Next Audi RS4 is going the M3 way

[dkhm3]

Originally Posted by ybbiz34

Will the RS4 even be available in the States?

There was no RS4 sedan for the most recent generation, correct? I've never seen one personally.

Audi has confirmed the RS3 is coming to the US. It was on C and D.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/audi-co...3-for-the-u-s/

So I would think that depending on how well it is received, the RS4 will have a chance.

[chillindrdude]

Originally Posted by dkhm3

Audi has confirmed the RS3 is coming to the US. It was on C and D.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/audi-co...3-for-the-u-s/

So I would think that depending on how well it is received, the RS4 will have a chance.

Over priced. M2 will be a better car and less expensive.

[ixse]

Originally Posted by chillindrdude

Over priced. M2 will be a better car and less expensive.

Please dont make your speculations into factual comment. Unless you can see the future nobody know how much rs3 vs m2 will cost here in US.
Gotta luv fanboyism.. Not sure about driving dynamics, but numbers wise i bet u rs3 will put better times then M2.

[buildbright]

Originally Posted by chillindrdude

Over priced. M2 will be a better car and less expensive.

Im not sure may depend on the owner. The S3 is a great car just small. Also the Audi I5 turbo sounds kool

[dkhm3]

Per C and D-

http://blog.caranddriver.com/next-au...rs5-sportback/

still don't know if the RS4 will make it stateside

[rr006rbc]

Originally Posted by dkhm3

Per C and D-

http://blog.caranddriver.com/next-au...rs5-sportback/

still don't know if the RS4 will make it stateside

They need to bring those bad ass avants over here.

[pikkagtr]

If that Avant RS4 does well, maybe it'll prompt BMW to consider and M3 GT 5dr

[OneRib]

I'm sorry, but in this regard Audi is lame. Avant/wagons are a niche market in the US. So their plan is to continue to make RS4's and RS6's in wagon only form and blame Audi America for not bringing it over. A niche within another niche is silly for a company that wants to expand. They should offer the car in both body styles. It can't cost that much more to make an RS4/RS6 sedan.

I was just at Audi forum in Ingolstadt. Lots of happy European customers taking delivery. I can't imagine how many more US customers they could grab by making more RS sedan models.

[RickFLM4]

Originally Posted by OneRib

I'm sorry, but in this regard Audi is lame. Avant/wagons are a niche market in the US. So their plan is to continue to make RS4's and RS6's in wagon only form and blame Audi America for not bringing it over. A niche within another niche is silly for a company that wants to expand. They should offer the car in both body styles. It can't cost that much more to make an RS4/RS6 sedan.

I was just at Audi forum in Ingolstadt. Lots of happy European customers taking delivery. I can't imagine how many more US customers they could grab by making more RS sedan models.

I would tend to agree, particularly with worldwide SUV / small SUV sales increasing, including in Europe.

[S4Dude]

Originally Posted by OneRib

I'm sorry, but in this regard Audi is lame. Avant/wagons are a niche market in the US. So their plan is to continue to make RS4's and RS6's in wagon only form and blame Audi America for not bringing it over. A niche within another niche is silly for a company that wants to expand. They should offer the car in both body styles. It can't cost that much more to make an RS4/RS6 sedan.

I was just at Audi forum in Ingolstadt. Lots of happy European customers taking delivery. I can't imagine how many more US customers they could grab by making more RS sedan models.

Valid point. I'm sitting on my 14 S4 waiting for the official announcement from Audi on which B9 RS model will be shipped to the US. I'm willing to take a look at an Avant but frankly, being single, no kids, I'd prefer a 2/4 door sedan type car.

I want to stick with Audi having owned one continuously for a decade but the holes in the lineup for enthusiasts are growing. I joined this forum because I'm fairly confident we won't see those cars in the US and at this point, the offerings from BMW are more compelling.

I like Audi Avants', great looking cars but I'm just not sure that's what I want to drive.

