H&R Lowering Springs With Adaptive Suspension

F82FTW · 08-02-2014, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jc05e46m3

Definitely. I don't mind rolling monster truck status for a while to save myself $400

Monster truck status, nice!

jc05e46m3 · 08-02-2014, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by F82FTW

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Originally Posted by jc05e46m3

Definitely. I don't mind rolling monster truck status for a while to save myself $400

Monster truck status, nice!

Funny how hypocritical we can all get considering I picked up one of the 3 sets of the M4 specific H&Rs these that tom@EAS had...

. Loll

Jorgem2009 · 08-08-2014, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jc05e46m3

Funny how hypocritical we can all get considering I picked up one of the 3 sets of the M4 specific H&Rs these that tom@EAS had...

. Loll

how much are they running for? how much of a drop did you do?

jc05e46m3 · 08-08-2014, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jorgem2009

how much are they running for? how much of a drop did you do?

Contact Tom@eas for pricing! It's 1.3f/1.2r drop.

RingMeister01 · 08-09-2014, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jc05e46m3

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Originally Posted by 4/3rds

Please explain to me the difference. H&R springs vs KW? with the adaptive suspension.

So H&R makes a great product, no doubt. I had their sport springs on my E46. I ended up getting the KW coilovers for my E92 because not only did it handle way better (and give me adjustability), but it also had an EDC option to retain the EDC functionality. I had EDC on the E92 and also ordered the Adaptive suspension this time around so it's a safe assumption that KW will come out with that on this model as well.

You're actually wrong. KW (or any other coilover) does not work in tandem with the factory EDC or the new Adaptive Suspension. The KW module takes place of EDC. Which means the programming is a KW calibration NOT BMW. It's a cool idea by KW but it isn't factory developed or even close as good.

OP, don't buy into this. Either get a set of springs to improve the look of the car or get a set of coilovers (non-electronic module) for better performance.

FTS · 08-09-2014, 08:26 AM

Does anyone have the adaptive shocks dyno plots by any chance? I just cannot imagine how any shock can properly or even adequately perform with 1.2+ inch less shock travel

absoluteis350 · 09-26-2014, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by FTS

Does anyone have the adaptive shocks dyno plots by any chance? I just cannot imagine how any shock can properly or even adequately perform with 1.2+ inch less shock travel

:chirp: :chirp: crickets.
Looks like someone asked an intelligent question and hushed everyone up ?

dmk08 · 09-26-2014, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jc05e46m3

So H&R makes a great product, no doubt. I had their sport springs on my E46. I ended up getting the KW coilovers for my E92 because not only did it handle way better (and give me adjustability), but it also had an EDC option to retain the EDC functionality. I had EDC on the E92 and also ordered the Adaptive suspension this time around so it's a safe assumption that KW will come out with that on this model as well.

Uhm I had KW V3 on my E92 and they don't still adjust stiffness w/ EDC. At least mine didn't? They just have modules so the EDC system doesn't error out. I didn't use the modules just had mine coded out.

htran797 · 09-26-2014, 02:29 PM

Anyone on this forum have the h&r super sport spring install on their f82?

TrevorM3 · 09-26-2014, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveSpy

That's different. They are doing, not a third party. If it comes from the factory with that type of upgrade I'm all for it.

right, because everything the factory does is perfect.

get off your high horse.

Andrew115 · 09-26-2014, 07:55 PM

While I love the look lowered a bit I can't stand worrying about clearance issues. I am OCD enough about parking to avoid dings and idiots. To throw in worrying about rubbing when going to new places or seeing obstacles that are questionable and unavoidable..... No thanks. I'll just admire your car as it drives by. Can't see mine going down the road while driving anyway.

Not saying anyone is wrong here just can't understand how you all manage it daily. Maybe my perception is off and lowering isn't an issue in your area. In my day to day it is. Otherwise I would be here waiting with you all.

nizer · 10-29-2014, 03:17 PM

Been driving an F80 for a month. Still no track time but pretty clear to me the car is undersprung given its weight. That said, nobody seems to have done much real work yet in terms of sorting real options. H&R doesn't publish spring rates so basically I guess people are buying on how slammed they want their car to look. Dinan, who seem to put a little more effort into developing a complete package, have nothing on their website and won't return emails or calls (how do these guys stay in business?).

I'm sitting on the sidelines for now until we see some real data.

Greg FEightytwo · 10-29-2014, 04:58 PM

i know a few local people with f80 and f82 H&R springs. They love the ride quality. They have EDC same as my car will have. I bought a set for my M4 when it gets here in Dec. The look is amazing with the 15mm rear spacer and 12mm spacers they are running. I also know they are adjusting the alignment settings in addition to lowering the car and extending the track width.

