[shockin330i]

Originally Posted by scottwww

He didn't like that he was given a Bible at his military recruiting station.
"No, I won't trust in God."

Look at his other video to understand that part.

[JayKay335i]

Originally Posted by shockin330i

Lol, crimals don't obey laws.

Let me put it in Jared Loughner's terms.

Criminals carry guns
Criminals don't follow Government Laws.

Government makes a law banning guns..
Criminals don't follow Government Laws..

Thus Criminals carry guns.

Or you live in a place where if you are carrying a gun, you are a criminal. I great up with if you carry a gun you are either a cop or a criminal. Out here everybody and their mother has a gun. I think it should be something you earn, not a god given right.

[ybbiz34]

Originally Posted by DougLikesBMW

...a 20¢ bullet in his head right away.

I wish ammo was that inexpensive.

[ybbiz34]

Originally Posted by JayKay335i

Everybody and their mother has a gun here in AZ. They walk around with them stuffed in their shorts and shit all day. I find that most of these people appear to be irresponsible morons. I wish there were actual gun laws.

Guess what?

Criminals don't care about the laws my friend. They still can get their hands on guns and they don't care that they don't have a handgun license.

America has drug laws but does that stop you from lighting up?

[shockin330i]

Originally Posted by ybbiz34

Guess what?

Criminals don't care about the laws my friend. They still can get their hands on guns and they don't care that they don't have a handgun license.

America has drug laws but does that stop you from lighting up?

Well said.

[scottwww]

Originally Posted by shockin330i

Look at his other video to understand that part.

The quote I wrote was the soundbite they gave on the news. So, I just read the video where he made those references and the understanding that comes from it is that he appears to be psychotic. But as a diagnosis, that would have to come from a professional after some interviewing and observation, I suppose.

[JayKay335i]

Originally Posted by ybbiz34

Guess what?

Criminals don't care about the laws my friend. They still can get their hands on guns and they don't care that they don't have a handgun license.

America has drug laws but does that stop you from lighting up?

Whos talking about them not being able to get guns? I'm saying that if you are walking on the street with a gun hanging out of your belt in New York you are a criminal. If you are in AZ you are just another person. Its a means of differentiation in a way. Either way, whats it really matter. I have little confidence in society and dont think most people should be wielding guns, or cars for that matter. I think there should be stricter regulations on both. To many morons. Criminal or not.

[335iheLLraiseR]

Originally Posted by GregTheStig

lol maybe, but I'm betting someone saw Palin's "crosshair" poster (http://goo.gl/yawk9) on her site and felt obligated to kill people. Brainwashed by someone for sure.


Btw I'm still waiting for a major news source to talk about that map

they already did in the article on the msn home page. the crosshairs, the RELOAD, and all that other BS.

[ybbiz34]

Originally Posted by JayKay335i

Whos talking about them not being able to get guns? I'm saying that if you are walking on the street with a gun hanging out of your belt in New York you are a criminal. If you are in AZ you are just another person. Its a means of differentiation in a way. Either way, whats it really matter. I have little confidence in society and dont think most people should be wielding guns, or cars for that matter. I think there should be stricter regulations on both. To many morons. Criminal or not.

I'm unfamiliar with the Arizona handgun laws but I think they allow something along the lines of "Constitutional Carry." I'm not sure if an Arizona citizen still has to obtain a permit in order to carry a handgun.

I'm a big Second Amendment supporter. I strongly believe that an individual should be able to carry a weapon in order to protect themselves, friends, and loved ones in the event that the need arises. I also think that carrying a weapon also comes with great responsibility.

In Indiana, for instance, I had to submit an application for a license to carry a handgun to the Indiana State Police Dept. (which took 8-12 weeks). I was fingerprinted, they ran a background check, and I had an interview with my local Police Chief. Indiana allows for both concealed and "open" carry.

I just know that personally, I feel MUCH safer with responsible, upstanding, and armed citizens walking around than without them, leaving the criminals to have their way. The police can't be everywhere.

My .02 cents.

[pmeloche]

Originally Posted by Schm

and with the Fiat Currency

What on Earth is a Fiat currency?

[ABQ325i]

Originally Posted by pmeloche

What on Earth is a Fiat currency?

Fiat Currency is any money or currency declared by a government to be legal tender and has no real value other than the value given to it by the government.

This is the opposite of commodity currency which is what anything with real value such as oil or gold would be.

