[DBFIU]

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

haha good luck, im am talking about wheel chips, front bumper rash, wear and tear on the inside...they look for anything they can to charge you for

hold on ill find you a thread to read to show an example

cant find the thread and im to lazy to do a major search, but dude is paying 2k(minor BS damage the dealer found) on top of the 4k in over mileage + the initial 5k he dropped to lease it im sure...thats a lot of money for a car you never owned

Then the guy obviously didn't think things through...

[Freakazoid]

Originally Posted by persian54

We have those in LA

But my 335i is lower and on the stiffest setting, so I don't think stiffness is a problem

Agreed, stiffness is relative... some people can take it, some can't. If you can, ignore the warnings from the other Personally I'm in the same boat as you, I'll take the stiffness.

[Trauma Junkie]

Originally Posted by persian54

I plan to invest that money, drive my 3000GT (or my mom's SLK), and save up for the GT-R or a Porsche C2S

Please tell me you are not still living with mommy and daddy...-

[persian54]

Originally Posted by Trauma Junkie

Please tell me you are not still living with mommy and daddy...-

Actually they're living with me technically as I'm paying the mortgage on the our valley home.

Though they go to Oxnard a lot since my mom hates the heat during the summer.

I'm planning on dumbing this home and getting a fixer-uper though... don't need something of this size and valley isn't going up nearly fast enough

rather buy something for 200-250k, invest 50k making is nice, and sell it in 2 years or so.
But that's a different thread all together...


and leasing vs. buying would be a different thread too

I used to lease my C class back when I was in high school cause I couldn't afford the finance monthly payments, nor did I drive that much

but I avg about 18k a year now, so a lease wouldn't work

[persian54]

Originally Posted by Freakazoid

Agreed, stiffness is relative... some people can take it, some can't. If you can, ignore the warnings from the other Personally I'm in the same boat as you, I'll take the stiffness.

[Comet]

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

have you ever leased a car? They go over your car when you turn it in with a fine tooth comb and charge you every penny possible, and by then you are ready to get a new one and willing to pay it just to get rid of it. Not to mention if you go over miles.

IMO people who lease high performance cars just cant afford to really buy it

I lease all my cars (except for the E93 because it was to be shipped out of the country).
All I know is instead of hassling myself by the end of 3 years to find someone to buy the car off of me, I might as well just give it back to the dealer and be done.. I know when my lease ends, so I know when I need my new car to come in...
most dealerships will let you keep your old car until the new one comes in anyways...

on my E90 335 we kept it an extra 3 months until the X6M was delivered.. no penalties..

it is hassle free.. I'd lease a GT-R.. hell, I'd lease a 997 Turbo.

A Lambo and Ferrari I wouldn't lease. But cars that get updates or face lifts very often.. I'll lease it and get the new model if I liked it so much... new engine, new car, always better

[persian54]

Originally Posted by Comet

All I know is instead of hassling myself by the end of 3 years to find someone to buy the car off of me, I might as well just give it back to the dealer and be done.. I know when my lease ends, so I know when I need my new car to come in...

I'll lease it and get the new model if I liked it so much... new engine, new car, always better

You sound like my family lol

[jlstyle]

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

have you ever leased a car? They go over your car when you turn it in with a fine tooth comb and charge you every penny possible, and by then you are ready to get a new one and willing to pay it just to get rid of it. Not to mention if you go over miles.

IMO people who lease high performance cars just cant afford to really buy it

Not true.
I've leased 2 and my family had leased 4 cars so far and none of them gave us headache when we return the car.

Of course I kept my leased car in pretty 'decent' shape but always had bunch of dings and scratches inside out through normal wear and tear plus big wheel rashes everywhere. But they do NOT care, or at least never cared on mine. I don't know where people get this weird myth.
If lease return inspection was that rigorous, I doubt lease would be so popular here in America.
People tends to forget lease return car is a "used car".

But yes, mileage is something that they don't let slip through no matter what.

[persian54]

Originally Posted by jlstyle

But yes, mileage is something that they don't let slip through no matter what.

Well no, they sometimes let it slide a little if you buy a new car from them

Also, I've personally been hit a little for small dings I thought were nothing on my old C class
o well
shit happens

[bolinp78]

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

IMO people who lease high performance cars just cant afford to really buy it

Welcome to the 'must-have' world that we live in.

[persian54]

Originally Posted by bolinp78

Welcome to the 'must-have' world that we live in.

That's America

[CollinsE90]

Originally Posted by bolinp78

Welcome to the 'must-have' world that we live in.

Yea and thats why our economy is the way it is, because everyone has to keep up with the Jones. I like having a new car, but im not going into debt just for people to see what I drive. To many family members and friends have done it and they think they are so rich driving a nice car, when in fact they are one paycheck from Chapter 11.

[persian54]

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

they are one paycheck from Chapter 11.

Or a different chapter

but we can't deny that this obsession (for loss of a better word) of ours (meaning Americans/people in America) is what has helped us (America as a country) become so (overall, when compared to the rest of the world) rich and powerful

[BTM]

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

Yea and thats why our economy is the way it is, because everyone has to keep up with the Jones. I like having a new car, but im not going into debt just for people to see what I drive. To many family members and friends have done it and they think they are so rich driving a nice car, when in fact they are one paycheck from Chapter 11.

No, people have always been like this. The difference is that they were getting approved while being too great a risk.