " The answer : "You cruisers . " I mean, they both are sports cars . The 4C with sweat and tingling skin , the Cayman with his second identity as Hamburg -Munich- Express.

GoingTooFast · 10-05-2013, 02:21 AM

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Alfa Romeo has confirmed that the new 4C will require a service every 20,000km (approximately 12,500 miles) or yearly, whichever is first. It had previously been rumoured that the new rear-engined sports car would require a service every 4,500 miles.

in Autocar

GoingTooFast · 10-05-2013, 01:54 PM

GoingTooFast · 10-05-2013, 02:13 PM

GoingTooFast · 10-07-2013, 02:57 PM

Some historical facts... past and present:

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GoingTooFast Banned 89 Rep 1,247 Posts Drives: fat cars are still boats Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: compensating a fat car with horsepower is like giving an alcoholic cocaine to sober him up. iTrader: (0)	Looking at the following two lists of Nurburgring's (Nordschleife) lap times: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...eife_lap_times http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/nordschleife.html we can say for a fact that the Alfa 4C is the fastest and simultaneously the less powerful car with a trunk door (and enough DD practicality for many) around the N'ring on street legal R-compound tires (Pirelli PZeros Trofeo) in stock form. What about that one for an unamatched title among the whole car industry?! Well... another fact is that the Alfa 4C with 180hp less is faster than a manual M3 E92 on Michelin Pilot Sport Cup + tires: Last edited by GoingTooFast; 10-02-2013 at 12:26 PM..
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