[Shinobi]

Originally Posted by just4kickz

but i dont recall any american cars that have ever been noted to be good in the twisties... i mean sure the corvette and viper might be allright... but from what i've read... the handling on those cars aren't close to that of the imports... whether its japanese or european.

Originally Posted by matsarge

...I laugh to myself when I see negative comments about the Corvette "image" or comments like "it's only good in a straight line". Most people who make those comments have never driven a Corvette and are going off the comments made 20-30 years ago about handling or build quality etc...

LOL, whatever just4kickz read regarding a Corvette's handling is total BS. I've seen alot of other posts by arrogant BMW owners who claim M3s, M Coupes, Z4s, etc. can take a Vette in the twisties - what a joke.

Along those same lines, I went through both threads and there is idiocy, immaturity, and fanboism on both sides. There were several posters on the 300C forum who respect and recognize the awesome performance of the 335i, just as there are people here who can respect and appreciate the SRT-8. The driver of the SRT-8 may be full of it, but no one knows all the details of this street race to say for sure. Sometimes these threads are entertaining, but as someone mentioned earlier, after awhile it just gets embarrassing.

[NaTuReB0Y]

HEMI just kicked in Yo!

[Ryan@Motorwerks]

mattarge- what gets your vette up to 463hp?

[inventory0297]

How many of these guys actually know what HEMI refers to and how many can actually spell Hemispherical without pulling out their old Rush albums

Or that the new "hemis" are not hemis at all, in that they do not have hemispherical heads.

There has never been a Dodge that was any good. At least not in 30 years.

[Carnage]

Originally Posted by 335e90

mattarge- what gets your vette up to 463hp?

Not much, headers, off-road x-pipe, porting the intake, Callaway intake and a tune. That's one of the beautiful things about the LS2 motor, cheap and potent mods.
Whole project cost me less than $2,500 and I picked up about 60-65 HP and 55-60 lb of TQ. I plan on being over 500 HP by the end of the year.

[FirstClass]

Originally Posted by PresaMat

I think the 07 z06 is the best bang for the buck performance car in the market. It can keep up with many $100-500K for not THAT much more then well equipted 335i. Yah the interior quality isnt nearly as nice but we are talking pure sport not luxury. I have also heard rumors that the 08s will be jumping the HP another 50 or so on both models!

If you want pure sport buy an Atom 2 for less than the vette and laugh as the vette owner eats your dust in confusion.

[Carnage]

Originally Posted by FirstClass

If you want pure sport buy an Atom 2 for less than the vette and laugh as the vette owner eats your dust in confusion.

Those Atom's are just nasty vehicles. Most motorcycles are toast against it much less a car.

[Evo8MRto335I]

I think that the tale is very believeable. It was perhaps a 6 speed manual and the guy had the traction control off and bogged down. 0-60mph happens very fast and it is very popssible that this happned just the way it was describe.

On another note maybe with a different driver it would be a different event. I wouldn't streess it out too much, overall the BMW 335i is quicker.

Carlos

[BMW320i]

Originally Posted by Evo8MRto335I

I think that the tale is very believeable. It was perhaps a 6 speed manual and the guy had the traction control off and bogged down. 0-60mph happens very fast and it is very popssible that this happned just the way it was describe.

On another note maybe with a different driver it would be a different event. I wouldn't streess it out too much, overall the BMW 335i is quicker.

Carlos

+1
couldn't say it better

[Chris.G]

Originally Posted by Evo8MRto335I

I think that the tale is very believeable. It was perhaps a 6 speed manual and the guy had the traction control off and bogged down. 0-60mph happens very fast and it is very popssible that this happned just the way it was describe.

On another note maybe with a different driver it would be a different event. I wouldn't streess it out too much, overall the BMW 335i is quicker.

