BMW Announces Quad Turbo Diesel 6 Cylinder Engine, Good For 394 HP / 561 LB-FT

GuidoK · 05-01-2016, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by brad850csi

it would be cool to see a 650d or M650d come out next

I think it would be nice to see a M250d

UltimateManga · 05-01-2016, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SimonJNB

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

No.
It will be introduced on the all new M550d xDrive

Will it be available this year still?

Will be available in all models during 2016 starting with the 7 series then filtering through the X models! Also as for reliability there shouldn't be any problems as current engines have had no major issues and 4 turbos is a step forward so everybody can rest assured all is good

Russkey · 05-01-2016, 04:26 PM

Impressive

VCP · 05-01-2016, 05:34 PM

4 series gran coupe Xdrive with this heart please!

Bx Tpr · 05-01-2016, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle B

No thanks. The only I6 from BMW that interests me is the naturally aspirated kind. Anything else from them seems to be a reliability coin-toss that more often than not lands on 'tails'. Whatever happened to BMW producing a car that you could depend on AFTER the warranty period?

I'm glad BMW has gone the turbo route. Keeps me from ever considering another BMW and saves me money

goj · 05-01-2016, 07:04 PM

Can I add 3 turbos to my B58?

Cuz5150 · 05-01-2016, 08:05 PM

This is gonna sound crazy, but BMW needs to sell this engine to Ram trucks. I would love to have this engine in a Ram eco diesel. The current Fiat diesel engine is such garbage.
Seriously, is BMW getting in to pick-up production? Missed that memo.
394HP and 561 LB-TB belong under the hood of a 1500 pickup truck

:conf used2

blisstik · 05-01-2016, 08:23 PM

Two twinscroll turbos or are they 4 physical turbos?

Ray knight · 05-01-2016, 08:30 PM

man i would be all over a 3,5 or X5 with this engine. i love the diesel in my x5 35d with recechip. its awesome. and this has to be way more powerful.

Chihuahua · 05-01-2016, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by UltimateManga

Also as for reliability there shouldn't be any problems as current engines have had no major issues and 4 turbos is a step forward so everybody can rest assured all is good

You must be joking. I see you're from the UK. Please google "N47 timing chain".

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Originally Posted by Bx Tpr

I'm glad BMW has gone the turbo route. Keeps me from ever considering another BMW and saves me money

LOL, good one.

Eddien123 · 05-01-2016, 09:58 PM

Just imagine the turbo whistle after going cat less

kyleb350 · 05-02-2016, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by N & M

All that complexity for a few more horses and few more lbs/ft?

I somehow expected power north of 400 and torque above 650.

Article says the engine is capable of more but is limited to the transmission torque limit. Who knows what this could put out with a beefier trans?

X3paul · 05-02-2016, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by VCP

4 series gran coupe Xdrive with this heart please!

The grand coup 4 doesnt need a new engine. Needs new steering, lower weight and a better ride.

sward · 05-02-2016, 03:18 AM

Am I doing the calculation right if i get it to 400 Metric HP and 760 nm?

ChuckAWDM2 · 05-02-2016, 03:21 AM

Nice

qdtjant · 05-02-2016, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sward

Am I doing the calculation right if i get it to 400 Metric HP and 760 nm?

Yes you are, according to Bimmertoday.
Just wonder when it will be released ?
I am waiting for the G31 M550d.

And what is M550e, SCOTT26 mentioned in a post ?
Only for the US ?

UltimateManga · 05-02-2016, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle B

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Originally Posted by UltimateManga

Also as for reliability there shouldn't be any problems as current engines have had no major issues and 4 turbos is a step forward so everybody can rest assured all is good

You must be joking. I see you're from the UK. Please google "N47 timing chain".

Problems with the N47 as you refer to is the 4 cylinder Diesel engines but as for the 6 cylinder engines there bullet proof! I've done many hundreds of thousands of miles without a single problem so don't see any worries.

SeG9n7Rf58pagQt3 · 05-02-2016, 04:53 AM

350d

trey100 · 05-02-2016, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ahfa1987

Seems to me that diesel engine is the new evolution of a "fast car".. Correct me if Im wrong but the majority of diesel cars always have crazy torque. When accelerating and "drag racing", that would obviously beat a petrol engine with similar hp while we havea lower torque right? I thought petrol engines have a bigger explosive effect

Not at all. Diesels do not rev high and as a result, have longer gearing. The net result is less torque.

Don't confuse or rather compare these peak numbers with another engine without looking at the verbal curve and gearing.

.BMW. · 05-02-2016, 07:06 AM

I think this progress is logical!

Like most projects within the automotive industry today, this is probably driven by cost reduction.

BMW already has 3 cyl 1.5l and 6 cyl 3.0l diesel engines in production. These engines, together with the 4 cylinder versions already share many common parts.

When they now developed a new high power output model of the 6 cylinder version they basically developed two parallell dual-stage turbocharging systems (i.e. cyl 1-3 feeds one small and large turbine and cyl 4-6 feeds the other two).

It's nothing strange that a system with 4 turbochargers that can be used on different engines (with higher volumes) will be cheaper in total than a system with 3 turbochargers for one single engine (with relatively low volumes).

I would expect that we will see a 3 cyl 1.5l diesel producing 200 hp and 400 Nm, or more, in the next 3 Series or maybe already in the next 5 Series (G30).

The development have already been done, but for the 6 cylinder version!

mkoesel · 05-02-2016, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

They are also looking at the possibility of an X3/X4 model using this engine.

That would be a beast. A little smack in the face to the SQ5 (the diesel, non-US model I mean). Obviously Audi is not going to (not able to) put their V8 in any Q5.

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The US will get the M Performance PHEV M550e.

Don't you mean "M550e iPerformance M Performance"? Since all plug-in vehicles are branded "iPerformance" now.

keanu1 · 05-02-2016, 08:07 AM

Quad turbo or not, bmw is losing it in terms of refinment, design, fit and finish to audi and mercedes.

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