2023 Honda Civic Type R - July 1st

OkieSnuffBox · 07-22-2022, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Humdizzle

if you want awd there is the GR corolla which surprisingly may be around the same weight. But the civic looks much much nicer overall imo.

Since Toyota has already publicly admitted they are going to artificially limit supply for the GR, there are going to be HUGE markups.

Let's say it's $40k, initially (I'll bet you a steak dinner) that dealers will have it marked up to $70k+

ntg44 · 07-22-2022, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

Since Toyota has already publicly admitted they are going to artificially limit supply for the GR, there are going to be HUGE markups.

Let's say it's $40k, initially (I'll bet you a steak dinner) that dealers will have it marked up to $70k+

If that will really be the case, I hope the dealer doesn't have a Supra in the showroom at the same time.

60k gets you into some seriously compelling and better options.

kyriian · 07-22-2022, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ntg44

If that will really be the case, I hope the dealer doesn't have a Supra in the showroom at the same time.

60k gets you into some seriously compelling and better options.

Chances are, if the markups on the manual GR Corolla is going to be high, a manual Supra will be just as bad

The automatic one though...

OkieSnuffBox · 07-22-2022, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ntg44

If that will really be the case, I hope the dealer doesn't have a Supra in the showroom at the same time.

60k gets you into some seriously compelling and better options.

I mean, obviously I don't know for certain. I'm just guessing based on other stuff we are seeing.

There is one Facebook group for the new BRZ/GR86 where a guy is BRAGGING about paying a $10k markup over MSRP. Why would you brag about being taken to the cleaners?

"I have the money and I wanted it now."

That was literally his response when all of us started telling him he is a dunce.

Ricochet48 · 07-22-2022, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

I mean, obviously I don't know for certain. I'm just guessing based on other stuff we are seeing.

There is one Facebook group for the new BRZ/GR86 where a guy is BRAGGING about paying a $10k markup over MSRP. Why would you brag about being taken to the cleaners?

"I have the money and I wanted it now."

That was literally his response when all of us started telling him he is a dunce.

That's why there's an incentive for dealers to mark up. There's always a few morons that will overspend.

Personally I would never pay a cent over MSRP.

RM7 · 07-22-2022, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ricochet48

That's why there's an incentive for dealers to mark up. There's always a few morons that will overspend.

Personally I would never pay a cent over MSRP.

That’s supply and demand. If there’s limited supply, expect this.

freakystyly · 07-22-2022, 12:54 PM

*artificially limited supply

It's a civic.

Mtxzptlk · 07-22-2022, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ntg44

While I won't be buying one of these, of all the things stopping you from buying this car, THAT is?

Just get red rubber rim protectors and it'll look 95% the same haha.

Yes. Lol.

Well it's the pinstripes and I already have several cars.

This Type-R looks to be a great all-rounder car.

But if I was to only have one car or replace only one car. I'd take this over a Golf R and the Corolla GR, easily.

FrankMstein · 07-22-2022, 03:14 PM

WAY WAY WAY better looks!!!

Humdizzle · 07-22-2022, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by freakystyly

*artificially limited supply

It's a civic.

the fact that serial plate has 5 digits tells me all i need to know. anything with more than 10,000 units isn't limited.

FrankMstein · 07-22-2022, 03:42 PM

MPSS5's that we can't get here. I wonder if the engine is still built in England.

Clark_Kent · 07-22-2022, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by freakystyly

*artificially limited supply

It's a civic.

Marketing is a wild thing. What's more surprising is folks are so hype over the GR Corolla. It's just a Corolla, my goodness. Dream bigger people.

Red Bread · 07-22-2022, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Clark_Kent

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Originally Posted by freakystyly

*artificially limited supply

It's a civic.

Marketing is a wild thing. What's more surprising is folks are so hype over the GR Corolla. It's just a Corolla, my goodness. Dream bigger people.

Yeah, just your normal, 300hp, torque vectoring, awd three cylinder Corolla. Totally normal.

Burrcold · 07-23-2022, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FrankMstein

MPSS5's that we can't get here. I wonder if the engine is still built in England.

Those are MPS4S's.

Red Bread · 07-23-2022, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Burrcold

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Originally Posted by FrankMstein

MPSS5's that we can't get here. I wonder if the engine is still built in England.

Those are MPS4S's.

There also isn't a 5S available elsewhere, just the 5, which isn't the same thing.

FrankMstein · 07-25-2022, 08:10 AM

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There also isn't a 5S available elsewhere, just the 5, which isn't the same thing.

Not the first time an S looked like a 5!

wtwo3 · 07-26-2022, 11:05 AM

https://carbuzz.com/news/this-is-how...c-type-r-makes

326 hp and 310 lb/ft

supra93 · 07-26-2022, 11:40 AM

https://www.civicxi.com/forum/thread...ance-ca.50911/

Burrcold · 07-26-2022, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by supra93

https://www.civicxi.com/forum/thread...ance-ca.50911/

Almost looks like a mini Hellcat from the front.

Humdizzle · 07-26-2022, 02:48 PM

definitely does give off mini hellcat vibes from the front. overall good design though. the white in the promo didn't really show how wide those fenders are.

with some wheels and drop its gonna look really good.

Equilibrandt · 07-26-2022, 03:38 PM

I do have to say the front looks quite mean. Nice, wide, and low.

heavyD^2 · 07-27-2022, 09:08 AM

I really like the wide stance. I'm kind of surprised how much the fenders are flared out as these cars are going to have presence in person. Also props to Honda for actually making new rear door skins just for this car that flow with the fender bulge. BMW could maybe take note here.

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