[Blksnowflake]

If the RS4 Avant came stateside, I'd trade my M3 for it, like it that much. Not for performance and track capabilities but for all around badassness, the M3 is the better track vehicle if that is your priority, though not mine.
Audi is retarded not to bring this vehicle stateside, even if they forced customers with the wagon body style people would by it, a sedan would likely do very well also.

[dkhm3]

Originally Posted by Blksnowflake

If the RS4 Avant came stateside, I'd trade my M3 for it, like it that much. Not for performance and track capabilities but for all around badassness, the M3 is the better track vehicle if that is your priority, though not mine.
Audi is retarded not to bring this vehicle stateside, even if they forced customers with the wagon body style people would by it, a sedan would likely do very well also.

I know what you are saying, it simply looks amazing.

Too bad I don't like the heavy AWD, and the severe understeer.... a la my old S4.

[CreoUCLA]

Originally Posted by dkhm3

Too bad I don't like the heavy AWD, and the severe understeer.... a la my old S4.

The newer cars with the the sports differential are fairly neutral when being pushed hard. Can't do anything about the weight, though...

[TahoeM3]

[dkhm3]

Originally Posted by CreoUCLA

The newer cars with the the sports differential are fairly neutral when being pushed hard. Can't do anything about the weight, though...

Yeah, with exception of the R8 though, you're not going to see RS/S models scoring fast lap times.

But avants are badass nonetheless!

[OneRib]

Originally Posted by S4Dude

Valid point. I'm sitting on my 14 S4 waiting for the official announcement from Audi on which B9 RS model will be shipped to the US. I'm willing to take a look at an Avant but frankly, being single, no kids, I'd prefer a 2/4 door sedan type car.

I want to stick with Audi having owned one continuously for a decade but the holes in the lineup for enthusiasts are growing. I joined this forum because I'm fairly confident we won't see those cars in the US and at this point, the offerings from BMW are more compelling.

I like Audi Avants', great looking cars but I'm just not sure that's what I want to drive.

This is exactly Audi's problem. Avants are great for many reasons, but they miss for many demographics. I would bet my M3 that if Audi brought over both a sedan and Avant body style for the RS4 or RS6, the sedan sales would crush the Avant numbers.

[Liberation]

Originally Posted by OneRib

This is exactly Audi's problem. Avants are great for many reasons, but they miss for many demographics. I would bet my M3 that if Audi brought over both a sedan and Avant body style for the RS4 or RS6, the sedan sales would crush the Avant numbers.

But that's the exact reason why Audi doesn't bring the Avant's stateside.

Wagons aren't in demand here like they are overseas.

[OneRib]

Originally Posted by Liberation

But that's the exact reason why Audi doesn't bring the Avant's stateside.

Wagons aren't in demand here like they are overseas.

All the more reason for Audi to make the RS4 and RS6 in sedan form.

[Ian1973]

Interesting to use turbocharging and not supercharging, since they are gaining experience with the S4 and S5 engines.

[brava09]

Originally Posted by dkhm3

Yeah, with exception of the R8 though, you're not going to see RS/S models scoring fast lap times.

But avants are badass nonetheless!

Sorry but the RS5 was faster on most tracks than the same generation of M3 (E92).
Check it here on fastestlaps

http://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/b...-audi_rs5.html



I'm sure the story will repeat with the B9 generation.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by Ian1973

Interesting to use turbocharging and not supercharging, since they are gaining experience with the S4 and S5 engines.

To me it was strange that they went with the supercharged V6 to begin with. Sure, it's a great engine from what most reviewers say, but it's the odd man out both in the VAG lineup and across the industry (although Jaguar has a supercharged V6 too, but then they already had the supercharged V8 for years prior to that). It seems a pretty good bet that the turbocharged V6 will soon take over for the supercharged V6 across the Audi lineup.

[Mako]

http://www.leftlanenews.com/audi-pla...-us-89172.html

interesting, how long has it been since it was sold in the US?
Audi would have the only AWD car in the segment (unless Jaguar makes theirs AWD, which is possible).

I am now re-thinking my buy/lease strategy for my M3 (goes into production next month), might want to lease it for 3 years and get the RS4 in 2018, always wanted an AWD 500 horsepower car in this size class