[DFW_M]

Originally Posted by ganeil

Do not expect logic or reason from dr325i. In any matter that he believes remotely involves George W. Bush, he is incapable of either.

Neil, if you have no smart comment, please do not comment at all. You have proven over and over that your "clear" logic applies to those majority of population calls -- retards. So, please mind your own business, google those Gov't sites and live some life that is realistic only to you and hicks around you...

[txusa03]

Break it up guys/girls

Look, realistically, we gonna continue to use gas no matter how high price of oil is. However, it is fun to just reminiscence about how much gas cost back in the 70's vs now.

[txusa03]

Originally Posted by TurboFan

What's your theory, Bush is hoarding it at his ranch in Texas???

he sure is and it is in the form of green papers

[335i4u2nv]

we need to boycot (F7 please) gas! seriously only want prices will lower is when they have exceded our demand for it

[TurboFan]

Originally Posted by dr325i

First of all -- the growth you keep mentioning is over 10 years, not 5 as you were asked to post.
Second, the growth of 86% is still nothing as compared to 400% more we're paying at the gas station as compared to 1997...

I did not mention Bush name at all. But since you did -- it is still strange how the gas prices only exploded on his watch (last 7 years, and not before that) since the China industrial revolution started 20 years ago. We all know he and his family loves oil...

You need to take a class in economics before you start posting. You don't need a 400% increase in the demand for a commodity to create a 400% increase in price.

[TurboFan]

Originally Posted by txusa03

Break it up guys/girls

Look, realistically, we gonna continue to use gas no matter how high price of oil is. However, it is fun to just reminiscence about how much gas cost back in the 70's vs now.

Well, maybe back in the 90's when I could fill up at $0.99/gallon. In the 70's, it was crazy! Sure, the absolute price was cheap in todays dollars, but that was some of the most expensive gas the country had seen, until now.

I'd still love to see what an internet chat room would look like back then....let me see if I can dig up a post from my wayback machine....

[TurboFan]

Originally Posted by TurboFan

...I'd still love to see what an internet chat room would look like back then....let me see if I can dig up a post from my wayback machine....

Here's one from a Camaro forum, circa 1978...

Originally Posted by SuaFlyCamaro

Man! The price of gas just cleared $0.30/ gallon for leaded! What the hell man, it cost me $6 to fill my tank on the way to the disco last night! I'm gettin 6 mpg with my 454 big block and the six pack Holley carbs. Anybody know anything about these japcrap Honda's I've been hearing about? Look like junk, but they get like 20 mpg! ....

[Vegas_Sirk]

Originally Posted by TurboFan

You need to take a class in economics before you start posting. You don't need a 400% increase in the demand for a commodity to create a 400% increase in price.

+1 ... EVERYONE should take a College level Eco class and learn what they teach. If you did it would change your outlook on life. It explains everything in logical terms.

I personally think with the way our Government is everyone should be required to get a lic to vote and to get that lic they should have to take a economics class and pass with a B or better. There are too many clueless idiots voting for shit they have no idea what the after effects will be.

[TurboFan]

Originally Posted by M3This

+1 ... EVERYONE should take a College level Eco class and learn what they teach. If you did it would change your outlook on life. It explains everything in logical terms.

I personally think with the way our Government is everyone should be required to get a lic to vote and to get that lic they should have to take a economics class and pass with a B or better. There are too many clueless idiots voting for shit they have no idea what the after effects will be.

You can't expect doc to apply logic.

[achenator]

I like how the guy whose mommy just got a car with the most horrible gas mileage comes on here to bitch about SUV's. LOL.

[DFW_M]

Originally Posted by TurboFan

You can't expect doc to apply logic.

Exactly, you have been asked over and over to explain and all you say how logical it is and some O'Riley crap with absolutely no proof -- makes me wonder if you understand what you claim you do. Actually, re-reading your posts it is clear you don't. Another "wanted to sound smart on the forum, turned to be dumb kid..."?

[Krueger///M3]

Originally Posted by TurboFan

Here's one from a Camaro forum, circa 1978...

Hillarious!!!!

