[yco]

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Engineer: Max won..
Lando: "A legend"

Nice to hear a positive from a decent driver than what was the usual dollop from the Merc two

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

More ..From the Top-3 and regarding the blistering..

Kudos to Sky for saying 'supreme' win and not the often used 'shock' win when someone else cuts in on the action.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

Kudos to Sky for saying 'supreme' win and not the often used 'shock' win when someone else cuts in on the action.

More...

[///M Power-Belgium]

MAX vs Bottas. A moment with pure suspense !

[rcracin]

Congrats to Max for a well driven race and RB for good strategy. He seems to have changed so much from past years. Good tire management, calm and cool, and decisive in his own right. Not just going along with everything the team says to do.

We’d be foolish to discount Merc finding a solution to their problems. They figured it out in 2018 after Austria.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

MAX vs Bottas. A moment with pure suspense !

I'm watching the channel 4 shot of that now seconds after watching your one.Wonder how Toto's fist is (contact with desk) after watching that

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

I'm watching the channel 4 shot of that now seconds after watching your one.Wonder how Toto's fist is (contact with desk) after watching that

Well my friend , I heard Toto 5H1T in his pants ...

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

I heard Toto 5H1T in his pants ...

I heard it better than you,I'm closer

[M5Rick]

[QUOTE=///M Power-Belgium;26542838]MAX vs Bottas. A moment with pure suspense !


A perfect end to a perfect day my friend. My BMW BTCC driver 'Turki' did well in the 3 races at Brands Hatch also to increase his lead to 16 points to the next one in the no.1 330i. Double smiles.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

I heard it better than you,I'm closer

Yeah my friend . The smell with the heat , it was not a gift....

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Yeah my friend . The smell with the heat , it was not a gift....

Max's quip with the 'sanitiser' should be heard by Wolff also

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

Max's quip with the 'sanitiser' should be heard by Wolff also

Very usefull in Toto's pants ...

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Very usefull in Toto's pants ...

While Toto's cleaning himself up haha I'm back in the pool now, we'll speak later my friend.

[msk340i]

Originally Posted by yco

It wasn't all silence. On the radio during the race he said: "it's in the gap that we didn't like. We spoke about it this morning. I'll hang in there, but you know you've messed up".

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

While Toto's cleaning himself up haha I'm back in the pool now, we'll speak later my friend.

Tomorrow my friend ..I have to leave for work very early at : 04:30 AM
Have fun my friend with a nice dive in your pool

This victory will give MAX a lot of confidence in the next races ...

[msk340i]

The post-race Sky Sport interview with Vettel clearly shows his feeling that his car different than Leclerc's. Sad what a team like Ferrari would do.

[yco]

Originally Posted by msk340i

The post-race Sky Sport interview with Vettel clearly shows his feeling that his car different than Leclerc's. Sad what a team like Ferrari would do.

but i cant see any reason why Ferrari d tweak his car to perform worse.. they need points for cons. championship anyway for example.. what Ferrari can profit out this?

[msk340i]

Originally Posted by yco

but i cant see any reason why Ferrari d tweak his car to perform worse.. they need points for cons. championship anyway for example.. what Ferrari can profit out this?

It's not all profit. They have to show the world (mostly idiots) that their decision to get rid of him is the coolest decision and Charles is outpacing him every race (although he didn't in Austria 2 qualy and in Hungary).
Martin Brundle is a very politically correct person so when he says: "How is foir time champion so far behind Leclerc when they're driving there same car" you know that he's insinuating that they're not driving there same car.
Elkann is a very proud mofo. Binotto is sneaky as a fox. They both think they have a plan to bring Ferrari back to glory and like old dumb Enzo they like to blame the driver not the car.
No denying Vettel committed serious mistakes but I blame him for not divorcing Ferrari sooner because it looks like the cars are good, we know he's good, but the relationship isn't working.
Why else would they place him where he specifically told them not to? He knows his pace and race conditions more than their pit wall clowns.

[bitterspeak]

Originally Posted by yco

but i cant see any reason why Ferrari d tweak his car to perform worse.. they need points for cons. championship anyway for example.. what Ferrari can profit out this?

There isn't enough evidence that Ferrari is tweaking Vettel's car to perform worse. Chances are, they just built a terrible 2020 car. With Vettel on his way out, Ferrari is definitely catering the better strategies and upgrades to Leclerc in all situations which would result in Vettel doing worse overall. This has been a Ferrari trademark for a while and this is nothing new to me.

Like you said, Ferrari doesn't stand to benefit from this but from a championship standpoint, I feel like they've already conceded that they're not in any title hunt for either championships.

While they want to get as many points as possible, I think they're just eagerly waiting for this Vettel/Ferrari divorce to be over with.

[msk340i]

I don't understand how pitting to change 11 lap old hards to go 18 laps on mediums not intentionally sabotaging Vettel's race? Yes, he spun. But he could've had a good come back if they didn't fuck up.

And what Vettel said about the team not having the courage to let Leclerc pass him although they were on different strategies shows how little trust the team has in Vettel and him in them.

[yco]

Originally Posted by msk340i

I don't understand how pitting to change 11 lap old hards to go 18 laps on mediums not intentionally sabotaging Vettel's race? Yes, he spun. But he could've had a good come back if they didn't fuck up.

And what Vettel said about the team not having the courage to let Leclerc pass him although they were on different strategies shows how little trust the team has in Vettel and him in them.

i dont remember where he was at that time but maybe for taking him out of traffic or there were some vibrations because he probably cooked his tires at that spin.. there are still some more races to come.. i want Vettel to perform much better than this believe me.. in last 2 years its always something but not Vettel can be the source of the problem.. i dont like this at all.. drivers can have ups and downs but i really dont think Ferrari is loosening some bolts on his car.. Ferrari doesnt want him and Vettel wants to leave.. not much options for him as well at this time, otherwise donno Ferrari might think to break his price for next year but its not like this and Ferrari has money.. and at the same if they want they can swap to a reserved driver as well.. Gio is busy but Pascal Wehrlein is available for such a change.. racing with such results not helping each side anyway..

besides i believe Vettel's decision was made last year already that im not sure there are not much people to be convinced about the decision.. i cant tell anything about the internal dynamics of Ferrari these days but Binotto is a part of Ferrari like 20-25 years as far as i remember.. maybe less or more but internal bigheads of Ferrari really do trust him.. not sure he is the best guy for this job and i have no idea who else already in Ferrari can do a better job than him.. 1 or 2 max more races later if things wont go north if i were Vettel i d stop racing for Ferrari this season.. take some time off relax refresh and start racing again with a new team..he wont miss a whole year actually its already 8th month of the year new season will start on March again probably.. before the race at the grid idk if you ve seen Vettel but his eyes were frozen.. staring to emptiness in some other world.. like depression eyes.. and its a sad picture to see..