If you are going to do coils wait for Ohlins to come out with their line up. The entry level is about 3500.00 and go all the way up to 7000.00.

XPNY · 10-30-2014, 11:39 PM

Looks great but way too much bounce and compared to factory ride, they suck. Love the flat cornering with factory suspension. Ima jus end up tossing the H&Rs and probably go with a KW Coilover set up. Jus MY opinion Tho

bluekn8286 · 11-01-2014, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveSpy

I said it before and I'll say it again. The car is perfect, why mess with perfection?

This!!! x100000000!! Don't mess with the stock setup! Those engineers spent years getting the chassis and suspension to work in harmony; getting springs is just going to throw that all off!

bluekn8286 · 11-01-2014, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FTS

Does anyone have the adaptive shocks dyno plots by any chance? I just cannot imagine how any shock can properly or even adequately perform with 1.2+ inch less shock travel

Very intelligent question that has yet to be answered! I also can't imagine how having less shock travel will make the car perform better.

Greg FEightytwo · 11-01-2014, 03:02 PM

I drove two m4s same day. One with springs one without it. I don't believe it improves anything but the look with the wheel gap being removed from the height of the new spring. I didn't feel a difference in ride quality throughout the change in settings for edc. The only improvement I felt was the change in the alignment for more camber, the spacers providing a wider track width and a little more grip in turns. I bought the same stuff for my car when it gets here. KW came out with a kit that includes camber plates already on the coils. That might be the solution if you don't like the springs

Mik3ymomo · 11-24-2014, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by accce

How can you say that lowering the car will magically improve the handling of a car. If it were that simple don't you think BMW would sell springs in its performance parts catalog?

I bet you have a big wing on the back of your car to go faster also.

Is this your car?

Mandi90TT · 11-24-2014, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mik3ymomo

...pointless image...

It's time to not get so worked up about posts from 5 months ago.

Mik3ymomo · 11-25-2014, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave 90TT

It's time to not get so worked up about posts from 5 months ago.

Thank you for setting me straight.

stealth-twntrbo · 11-30-2014, 10:27 AM

Can you use the h r sport srping with adaptaive suspension or will it not fit/work?
I mainly just want the springs for a better ride height appearence im not going to track the car.

Greg FEightytwo · 11-30-2014, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by stealth-twntrbo

Can you use the h r sport srping with adaptaive suspension or will it not fit/work?
I mainly just want the springs for a better ride height appearence im not going to track the car.

Yes they work with edc.

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htran797 New Member 0 Rep 12 Posts Drives: f82,is350, e46 m3 sold Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: san jose, ca iTrader: (0)	Anyone on this forum have the h&r super sport spring install on their f82?
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Andrew115 Major 328 Rep 1,450 Posts Drives: Silver Bullet Join Date: May 2013 Location: Charlotte NC iTrader: (0)	While I love the look lowered a bit I can't stand worrying about clearance issues. I am OCD enough about parking to avoid dings and idiots. To throw in worrying about rubbing when going to new places or seeing obstacles that are questionable and unavoidable..... No thanks. I'll just admire your car as it drives by. Can't see mine going down the road while driving anyway. Not saying anyone is wrong here just can't understand how you all manage it daily. Maybe my perception is off and lowering isn't an issue in your area. In my day to day it is. Otherwise I would be here waiting with you all.
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nizer New Member 7 Rep 24 Posts Drives: F80 M3 Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Northeast iTrader: (0)	Been driving an F80 for a month. Still no track time but pretty clear to me the car is undersprung given its weight. That said, nobody seems to have done much real work yet in terms of sorting real options. H&R doesn't publish spring rates so basically I guess people are buying on how slammed they want their car to look. Dinan, who seem to put a little more effort into developing a complete package, have nothing on their website and won't return emails or calls (how do these guys stay in business?). I'm sitting on the sidelines for now until we see some real data.
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Greg FEightytwo Major 1314 Rep 1,183 Posts Drives: BMW GT4 M4 and X5M Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Nor Cal iTrader: (2)	i know a few local people with f80 and f82 H&R springs. They love the ride quality. They have EDC same as my car will have. I bought a set for my M4 when it gets here in Dec. The look is amazing with the 15mm rear spacer and 12mm spacers they are running. I also know they are adjusting the alignment settings in addition to lowering the car and extending the track width. If you are going to do coils wait for Ohlins to come out with their line up. The entry level is about 3500.00 and go all the way up to 7000.00.
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