Carlos

Definately agree

[ALPINE6SPD]

Originally Posted by SteveMD

I liked the 300C when it first hit the streets a couple of years ago. It was different. So much so that it was almost cool! Now I think it is a simply a big huge caricature of itself. Every one I see here around Baltmore is pimped out on chrome 22s with a stupid Bentley looking grill. Even the one zorst V6s do it. I think it's mandatory once you buy one: dubs, grill and Season 4 of The Sopranos on DVD.

My bud has the Charger SRT8. That's the way to go. Or the Jeep.

the jeep is the way to go IMO

[DFW_M]

Originally Posted by kapoo

No way! I went up against a stock SRT8 and wooped him. Ill do it again and get it on video

Maybe his wasn't stock...

[06330i]

people in 300c's crack me up. they think they're the hottest shit on the road b/c they have a hemi and its somewhat fast, but tell me whats a better built car? and what will turn heads? no offense to the 300c owners, but some of the guys driving them give you guys a bad reputation.

[serge]

Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude

It is BS

He had his whole family in the car! If it was stock for stock with 1 driver in each, then yeah I believe they're equal in a straight line, but this guys wife says "take him down" and he proceeds to beat the that 335. Come on. The car is already 4200 pounds, how much would a family add?

No, he said that it was him and his wife, but you're right, SRT8's are quite heavy (4200 lbs.). However, did you stop and think about how much power these SRT8s are packing? 425 underrated bhp...these mammoths are seriously fast. I've seen some stock SRT8's doing 12.7 at 110+mph, an achievement that I haven't seen on any Procede 335 yet. I'm not a big fan of american muscle, but this powerplant never ceases to amaze me. Haven't you noticed that the fastest stock SUV on the planet is the Grand Cherokee SRT8? It literally destroys the 500hp Porsche Cayenne Turbo S on every measurement, even slalom and lateral G's

[ArmyBimmerDude]

Originally Posted by serge

No, he said that it was him and his wife, but you're right, SRT8's are quite heavy (4200 lbs.). However, did you stop and think about how much power these SRT8s are packing? 425 underrated bhp...these mammoths are seriously fast. I've seen some stock SRT8's doing 12.7 at 110+mph, an achievement that I haven't seen on any Procede 335 yet. I'm not a big fan of american muscle, but this powerplant never ceases to amaze me. Haven't you noticed that the fastest stock SUV on the planet is the Grand Cherokee SRT8? It literally destroys the 500hp Porsche Cayenne Turbo S on every measurement, even slalom and lateral G's

Um....yeah, about that Cherokee SRT8....here ya go:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50514

Oh and as far as that porsche comment goes, I wouldnt know if thats true or not. You now know it cant beat a 385hp/410tq PROCEDE 335, SO the likelihood of it beating that specific porsche seems unreal to me.

Thank you, please come again.

[serge]

Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude

Um....yeah, about that Cherokee SRT8....here ya go:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50514

Oh and as far as that porsche comment goes, I wouldnt know if thats true or not. You now know it cant beat a 385hp/410tq PROCEDE 335, SO the likelihood of it beating that specific porsche seems unreal to me.

Thank you, please come again.

Once again, I'm not a fan of the Jeep SRT8, but here's the info:

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....&page_number=3

SRT8: 0-60: 4.6 13.2 @ 104.1 MPH
Cayenne Turbo S: 0-60: 5.3 13.9 @ 101.2

I wasn't comparing the SRT8 with the 335i, but since you brought that up, it seems that stock by stock, this SUV owns the 335. Regarding that video, (terrible music by the way), its clear that the Procede 335 is a bit faster than the Jeep, or at least from a roll (80 mph aprox), but I wouldn't pay too much attention to these vidds, especially the ones comming from Kuwait. I lived over there for a year and I can tell you from my own experience that these rich kids driving expensive and powerful cars CAN'T drive.

