F1 2022: Dutch GP - Zandvoort (Sep 4)

M5Rick · 09-01-2022, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Robin_NL

On topic.

Cheers
Robin

That's Kelly's dad!

Robin_NL · 09-01-2022, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

That's Kelly's dad!

Formerly known as Three times F1 world Champion Nelson Piquet.

Cheers
Robin

Bubbles · 09-01-2022, 12:09 PM

Anyone notice how the FIA President chases photos with pilots?

He cornered Sir Lewis after qually and yelled to Officer Max Emilian Verstappen post race.

Strange referee.

Is it true, Jos Verstappen zit met Covid-19 thuis op de bank?

Killed by Death · 09-01-2022, 01:16 PM

Why Ferrari WILL BE STRONG At Dutch GP

M5Rick · 09-01-2022, 01:59 PM

They can try but

NYG · 09-01-2022, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubbles

Anyone notice how the FIA President chases photos with pilots?

He cornered Sir Lewis after qually and yelled to Officer Max Emilian Verstappen post race.

Strange referee.

Is it true, Jos Verstappen zit met Covid-19 thuis op de bank?

All hail Officer Verstappen

M5Rick · 09-01-2022, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NYG

All hail Officer Verstappen

An officer, a gentleman and a real World Champion.

///M Power-Belgium · 09-01-2022, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubbles

Anyone notice how the FIA President chases photos with pilots?

He cornered Sir Lewis after qually and yelled to Officer Max Emilian Verstappen post race.

Strange referee.

Is it true, Jos Verstappen zit met Covid-19 thuis op de bank?

True , I heard it yesterday . Jos Verstappen got a COVID infection .

Further he said : Damn ! Next weekend It's Zandvoort and now I must watch the race on TV !

Damn COVID !
I mean , I can know what it is !

I wish Jos a speedy recovery ...

Bubbles · 09-01-2022, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

True , I heard it yesterday . Jos Verstappen got a COVID infection .

Further he said : Damn ! Next weekend It's Zandvoort and now I must watch the race on TV !

Damn COVID !
I mean , I can know what it is !

I wish Jos a speedy recovery ...

I knew you would have the information. Bad timing.

Bubbles · 09-01-2022, 11:01 PM

Circuit Park Zandvoort
Route length: 4.259 kilometers

Number of curves: 14 (4 left, 10 right)

Number of rounds: 72

Total distance: 306.648 km

Pirelli tires: C1, C2, C3

Distance pole to first braking zone: 247 meters

Pit lane length under speed limit: 235 meters (~14 seconds). At 210 meters it is the shortest pit lane on the calendar. At the prescribed speed of 60 km/h, it takes just 12.6 seconds to drive through.

Lap record (race): 1m 11.097s (Hamilton, 2021)

Top speed: 328 km/h

Car setup

There are technically demanding sequences that require mechanical grip. Like Turns 3, 11 and 12. Here you need traction from the slow corners. The many fast corners require downforce.

A compromise of medium to high level of downforce with larger wings than last time at Spa-Francorchamps. The cars must not be too low for the laps in the dunes because the asphalt isn't flat. For example, there is a nasty bump in the area around turn 6 (Rob-Slotemaker-Bocht).

Pirelli supplies the hardest mixtures (C1-C2-C3). At a minimum, teams must inflate the front tire to 23.5 psi. A minimum of 21.5 psi is required for the rear.
Most will use to a one-stop strategy.

There aren't long straights in Zandvoort. In order to increase the chance of overtaking manoeuvres, the FIA wants to try out in free practice on Friday this year whether the DRS can already be released in the banked target curve so that pursuers can catch opponents over a longer distance.

Last year FIA did did not take this risk of a longer DRS zone. The DRS zone only began on the home stretch.

M5Rick · 09-02-2022, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by NYG

All hail Officer Verstappen

Max was knighted by the Minister of Sport Connie Helder in Amsterdam.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/13110...s-touched.html

///M Power-Belgium · 09-02-2022, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubbles

I knew you would have the information. Bad timing.

Yeah , It's really bad timing . I know it already 2 days ..Too bad for Jos !

Jos Verstappen :

I don't want to put MAX in danger !

The Dutch article => https://f1journaal.be/jos-verstappen...evaar-brengen/

///M Power-Belgium · 09-02-2022, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

Max was knighted by the Minister of Sport Connie Helder in Amsterdam.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/13110...s-touched.html

The Zandvoort trophy

M5Rick · 09-02-2022, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

The Zandvoort trophy

It would be so fitting for Max to get his 30th win at Zandvoort coinciding with his knighting Honour.

