[THE JEDI]

okay to all you naysayers these cars will make it possible for bmw to continue to build v8's the U.S> and Europe are about to lay down some serious smack down on fuel standards and a 300 mile single charge electric car will go a long way, SHESUS stop crying like an Audi S5 guy who knows he should have gotten that M3

[BMW-ALPINA]

Originally Posted by hwelvaar

When is the M version going to be released ?

It will not be any M-Sport, but you can get the model in this version: "110i Active Tourer fDrive luxury line Efficient Dynamics Limited Edition eDrive" .........

[cncmastr]

Why us the fuel door on the wrong side?

Those seats have so much potential, but the bottom is too flat!

[clbmw]

For all the nays on here I'd understand if it were replacing the 3 series or something. But it isn't.

It's a growth area for BMW and with stringent emissions targets both govt and consumer etc there are only going to be more and more limits to the percentage of their volume that are high performance cars they can produce profitably.

My guess is these vehicles will only help ///M by gaining market share for BMW.

WRT the CAT I personally think it looks great. Not sure about an ///MCAT though.

[lescampbell]

I'm guessing this has a lot of the F56 behind the skin. FWD and Hybrid drive. I hope the next MINI has this same engine choice in it. Maybe even put it in a Roadster for guilt free, silent motoring.

[cs4444]

Originally Posted by racedoc11

with every day passing by I feel great switching to Audi....

Why? So you can get an A8 in FWD...

[ZheHbKa]

i'll wait for the indoor edition

[jraymond]

I bought a Mazda CX-5 for 20.5k at sticker ($500 over invoice) .9%

It has twice the cargo room as this for my bikes, a 6spd manual, I am driving like I stole it now 8k miles in and am getting 32mpg on 87unleaded....

As far a FWD goes I would never consider a BMW over a company that has already nailed it....

[Pure]

Good design, but horror color!!!! Oh no, Crash Amazing Shockwave!!!!

[cgaffney004]

perfect for the wife.

[i001947]

This is just wrong. What's the point of introducing the X4 (which I like) and this?

[cs4444]

I like the hybrid AWD idea with gas powering the front and electric at the rear. If it drives like a mini, I would imagine it could be a fun second or third car.

[wdeerfield]

a BMW VENZA, nice... it actually doesnt look bad, but FWD.. if you want it for sport enthusiasts, make it AWD, then we'd have something better to drive than an X1

[///M KID]

[mPlasticDesign]

Originally Posted by 3s-a-charm

Forum full of M3 fans isn't going to receive this vehicle well... I think it looks great and I am also starting to look like that guy in the photoshoot so I'm moving into the target demographic I guess?

PS - Still an M3 fan

ditto

[kgaler]

The Ultimate Grocery Getting Machine

[epiphone3]

I actually really like the look of this thing!

[dwells]

It's becoming alarmingly obvious as of late that BMW has shifted far from building the ultimate driving machine to an "everything to everyone" approach, sacrificing quality for quantity. Let's take a look at how diluted the BMW lineup has become:

• 1 Series 5 door hatch
• 1 Series 3 door hatch
• 1 Series ActiveE
• 2 Series coupe
• 2 Series cabrio
• 2 Series GranCoupe
• 3 Series sedan
• 3 Series touring
• 3 Series GT
• 3 Series Active Hybrid
• 4 Series coupe
• 4 Series cabrio
• 4 Series GranCoupe
• 5 Series sedan
• 5 Series touring
• 5 Series GT
• 5 Series Active Hybrid
• 6 Series coupe
• 6 Series cabrio
• 6 Series GranCoupe
• 7 Series sedan
• 7 Series LWB sedan
• 7 Series high security sedan
• 7 Series Active Hyrbid
• Z4 cabrio
• i3 Electric
• i8 Electric

Oh, and that's just the confirmed car lineup! Let's try SUVs, too!

• X1
• X3
• X4
• X5
• X6

Oh, and let's not forget the "exclusive" M lineup:

• M135i 5 door hatch
• M135i 3 door hatch
• M235i coupe
• M235i cabrio
• M3 sedan
• M4 coupe
• M4 cabrio
• M4 GranCoupe
• M550d xDrive sedan
• M550d xDrive touring
• M5 sedan
• M6 coupe
• M6 cabrio
• M6 GranCoupe
• X5 M50d
• X5 M
• X6 M50d
• X6 M

Then let's not forget that pretty much every vehicle comes with the option of AWD and that the SUVs are no longer going to have AWD standard. There's too many models, just look at how diluted the brand has become. We've got a million SUVs available, and one roadster which doesn't even get an M version anymore. This brand isn't about the ultimate driving machine anymore.

[bavarian19]

BMW could not become more misaligned with what their core values have been than what it has produced recently. An X everything, GT's that are hideous and not more practical, a 'line' for each model so the marketing people can classify you. Splash on some new paint (that you can already special order), and call it a special edition.

Why not take all that effort towards those models, and make genuine progress in your existing models? Even the M5 competition package is laughable.

I have seen much better from BMW.

[Falcao]

Originally Posted by NorthBuddy

Cool down...

Maybe in the US BMW is about the Ms and Xs. I had 3series and 5series, than the kids came and now... I drive a Ford SMax as this is for me the - sorry - ultimate sporty family van. Which car is out there for Drivers (Fathers) who have to combine a sport with a family car and don't want to struggle all the time with the seat-belts for the kids due to narrow interior cars. There's a huge group of customers out there waiting for the right offer (that's why e.g. the 3GT is the right thing).

I don't see the Active Tourer in the line of the other BMWs (which are still there). Its broadening the product offering for families.

The only down side on this: This ActiveTourer is small! In my SMax I've 5 full seats + 3rd row (where adults do fit!). This is what I want. ActiveTourer based on strechted 3series platform, rear wheel and xdrive + engine above 200hp (my SMax has about 250hp).

+1. most of the people doing the complaining here think M3 is the only car in BMW lineup. Just because you are not going to buy it does not mean other people will not enjoy or buy the car. Everyone does not get their BMW to add, exhaust, tune, big wheels, low susp, etc. Don't take my word for it, look at profit made by BMW within the last calendar year in spite of bitching about turbos, losing their way, weight, EPS, etc. Some of us are not getting any younger and have kids, family, etc.

Active tourer concept is a refreshing concept and something i would consider as DD because M5 would be my other car. M5 i would tune, drop susp and all the other crazy stuff.

[Piotr74656]

I understand what so many people are crying about because no one is taking away your M3s. People need to understand that the M division creates a strong following for the BMW brand but it is not their bread a butter. BMW needs mass market cars to stay profitable and the 3 Series does not fit everyone's bill.

In San Francisco for example, as in many other urban areas, I see small hybrid cars on every block and BMW wants a piece of that market because it sees profitability in it. Every corporation's main goal is to generate profit and those who think otherwise must be delusional.

As for the car itself, I like the design and can see the appeal of owning a small and efficient luxury hybrid in the city.

[Ghetto2315]

Bavarian MARKETING Works... that is what you have become!


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