[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

…it is annoying how I can gross $12k in a two week pay period and the government takes half.

Are you hiring? I don't gross a third of that amount every two weeks, and there's certainly no shiny new Porsche in my driveway.....

[gatorfast]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I'm just venting, but….

…it is annoying how I can gross $12k in a two week pay period and the government takes half. Taxation is a racket. Sometimes I think it pays more to make less money. I'm already diverting the maximum into my deferred compensation and even with that considered I get no break during tax season. How are you guys/gals navigating the tax space?

Cops earn $300k+? I thought it was a fraction of that, nuts.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

Are you hiring? I don't gross a third of that amount every two weeks, and there's certainly no shiny new Porsche in my driveway.....

We are always hiring, but even the money isn't enough to attract new officers/deputies. It also depends on the state you live in. I think California cops earn more than our brethren in every other state, but many other states offer a lower cost of living and taxation is less intrusive. I think New York police officers should be paid more. They are paid horribly considering the cost of living in New York State. The last I checked, their base pay was sub-$50k annually. Crazy!!!

Originally Posted by gatorfast

Cops earn $300k+? I thought it was a fraction of that, nuts.

Well there is overtime tied into it, but my base is well into the six figures. Add the overtime (…which is damn near perpetual at this point considering staffing shortages) and you can tap into the $200k+ range really easily….


….and that's before there are any chevrons on your sleeve or bars on your collar. There is less overtime for supervisory staff, however. I gross anywhere between $16k-24k a month depending on how much overtime I work. I'm already at $106k so far and we're only at the halfway point in the year. That said, I know many of you make significantly more than I do.

[///d]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

We are always hiring, but even the money isn't enough to attract new officers/deputies. It also depends on the state you live in. I think California cops earn more than our brethren in every other state, but many other states offer a lower cost of living and taxation is less intrusive. I think New York police officers should be paid more. They are paid horribly considering the cost of living in New York State. The last I checked, their base pay was sub-$50k annually. Crazy!!!




Well there is overtime tied into it, but my base is well into the six figures. Add the overtime (…which is damn near perpetual at this point considering staffing shortages) and you can tap into the $200k+ range really easily….


….and that's before there are any chevrons on your sleeve or bars on your collar. There is less overtime for supervisory staff, however. I gross anywhere between $16k-24k a month depending on how much overtime I work. I'm already at $106k so far and we're only at the halfway point in the year. That said, I know many of you make significantly more than I do.

Yeah but you gotta move to Cali or big cities for that

Recent articles report Minneapolis starting at 73k annual. I dont know if you could pay me enough to work that shit show though.

[jamesinaz]

Even assuming I was still young enough to be a cop, there is no way I could take the abuse given them in today's world. IMO many people need a good beating after their actions as a reminder that it was a bad thing they did.

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

We are always hiring, but even the money isn't enough to attract new officers/deputies. It also depends on the state you live in.

There was a news article today in our regional news about an upstate county shipping their remaining ICE detainees out to another prison/jail. The county had a lucrative contract with the feds to house detainees in their excess jail capacity, but are so short-staffed that they cannot operate the jail at full capacity any more. The last civil service exam provided 8 new deputies, and they are still 29 people short to fill all of their open positions.....

[///d]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

…it is annoying how I can gross $12k in a two week pay period and the government takes half.

How are you guys/gals navigating the tax space?

MN is just as bad. I'm navigating this by trying to move out of MN. Unfortunately the places I want to move (mountains) are the same places everyone from the west coast who is sick of high taxes and the related is moving to in an attempt to escape those things, but then still vote for the same crap.

Originally Posted by jamesinaz

Even assuming I was still young enough to be a cop, there is no way I could take the abuse given them in today's world. IMO many people need a good beating after their actions as a reminder that it was a bad thing they did.

A good friend of mine is an officer in Mesa. He keeps trying to get me to move down and go to the academy and be an officer with him. I've heard his stories, no thanks.

[jamesinaz]

Originally Posted by ///d

A good friend of mine is an officer in Mesa. He keeps trying to get me to move down and go to the academy and be an officer with him. I've heard his stories, no thanks.

I live north of Mesa. About 25 miles. A world of difference and still Meas isn't that bad IMO. Not compared to some of the blue cities.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by ///d

MN is just as bad. I'm navigating this by trying to move out of MN. Unfortunately the places I want to move (mountains) are the same places everyone from the west coast who is sick of high taxes and the related is moving to in an attempt to escape those things, but then still vote for the same crap.

A good friend of mine is an officer in Mesa. He keeps trying to get me to move down and go to the academy and be an officer with him. I've heard his stories, no thanks.

….and therein lies the rub. It's absurdity! People move from places like California and bring their silly voting practices with them, effectively turning the new place into California all over again.

[Sedan_Clan]

A person should be vetted coming from places like California. If you aren't registered Independent or Republican, you shouldn't be able move from a blue state to a red state (…and your voting history should be verified; you must be a multiple gun owner too).

[UncleWede]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Independent

Not so fast there. They should be Decline to state. Independent is an actual party affiliation. No party-line voting.

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

A person should be vetted coming from places like California. If you aren't registered Independent or Republican, you shouldn't be able move from a blue state to a red state (…and your voting history should be verified; you must be a multiple gun owner too).

Try owning a tree farm in South Carolina and visiting with New York license plates. You are instantly labeled a DAMN YANKEE before you can even introduce yourself!

Remember, this damn yankee had to stop a local good 'ol boy from shooting his foot with an AR-15 over the Memorial Day weekend when he saw a snake cross our path and panicked, and get schooled by that same damn yankee about why the proper tool for that job is snake shot in a pistol.....

