[paulockenden]

Originally Posted by boupas

Built July 2025. I believe it may depend on the trim.

In the future? Does it have a flux capacitor?

Seriously though, I suspect you probably got one of the last ones with data. I’ve not heard of anyone with a car built after August that has data, whatever the options.

[boupas]

Originally Posted by paulockenden

In the future? Does it have a flux capacitor?

Seriously though, I suspect you probably got one of the last ones with data. I’ve not heard of anyone with a car built after August that has data, whatever the options.

😂😂😂 I meant July 2024 of course.

[Hartside]

There was a time when the next model year used to bring enhancements and additions. Now it seems it is the excuse to cost reduce even further. I do t know about everyone else but I’m getting sick and tired of paying more and more and quality/specification getting less!

[markronnie]

Originally Posted by Hartside

There was a time when the next model year used to bring enhancements and additions. Now it seems it is the excuse to cost reduce even further. I do t know about everyone else but I’m getting sick and tired of paying more and more and quality/specification getting less!

I’m in my first BMW & the first time I bought a brand new vehicle that was made to my specifications. Don’t get me wrong I’ve bought many new but they all came from a dealers lot (or nearby dealer the dealer traded with) to my specifications. I always knew what I was buying because I physically saw it before I put down any money.

Coming out of production in early November 2023, I was among the 1st to get a 2024 X1 28i. I was miffed that BMW intentionally removed the glove compartment light, which the vehicle (a 2023) I test drove had, to save them a few dollars. It also lacked the 4 rear tie downs I assumed it would have because I had seen photos of others with them & my 3 previous Acura RDX’s had them a standard equipment.

As you stated BMW added nothing but removed features & made no price adjustment to me. After hearing further story’s (like data ports being eliminated mid-year) if I ever plan on another new BMW, I doubt I’ll have it built because I want to see exactly what I’m buying. I just hope there’s a selection close by to chose from, but if not I’ll be looking at another brand. Audi comes to mind.

[quirksandfeats]

Originally Posted by boupas

I tested the USB functionality on the 2025 30e PHEV and successfully played MP3 songs from an exFAT-formatted USB stick.

Additionally, the drive recorder was operating seamlessly in the background, recording footage from the front camera and saving it directly onto the same USB stick, without requiring the Drive Recorder app to be active on the screen.

Do your front ports have the USB symbol on them, for the battery symbol? I drive a July -2024-manufactured X1 30e as well but it has the battery symbol on the USB C ports for the front and back; I haven’t yet tried to use the front ports for data. The manual also makes no note of the front USB ports having data, so I would be curious if it still “secretly” has data transfer.

[boupas]

Originally Posted by quirksandfeats

Do your front ports have the USB symbol on them, for the battery symbol? I drive a July -2024-manufactured X1 30e as well but it has the battery symbol on the USB C ports for the front and back; I haven’t yet tried to use the front ports for data. The manual also makes no note of the front USB ports having data, so I would be curious if it still “secretly” has data transfer.

Both battery and data symbols on the front USB ports

[donnus]

I think if you read articles like this you understand why they cutting costs extensively. the car industry in europe, especially germany is bleeding badly because of asian competition.

https://pluralia.forumverona.com/en/...yss-of-crisis/

[Taylor66]

The European car industry will never be able to fight back by cutting small spec items from models. That only increases annoyance with customers. Penny pinching on the quite, a glove box light here a data connection there will just annoy people, especially when it doesn't match the publicised specs. Plus putting in features that are on a subscription basis (So all the expensive hardware is already there) is just gouging the customer, especially when those features are becoming standrads on less "Luxury" Brands

[markronnie]

Originally Posted by Taylor66

The European car industry will never be able to fight back by cutting small spec items from models. That only increases annoyance with customers. Penny pinching on the quite, a glove box light here a data connection there will just annoy people, especially when it doesn't match the publicised specs. Plus putting in features that are on a subscription basis (So all the expensive hardware is already there) is just gouging the customer, especially when those features are becoming standrads on less "Luxury" Brands

Well said & I could not agree more. BMW loyalists may be more inclined to accept the “penny pinching” but will turn off many others from another BMW or newer customers from getting a BMW brand.

Sourcing issues, as a result of COVID, was an excuse for adding notice to orders that features may not be available at production time, but their continued omissions, even considered minor, is a turn off. And paying a monthly or yearly fee for features standard on other brands is a huge turnoff at least for me. I think I heard in some areas you have to subscribe to have heated seats. Luckily not allowed in USA. If this is true how can any PREMIUM brand mfr ever consider such a thing when non premium brands do not charge for it.

