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I just went with the Magpul MS1 and used paracord for the front sling loop. I'd checkout PMM's QD attachments for Scar. Then you could use the Magpul MS4 or a similar sling with QD points.
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Awesome! Thanks for sharing.
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I'll just put this here.
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The intent was clear as are ALL of the BORs. The entire BORs was written and appended to the constitution because many of the states would have refused to join the USA had there not been specific limits placed on the federal government. One of which was the right to keep the power to replace that government if it oversteps its bounds. Note these were not rights granted to the people. These were recognized and put off limits to government control. I also always get a kick out of those who say "well they didn't anticipate weapons that fired that many times a second". Actually, they did. But regardless of it they did or not they DID NOT anticipate the internet and TV which still use the protection of freedom of the press etc. Technology changes - concepts remain. And always funny when someone says no one needs an AR15. Actually, it is exactly what the founders would have had in mind. The concept that hunting had anything to do with the 2nd A is one of the most duplicitous arguments from the left. The 2nd A is specifically so the PEOPLE have weapons of war in their possession to resist tyranny. One may argue that it won't work now. It is an interesting debate. But it would need to have a constitutional amendment to make banning guns legal. Get an amendment removing the 2nd from the constitution and THEN pass new laws banning some types of weapons. That would be the honest approach to any gun control. Mods, if this is inappropriate feel free to delete. |
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That, I believe, would definitely lead to a hot civil war.
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I got a Rem .22 for Christmas when I was 12.
I got a Mossberg 500 combo 12 when I turned 18. What are the chances those serial numbers were kept somewhere the gov could access and then know I have weapons, were 2A removed? RElated, when we cleaned out the closet this weekend in anticipation of demolition, I found an un-opened 100 box of shells. Shelf life?
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But what about the "well-regulated militia" verbiage in the 2A?
I'm not some "ban all the guns" liberal BTW: I qualified in the M14 in 1966 at Marine Corps OCS in Quantico. During my 25-year Navy career I had minimal contact with firearms; I did, however, enjoy watching the USS New Jersey fire her 16" main battery and also enjoyed watch the Navy 20mm Vulcan CIWS fire. While I personally feel the personal ownership of "assault rifles" (AR-15 and the like) is ridiculous, I do understand that the reality is that there are a lot of Americans who feel very differently. My opinion is that the 2A is adequate as written but has been unfortunately interpreted. While I understand that is unpopular in this thread, I suspect quite a few citizens agree with me. Many key judges do not. And I agree that a new amendment clarifying or restricting gun ownership has a snowball's chance in hell.
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Our defense against a tyrannical government is the voting booth, the courts and, perhaps the last straw, the county sheriffs of the U.S.A. The weapons equation is waaay skewed to the government side. And, speaking as retired military, there's one more defense to government tyranny, though I'm unsure of how effective it would be: If the government tries to use force on its own citizens, would the military obey orders? After all, the military are citizens, too. I circle back to the idea that in the modern context militia = military reserve components (National Guard & Reserves). Of course they should have arms, including sophisticated arms like armored vehicles, AC-130s and A-10s. For ordinary citizens, hunting rifles, shotguns, etc.
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I agree that we take our oath very seriously. But my problem is that you and I interpret the 2A quite differently. The obvious answer is to hold a constitutional convention and do a new constitution, clarifying a number of areas, among which would be the firearm issue. (An idea that I've heard is being floated in some conservative circles.) The reality is that our constitution has become a sacred document and I see no way that could really happen in real life, particularly with the massive gulf between conservative and liberal citizens. So we are left with judges whose wisdom we trust but who in reality are as imperfect as the rest of us. Concerning corrupt courts/judges, that's what the checks and balances are about, isn't it? If one of the three branches of government turns rogue, the other two can rein it in. It's a knotty problem, but I feel that something has to be done to reduce the uniquely American slaughter.
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It's not only gun violence that is high in the US, suicide has skyrocketed. Kids these days will literally lose their mind and shut down if they lose wifi. Young adults have zero coping mechanisms and little social skills because of digital connections. For example look at the thread about tipping and the entitlement in some of those stories. You can take the gun away, but that doesn't solve the real problem at hand, it just creates more of the problem and more divide amongst our nation. I don't believe we humans are meant to be so connected at such a young age. Too much information, too much negativity and persuasion for undeveloped minds. Most adults can't process the amount of information force fed to us every day, let alone young adults and children. And with the drama of the media so much of that information is lose/lose "choose a side". Now that I've said my bit, I will say no more.
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This very line is how that armed citizenry would be able to, at the very least, resist a rogue government. Not full on "WOLVERINES" but look at the social change enacted in just the last years thru "mostly peaceful" demonstrations. Now try to imagine the <insert either party here> using the military against armed citizens And even you, trained and qualified, yet you say I can have my hunting rifle but not an AR-style gun? They shoot the same round! One looks "scary" or "war-like" and the other has a smooth wooden stock. Both a re semi-auto, both used INAPROPRIATELY would kill 10s or 100s of people. So what is the common denominator in these mass shootings? A messed-up human who didn't get the attention society needed to give him. The gun didn't shoot anybody.
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If the 2nd A is out of date and no longer workable and people have decided they want to ban the type of weapons the 2nd A intended the people to own, do the right thing. Amend the constitution. The mechanism is in place to change it. There is a legitimate path. If the majority of Americans and their elected representatives actually agree and go down this road I'll accept it. The constitution is the law of the land and if it no longer defines a limit to the government on controlling citizen ownership of military capable rifles so be it. But the current laws being passed by the DEM politicians are both meaningless in terms of making us safer AND in many cases violate our rights. And I don't know about you but the idea they can violate one rght means what's next? Freedom of speech? Such as controlling public social media squashing questions regarding Covid? This is a bad road we tread. |
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Yeah but how many gun stores will have an unfortunate fire losing all their records if government suddenly starts asking for everyone on file? My guess is a lot.
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