US G99 M5 Touring is confirmed!

F32Fleet · 07-25-2022, 08:57 PM

Time to win the lottery. Lol

MilehighM3 · 07-25-2022, 09:01 PM

I've been saying this almost a year and people didn't believe me. To those, I told you so!

JoeyBananaz18 · 07-25-2022, 09:05 PM

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=29056307

Me last month. I do think it's cool but no I don't have the 160-200k this is going to cost. However, does this mean that a non-M 5 series wagon is also coming over?

TheBingoBalls · 07-25-2022, 09:07 PM

This is why I can never believe the excuses or explanations of why car x or car y won't make it to a certain market. All we've been hearing every time a model doesn't get introduced to a certain market is cost, too expensive to do this or that and ultimately didn't make sense to bring it. And is the Touring coming back? If not, then bringing the M5 Touring goes even more against this.

But let's bring a wagon that is a M car and will likely be priced over $100k because a car with any of those are such high sellers on their own.

I'm glad that something relatively unique is coming but cheesed that we can't get other desirable units that would likely sell more than a high performance wagon (looking at you RS6) because it costs too much to develop and they won't recoup the cost.

NightWriter · 07-25-2022, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by shawnhayes

If the only engine option is the plug in hybrid, a manual is not possible. Depending on configuration of the power trains (most manufacturers prefer the electrics and petrol to be separate for reliability interns) most of these will have one transmission for the petrol and one for the electric. The i8, the Mini Countryman all 4 se, the euro only X2 plug in hybrid met these criteria.

The exception to this has only been one power train in the 330e and 540e and X3e (and maybe the X5e, but I don't know for sure) which has an electric "flywheel" between the engine and the transmission to drive it. But even these have been auto only because of technical concerns.

I'm doubtful BMW will replicate that feat for the M5 touring. So likely a manual won't be possible.

Shawn

Aside from all that, considering BMW didn't see fit to offer a manual on the existing (fully-ICE) M5, it's nigh impossible to conceive they'd go through the expense and hassle of developing one for the next generation, hybrid or not.

NGT2 · 07-25-2022, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by eljay

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Originally Posted by NGT2

If the M5 touring is coming to the US, does that mean the regular 5 series touring model is coming to the US?

That's what I'd like to know! An //M540iT would be plenty.

I could definitely see a 540 touring being my next car in 4-5 years.

shawnhayes · 07-25-2022, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NightWriter

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Originally Posted by shawnhayes

If the only engine option is the plug in hybrid, a manual is not possible. Depending on configuration of the power trains (most manufacturers prefer the electrics and petrol to be separate for reliability interns) most of these will have one transmission for the petrol and one for the electric. The i8, the Mini Countryman all 4 se, the euro only X2 plug in hybrid met these criteria.

The exception to this has only been one power train in the 330e and 540e and X3e (and maybe the X5e, but I don't know for sure) which has an electric "flywheel" between the engine and the transmission to drive it. But even these have been auto only because of technical concerns.

I'm doubtful BMW will replicate that feat for the M5 touring. So likely a manual won't be possible.

Shawn

Aside from all that, considering BMW didn't see fit to offer a manual on the existing (fully-ICE) M5, it's nigh impossible to conceive they'd go through the expense and hassle of developing one for the next generation, hybrid or not.

Owning one of those, it will MURDER a manual in the 0-60, and 1/4 mile, and Mike, and around a track of similar power and weight.

Only exception is the Cadillac, but "similar power and weight" isn't true. Manuals are fun and engaging. Better? Nope. Not anymore.

Shawn

BimmerMat135 · 07-25-2022, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by duky

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Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

Well i guess that it's time to cancel my RS6 order my Audi SA might be sad.

you realize this is 2-3 years away, right? that's a long time...

Yup it will probably be available around April 2025 or later. I did wait 15 months for my 1M so I should survive this waiting period.

ppointer · 07-25-2022, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NGT2

I could definitely see a 540 touring being my next car in 4-5 years.

Love our new 540i that I bought for my wife. A wagon for myself would be no problem.

cbertels · 07-25-2022, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by duky

Holy crapola!! Give me it now. Anything to get out of Audi MMI. I love the RS6 but I would also love to get back into the BMW family

Will take that RS6 when you want out

IB M · 07-25-2022, 09:28 PM

100% Interested and maybe my first new M purchase since 2018, that is if the front end looks like this rendition attached and not a version of Grillzilla.

Que up a factory rear hitch mount please for my One-up rack.

stefan · 07-25-2022, 09:33 PM

Who could this possibly be for? It will be way out of the price bracket of people who buy wagons as functional vehicles. Anyone who can afford this is an M5 sedan buyer and probably has a truck too.

shawnhayes · 07-25-2022, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by stefan

Who could this possibly be for? It will be way out of the price bracket of people who buy wagons as functional vehicles. Anyone who can afford this is an M5 sedan buyer and probably has a truck too.

Nope. M5 CS and a Volvo V60 Polestar because no other U.S. sold wagon is a 400 plus hp with brembo brakes and a plug in hybrid too.

The M5 Touring will be a handy replacement for the Polestar, which if the market stays stable I can sell for about what I paid for it (but we'll see about that)

Shawn

e92ben · 07-25-2022, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ynguldyn

US version of G99 M5 Touring is confirmed.

Never.

ThesaVeliona · 07-25-2022, 09:44 PM

SIGN ME UP, I want to have it alongside the RS6!

Chas8283 · 07-25-2022, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by stefan

Who could this possibly be for? It will be way out of the price bracket of people who buy wagons as functional vehicles. Anyone who can afford this is an M5 sedan buyer and probably has a truck too.

Mercedes E class wagon owners were traditionally some of MB's wealthiest customers.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/inte...e-stauble/amp/

spuntyb · 07-25-2022, 11:07 PM

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!! I can't wait to buy one of these!!!!

Sublime00 · 07-25-2022, 11:12 PM

BMW enthusiasts aren't clamoring for a $200k wagon. At least not to realistically purchase.

They should've just brought the m3 touring here for $100k'ish and stuck a manual in it.

But I guess this makes as much sense as an $800k CSL homage.

The world's going mad; Porsche thinks they're Ferrari and BMW thinks they're Porsche.

440i6MT · 07-25-2022, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sublime00

The world's going mad; Porsche thinks they're Ferrari and BMW thinks they're Porsche.

And Mazda thinks they're BMW. Sticking with the classic RWD, Inline-6 configuration.

themnmd · 07-25-2022, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by otay

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Originally Posted by ynguldyn

US version of G99 M5 Touring is confirmed.

keylime503 · 07-26-2022, 12:30 AM

This actually makes a lot of sense. Neither Mercedes or Audi bring their M3 wagon equivalent to the US. Both Mercedes and Audi bring their M5 wagon to the US.

e61it · 07-26-2022, 12:35 AM

I had a 2001 540it complete with slushbox. I put a Dinan Stage 1 engine tune and Suspension tune on it and it was a fantastic drive - transmission was more the quick enough up and down. I'm wondering if BMW is trying to find another market for this car to reclaim some of the money that went into it. I doubt it will meet the new Euro environmental regulations within a few years. All that said it would be great if they could send us a standard 540 wagon phev equipped. Perhaps that would get some folks away from the x5 which might be another reason neither the 3 or 5 m wagons will make it here which has been mentioned in other previous posts.

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