[tex2670]

Originally Posted by markronnie

I’m in my first BMW & the first time I bought a brand new vehicle that was made to my specifications. Don’t get me wrong I’ve bought many new but they all came from a dealers lot (or nearby dealer the dealer traded with) to my specifications. I always knew what I was buying because I physically saw it before I put down any money.

Coming out of production in early November 2023, I was among the 1st to get a 2024 X1 28i. I was miffed that BMW intentionally removed the glove compartment light, which the vehicle (a 2023) I test drove had, to save them a few dollars. It also lacked the 4 rear tie downs I assumed it would have because I had seen photos of others with them & my 3 previous Acura RDX’s had them a standard equipment.

As you stated BMW added nothing but removed features & made no price adjustment to me. After hearing further story’s (like data ports being eliminated mid-year) if I ever plan on another new BMW, I doubt I’ll have it built because I want to see exactly what I’m buying. I just hope there’s a selection close by to chose from, but if not I’ll be looking at another brand. Audi comes to mind.

You act like BMW just invented cost cutting last year. This has been happening since the beginning of time; car companies always try and find ways to cut small costs here and there. Every company does it; and they will keep doing it.

BTW, I have a '23 - there were no cargo area tie-downs that year either. The pix you saw were people who added them after the fact.

[markronnie]

Originally Posted by tex2670

You act like BMW just invented cost cutting last year. This has been happening since the beginning of time; car companies always try and find ways to cut small costs here and there. Every company does it; and they will keep doing it.

BTW, I have a '23 - there were no cargo area tie-downs that year either. The pix you saw were people who added them after the fact.

My point was that by removing features from mid year cycle, however small, is a HUGE TURN OFF for most. Tie downs in an SUV/SAV had always been standard in my previous vehicles, not BMW brand. I believe I read they are standard in some parts of the world but not in NA.

Significant cost cutting typically comes from operational/production improvements as well as employee layoffs. Not removing items customers are expecting be included.

I see by your high # reputation, you are a long time BMW loyal customer & will defend their strategy. Your entitled to do so. But survival of any company depends on growing customer base & that can’t be accomplished by underwhelming new customers. Just my 2 cents.

[tex2670]

Originally Posted by markronnie

I see by your high # reputation, you are a long time BMW loyal customer & will defend their strategy. Your entitled to do so. But survival of any company depends on growing customer base & that can’t be accomplished by underwhelming new customers. Just my 2 cents.

I'm no BMW fan boy, and I don't defend anything. "Long time loyal customer" - LOL, this is my 2nd BMW. I'm just a realist.

I've been on Honda, Lexus, Hyundai and Mazda owner forums; same complaints everywhere. Each brand has members who complain about things big and small, and allege they will shop elsewhere. Maybe they do; maybe they don't. I'm willing to bet BMW (as well as most other car companies) have really good market research and know cost cutting measures they can take that will not have a material impact on sales. You don't have to like it...it's just the way it is.

[saltydog]

But people these days are a little more tech savy. So at least BMW
should have mentioned that they removed the USB data ports and they are only USB power ports. I looked at the diff between 2024 and 2025 X1 and that item was not on there. Even my very knowledgeable sales person did not know that.

[Daon7800]

Originally Posted by tex2670

I'm no BMW fan boy, and I don't defend anything. "Long time loyal customer" - LOL, this is my 2nd BMW. I'm just a realist.

I've been on Honda, Lexus, Hyundai and Mazda owner forums; same complaints everywhere. Each brand has members who complain about things big and small, and allege they will shop elsewhere. Maybe they do; maybe they don't. I'm willing to bet BMW (as well as most other car companies) have really good market research and know cost cutting measures they can take that will not have a material impact on sales. You don't have to like it...it's just the way it is.

I did some consulting work at JLR when they were part of Ford Europe circa 2003. They bought data from a research company called JATO (iirc) which had option pricing and features for competitor cars. That allowed them to produce competitive pricing papers against their main perceived competition by model.

[kenrok1]

I don't understand the logic - then they should've bundled it with the highest dollar package if they were going to be cunts for the money - then at least we would have an option if we dearly wanted it and would paid to get it. As it is I'm all but assured the 2 i ordered wont have it even though their marketing material to date stull says it has it