[paquet]

pfffh the proper tool is napalm

[Watching The World Burn]

Originally Posted by packet

pfffh the proper tool is napalm

And this is why I'm hesitant to live in America.

Fricking snakes. Hate them

[paquet]

Originally Posted by Watching The World Burn

And this is why I'm hesitant to live in America.

Fricking snakes. Hate them

Agree 100% on hating the horrid things.
but eh could be way the fuck worse - could be Australia.

It depends where you are in North America - they're (almost) everywhere or nowhere. Ontario for instance, has none.
Haven't seen one in FL for a year now (not complaining)

[jamesinaz]

Meh. Snakes no are big deal. I had a 6 foot diamondback in my garage once that surprised the heck out of me. Coiled up behind a shovel he wasn't very big. Once I started evicting him I realized how big he really was. And he was angry. Funny part is he point of refuge behind a shovel. A shovel being the ideal tool for killing a snake.



I found this little guy in the house. Still not sure how he got in (I have a theory and have sealed that up) but hmmm. I was watching a ball game and our big cat (aka the hunter) began sniffing at a decorative piece of furniture. I figured scorpion cause they love those. So in between innings I grabbed a shoe and picked up the furniture item (which I wish had a name). Cat was VERY excited.

Lucky for it I found it or snake guts and blood would have been everywhere. Wife wanted to call the fire department cause they will remove snakes for you. I'm like what? It's a foot long King Snake. A good guy that can't hurt a human. When I tried to pick it up it remained docile and didn't bite or try to escape. I put him outside and hope he is still around cause they eat rattlesnakes - when they grow up. LOL

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by packet

It depends where you are in North America - they're (almost) everywhere or nowhere. Ontario for instance, has none.
Haven't seen one in FL for a year now (not complaining)

Funny family story, ironically from the low country of SC many years ago. I had some relatives take a, ummm, off-course excursion into a swamp while driving on I-95. A nice passing Marine saw the incident, and stopped to help them. He offered to carry one of the women from the car to dry ground. She told him that she was able to walk. He told her that there were water moccasins in that area. She replied that she didn't mind getting her feet wet, thinking that he was talking about shoes. When he told her what a water moccasin was, she screamed "Snake!?!?!" and jumped into his arms to be carried!

Although I'm a damn yankee with the NY license plates to prove it, my neighbors on two sides are hundreds of acres of wooded county parkland and 7,000+ acres of state forest. Bear and deer visits are not unusual, and there's black snakes all over the place here that will stretch completely across the asphalt road on chilly days to sun themselves and warm up. Not saying that I like snakes, because I don't! My experience is that they will generally leave you alone if you leave them alone.....

[Boomer 2019]

1ft and 6ft ehh? Piffel! Now this is a snake. 18ft 9in of Big Momma Burmese Python captured in the glades west of Miami. And they can get even larger than this. They are overrunning South Florida, and eating everything in sight. I have seen about a dozen or more over the years, and even ran one over accidently (not this large). I still feel bad about it. See what you have to look forward to Packet.

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by packet

Agree 100% on hating the horrid things.
but eh could be way the fuck worse - could be Australia.

It depends where you are in North America - they're (almost) everywhere or nowhere. Ontario for instance, has none.
Haven't seen one in FL for a year now (not complaining)

Ontario has lots of snakes. The Massassauga Rattle Snake is pretty common in the Georgian Bay area. When I was living in Tobermory we'd get a few bites every summer. Generally didn't administer anti-venom because the reaction to that was often worse than the bite. https://www.ontario.ca/page/massasauga-rattlesnake

[jamesinaz]

Originally Posted by Boomer 2019

1ft and 6ft ehh? Piffel! Now this is a snake. 18ft 9in of Big Momma Burmese Python captured in the glades west of Miami. And they can get even larger than this. They are overrunning South Florida, and eating everything in sight. I have seen about a dozen or more over the years, and even ran one over accidently (not this large). I still feel bad about it. See what you have to look forward to Packet.

Love it. Seen them in Thailand. While they don't really want to mess with humans (like rattlesnakes) they do send a chill down your back if you see one up close.

Scariest snake I ever saw was a King Cobra. I would guess it was 12 to 15 feel and thick around as my arm. I am standing on a golf course waiting to hit into a par 5. My buddy and I are walking and our partners are two elderly (70s) British guys in a golf cart waiting 40 feet away in the middle of the fairway. Suddenly, both caddies standing on the back jump off and run away screaming. The two guys in the cart stay frozen as the Cobra slithers up and over the first guys lap, then onto the second guys lap, and down onto the ground and leaves.

No one was hurt but goddamn that was a scary thing. It disappears into the jungle the poor Brits stagger out of the cart and I'm afraid they are going to have heart failure. But, stiff upper lip and all they finished the hole (it was 18). Mind you they both 3 putted and were shaking. I think one changed his flight and left Thailand early. I know both changed their tighty whities after the round.

[paquet]

fuck - i had to turn the images off - i hate snakes.
and Murf the Surf , i didn't know the reaction was worse.
lighter in one hand, fuel hose in another, looking at the tree line, waiting for charlie....

[zx10guy]

The defund the police idiots should be made to watch this video along with being required to do a ride along with a cop. The author, Sean "Buck" Rogers, of the video is a former Green Beret who's done action in Afghanistan and is a former Denver police officer. He quit because of all the defund the police stupidity along with all the in fashion disrespect of the police.