///M Power-Belgium · 09-02-2022, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

It would be so fitting for Max to get his 30th win at Zandvoort coinciding with his knighting Honour.

It was like SPA was made for the RB18 ...
SPA was low downforce and extremely fast at the long straights !

Zandvoort is completely otherwise .Zandvoort is a high downforce track .

By the Zandvoort high dowforce setup , Ferrari and Mercedes will be faster than at SPA .

One thing is for sure : MAX is ready for the fight !

GuidoK · 09-02-2022, 06:42 AM

Oops, broken gearbox for Max.
Being FP1 I expect this is an old gearbox, not one that was prepped for race.

M5Rick · 09-02-2022, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GuidoK

Oops, broken gearbox for Max.
Being FP1 I expect this is an old gearbox, not one that was prepped for race.

I believe it was a very worn gearbox for the Friday practice 'knock about'.

Robin_NL · 09-02-2022, 07:41 AM

Let's hope so. 'Box, box, box' feels so not right

Cheers
Robin

NYG · 09-02-2022, 09:37 AM

Prediction: Max wins from pit lane.

lens · 09-02-2022, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by NYG

Prediction: Max wins from pit lane.

They used a very worn out practice gearbox (every team uses a spare gearbox for practice only, then switch to main gearbox for quali+race)

So no penalty, and he should be out and about in FP2.

I think Mercedes may be able to snatch some points from Ferrari this race, I think they might be able to end up P3-P4, maybe P2-P3 if Perez isn't looking good for race pace, but realistically P3-P4 for Mercedes.

NYG · 09-02-2022, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by chaungo

They used a very worn out practice gearbox (every team uses a spare gearbox for practice only, then switch to main gearbox for quali+race)

So no penalty, and he should be out and about in FP2.

I think Mercedes may be able to snatch some points from Ferrari this race, I think they might be able to end up P3-P4, maybe P2-P3 if Perez isn't looking good for race pace, but realistically P3-P4 for Mercedes.

They do look strong in FP1 but let's see.

Robin_NL send me some stroopwafels.

lens · 09-02-2022, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by NYG

They do look strong in FP1 but let's see.

Robin_NL send me some stroopwafels.

Looks like some work will be done overnight at RB to get the setup right, they essentially skipped quali pace and went straight to race pace on softs.

But considering Max only had 7 laps in FP1 vs other teams 30+, I think FP3 and qualifying will be different.

Both Mercedes and Ferrari looks strong on this circuit but it's a high downforce track so it's to be expected.

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Bubbles Brigadier General 2827 Rep 4,445 Posts Drives: Green Bastard Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bishop Bend iTrader: (3)	Track information and setup Circuit Park Zandvoort Route length: 4.259 kilometers Number of curves: 14 (4 left, 10 right) Number of rounds: 72 Total distance: 306.648 km Pirelli tires: C1, C2, C3 Distance pole to first braking zone: 247 meters Pit lane length under speed limit: 235 meters (~14 seconds). At 210 meters it is the shortest pit lane on the calendar. At the prescribed speed of 60 km/h, it takes just 12.6 seconds to drive through. Lap record (race): 1m 11.097s (Hamilton, 2021) Top speed: 328 km/h Car setup There are technically demanding sequences that require mechanical grip. Like Turns 3, 11 and 12. Here you need traction from the slow corners. The many fast corners require downforce. A compromise of medium to high level of downforce with larger wings than last time at Spa-Francorchamps. The cars must not be too low for the laps in the dunes because the asphalt isn't flat. For example, there is a nasty bump in the area around turn 6 (Rob-Slotemaker-Bocht). Pirelli supplies the hardest mixtures (C1-C2-C3). At a minimum, teams must inflate the front tire to 23.5 psi. A minimum of 21.5 psi is required for the rear. Most will use to a one-stop strategy. There aren't long straights in Zandvoort. In order to increase the chance of overtaking manoeuvres, the FIA wants to try out in free practice on Friday this year whether the DRS can already be released in the banked target curve so that pursuers can catch opponents over a longer distance. Last year FIA did did not take this risk of a longer DRS zone. The DRS zone only began on the home stretch. Attached Images __________________ Last edited by Bubbles; 09-02-2022 at 12:44 AM..
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