[ArmyBimmerDude]

Originally Posted by serge

Once again, I'm not a fan of the Jeep SRT8, but here's the info:

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....&page_number=3

SRT8: 0-60: 4.6 13.2 @ 104.1 MPH
Cayenne Turbo S: 0-60: 5.3 13.9 @ 101.2

I wasn't comparing the SRT8 with the 335i, but since you brought that up, it seems that stock by stock, this SUV owns the 335. Regarding that video, (terrible music by the way), its clear that the Procede 335 is a bit faster than the Jeep, or at least from a roll (80 mph aprox), but I wouldn't pay too much attention to these vidds, especially the ones comming from Kuwait. I lived over there for a year and I can tell you from my own experience that these rich kids driving expensive and powerful cars CAN'T drive.

You know, on the one hand I agree with you about the rich kids in kuwait not being able to drive or taking these vids seriously, BUT then I think to myself...wait, these are more than likely both AT since the MT is slowly dying way and really, how much of a genius do you have to me to step on a pedal?

You are right though. Stock for stock, the SUV would kill the 335.

You in the military?

[serge]

Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude

You in the military?

Yep!

[ArmyBimmerDude]

Originally Posted by serge

Yep!

Cool. Sell me your Evo

[GLASIG]

[QUOTE=AKbmw;818191]didnt we all see the race between the 335 and the jeep srt8 ... the jeep has 4 x 4 .. giving it advantage from a dig? am i not right.. and STILL the 335 KILLED the keep srt8.. (my bro has the jeep srt8 and it sure as hell is faster than the 330c srt8)


You are 100% right about that. I've driven all SRT8 models and can confirm that the Jeep is faster.

And about this race with a 300 SRT8, I think he beat a 335i. Automatic vs manual/ driver getting the feel for his car. And the most important thing is, they only raced to 60 MPH!!!!!!!!!!!! Every one on this forum knows that the 335i is nasty on the top end .

[BMW320i]

Originally Posted by serge

Once again, I'm not a fan of the Jeep SRT8, but here's the info:

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....&page_number=3

SRT8: 0-60: 4.6 13.2 @ 104.1 MPH
Cayenne Turbo S: 0-60: 5.3 13.9 @ 101.2

I wasn't comparing the SRT8 with the 335i, but since you brought that up, it seems that stock by stock, this SUV owns the 335. Regarding that video, (terrible music by the way), its clear that the Procede 335 is a bit faster than the Jeep, or at least from a roll (80 mph aprox), but I wouldn't pay too much attention to these vidds, especially the ones comming from Kuwait. I lived over there for a year and I can tell you from my own experience that these rich kids driving expensive and powerful cars CAN'T drive.

ok, so i think i should clear somthing out...

1st, that video of 335i V.S Jeep SRT8 in kuwait was stock V.S stock.
2nd, both are AT, all you have to do is floor the pedal...
3rd, i dont know how chrysler built thier cars, but the jeep is the faster SRT8 out there, faster than the 300c and the charger...

so to conclude:
stock 335i AT V.S stock jeep AT ------> 335i won
stock 335i AT V.S stock 300c AT------> most probably the 335i will win as well...

and please dont generalize,,,,, there are rich kids in kuwait who know nothing about cars and driving, but there are some who are very interested in cars and driving as well...

[ArmyBimmerDude]

Originally Posted by BMW320i

ok, so i think i should clear somthing out...

1st, that video of 335i V.S Jeep SRT8 in kuwait was stock V.S stock.
2nd, both are AT, all you have to do is floor the pedal...
3rd, i dont know how chrysler built thier cars, but the jeep is the faster SRT8 out there, faster than the 300c and the charger...

so to conclude:
stock 335i AT V.S stock jeep AT ------> 335i won
stock 335i AT V.S stock 300c AT------> most probably the 335i will win as well...

and please dont generalize,,,,, there are rich kids in kuwait who know nothing about cars and driving, but there are some who are very interested in cars and driving as well...

See, I dont know much about American cars, but I thought a SRT-8 was the same engine in the Charger, 300c, Jeep. I never thought they would be different.