[Schm]

http://www.kgun9.com/global/story.asp?s=13809065

[RP86]

The 9-year-old was identified as Christina Taylor Greene. CNN affiliate KVOA said family members described her as "excited" about the political process, and that the desire to learn more about it had motivated her to go to the Gifford event for constituents.
Christina was born on September 11, 2001 the affiliate reported.

very sad day for the parents my heart goes out to all who lost their lives in a senseless act.

[scottwww]

The shooter was a dope smoker. Here are a few quick notes from what others have written:

In an interview with The Associated Press, Wiens also said Loughner used to speak critically about religion. He also talked about how he liked to smoke pot....

In October 2007, Loughner was cited in Pima County for possession of drug paraphernalia, which was dismissed after he completed a diversion program, according to online records.

Schizophrenics are twice as likely to smoke marijuana as non-schizophrenics.

People who smoke marijuana are twice as likely to develop schizophrenia as those who do not smoke.

[SonnyJack]

Originally Posted by Schm

Fox news is reporting that Laughtner had serious problems with "illiteracy" in district 8, and with the Fiat Currency, he apparently believed in a gold or some sort of hard currency. I.E. he is a crazy person.

Also, apparently several people returned fire at the shooter, they don't know details. This is an incredibly gun-friendly state, and Gifford's was a strong advocate of 2nd ammendment and was a long-time gun owner.

So......any idea if the actual assailant is responsible for all of the victims, or could the other, well meaning folks, have contributed to the high number of dead and wounded by firing indiscriminantly?

Full disclosure: I am a gun owner.

[SonnyJack]

Originally Posted by RP86

The 9-year-old was identified as Christina Taylor Greene. CNN affiliate KVOA said family members described her as "excited" about the political process, and that the desire to learn more about it had motivated her to go to the Gifford event for constituents.
Christina was born on September 11, 2001 the affiliate reported.

very sad day for the parents my heart goes out to all who lost their lives in a senseless act.

She was the grand-daughter of former Phillies manager Dallas Green. Her father worked for the Dodgers.

[CollinsE90]

I wonder if Im a Schizo since im an ex pot smoker, come on guys Marijuana doesnt cause people to kill people.

[scottwww]

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

I wonder if Im a Schizo since im an ex pot smoker, come on guys Marijuana doesnt cause people to kill people.

No, it doesn't. But if it can be shown that there is a correlation between schizophenia and pot smoking, it is something that shouldn't be entirely ignored. Kind of like if you have an erection lasting for longer than 4 hours you should call your doctor. It doesn't mean you are going to go out and rape someone. Though someone who commits rape does it on Viagra, it doesn't mean the Viagra caused them to rape because they couldn't get rid of an erection.

Marijuana is more dangerous than many users acknowledge and less dangerous than portrayed by others.

I need to see if I can find the old movie "Reefer Madness". That could balance out my collection of Cheech & Chong movies.

[DougLikesBMW]

Originally Posted by quagmire

I think life in solitary confinement with zero social interaction and not being allowed out of the cell at all will do a much better job punishing this person then the death penalty.

Anyway, this is disgusting. I don't care about your political leanings and how you may have disagreed with her ideals. You don't try to kill them.

Honestly who cares, punishment by death is still a great punishment. A bullet in his head is much cheaper and efficient on our resources. He has given up his right to life.

[Echo M3]

Originally Posted by scottwww

No, it doesn't. But if it can be shown that there is a correlation between schizophenia and pot smoking, it is something that shouldn't be entirely ignored. Kind of like if you have an erection lasting for longer than 4 hours you should call your doctor. It doesn't mean you are going to go out and rape someone. Though someone who commits rape does it on Viagra, it doesn't mean the Viagra caused them to rape because they couldn't get rid of an erection.

Marijuana is more dangerous than many users acknowledge and less dangerous than portrayed by others.

I need to see if I can find the old movie "Reefer Madness". That could balance out my collection of Cheech & Chong movies.

This is well said. There is a suspected relationship between schizophrenia and marijuana use, but it is still being examined fully. Not sure if it has been shown to be causal yet, but it's certainly something to take into consideration.

[scottwww]

Originally Posted by DougLikesBMW

Honestly who cares, punishment by death is still a great punishment. A bullet in his head is much cheaper and efficient on our resources. He has given up his right to life.

He will probably take up residence next to John Hinckley Jr. at St Elizabeths.

[FStop7]

Originally Posted by SonnyJack

So......any idea if the actual assailant is responsible for all of the victims, or could the other, well meaning folks, have contributed to the high number of dead and wounded by firing indiscriminantly?

Full disclosure: I am a gun owner.

I'm pretty sure the claims of bystanders shooting back have been proven to be false.