[dth656]

actually, in addition to constraints in refining, spikes in demand, etc, one contributor to volatility (IMHO) is speculators. i'm thinking of commodities traders and futures/options traders who take large, market moving positions.

unrelated, but i also think minivans offer far more room/convnenience than SUVs for hauling kids, stuff around, and are safer to drive as well. however, the mpg improvements arent that huge. my parents 06 honda odyssey gets about 24-26mpg freeway at 65-75mph.

[Island Snow]

Heard the democrats would bill the Iraqi gov't for $5 Trillion

[justice]

All I can say is that gas prices suck....
What makes less sense is that if you want to buy a hybrid SUV is costs $10-20k more then a gas model so you lose either way, you either pay more for the gas or you pay more to buy the hybrid.

The only real benefit is that as fuel prices increase: unneccessary driving decreases and the sales of "big" SUVs and truck decrease. I'm hoping that this will make the auto manufacturers create more fuel efficient cars and cheaper hybrids.

I think in the long run it will be a good thing, but right now it sucks.

[Jay_328]

Originally Posted by cars4lyfe

sooner or later, we're all going to be working 16 hour days just to afford a bowl of soup.

....hell, I sure hope that's not the case but who knows

[TurboFan]

Originally Posted by dth656

...unrelated, but i also think minivans offer far more room/convnenience than SUVs for hauling kids, stuff around, and are safer to drive as well. however, the mpg improvements arent that huge. my parents 06 honda odyssey gets about 24-26mpg freeway at 65-75mph.

Sure, and so does a Honda Civic or Accord over a 3 or 5 series. But I don't want one! I'll probably end up with a full size SUV in the garage soon, and while a minivan might make sense, I haven't seen one yet that I like the style.

[TurboFan]

Originally Posted by dr325i

Exactly, you have been asked over and over to explain and all you say how logical it is and some O'Riley crap with absolutely no proof -- makes me wonder if you understand what you claim you do. Actually, re-reading your posts it is clear you don't. Another "wanted to sound smart on the forum, turned to be dumb kid..."?

O'Riley? Are you kidding me? I don't listen to that crap. I read, and make the determination for myself. In all the posts you've made, I've not seen one shred of intellectual capacity from you. You haven't won an argument with me yet, you can't present one shred of comprehensible logic to support any of your positions. Every time someone beats you with logic, and it happens in every thread, you resort to petty partisan rhetoric that is without merrit or basis. I'm not going to waste my time digging up information to meet your exact request. If you want specific information of a specific time frame, Google it you lazy ass, it's out there for you to read. But take an econ course or two before you try and argue free market economics with me. You need an education.

[fobunited]

I wonder how the Europeans on this board who pay $6+ per gallon feel about our whining...

[TurboFan]

Originally Posted by fobunited

I wonder how the Europeans on this board who pay $6+ per gallon feel about our whining...

*in my best German accent*

Suuuck eet up, butter cup!

[DFW_M]

Originally Posted by TurboFan

O'Riley? Are you kidding me? I don't listen to that crap. I read, and make the determination for myself. In all the posts you've made, I've not seen one shred of intellectual capacity from you. You haven't won an argument with me yet, you can't present one shred of comprehensible logic to support any of your positions. Every time someone beats you with logic, and it happens in every thread, you resort to petty partisan rhetoric that is without merrit or basis. I'm not going to waste my time digging up information to meet your exact request. If you want specific information of a specific time frame, Google it you lazy ass, it's out there for you to read. But take an econ course or two before you try and argue free market economics with me. You need an education.

Economics is just a small part of education and YES, I do need some of it in my life...for my good, though.

On the other hand, you keep proving with every new post that you need much much more and broader type of education. And a shrink to help you keep it all together...on the forum boards (I don't even want to know what is happening in a real life...)...

And again...so far, no clear answer to any of your "superiority" claims. Just admit it -- you have no clue about the "free world" economics, just BSing here whatever you heard on FOX...

Originally Posted by TurboFan

You haven't won an argument with me yet, you can't present one shred of comprehensible logic to support any of your positions. .

What are you, 6? Sounded just like my daughter... You have not answered to any of the arguments so far, and have ben shut up by many of us (politics) many times, so we don't see you there any more... You just keep proving my points above, thanks

[Munich_Menace]

Originally Posted by fobunited

I wonder how the Europeans on this board who pay $6+ per gallon feel about our whining...

Publik transportation my friend