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Originally Posted by M3WC

They stopped providing those numbers years ago. Now we get overall M numbers, which include M-lite models.

Is it possible to suss out roughly how many proper M sales?
Or, not possible?

I’m guessing it is a couple thousand a year, total

Or, am I way off… I never looked so idk.

Guaranteed they’re selling a heck of a lot more m-sport/lite cars just due to price so those numbers would be kinda useless if you can’t suss out the proper M car sales. It’s tough for me to even know proper M sometimes from m-sport now because speed is not always a good differentiator. I know a lot of the m-lite cars are very quick cars.

Something like X3M, is that a proper M car with suspension and the whole deal?
Confusing since M doesn’t mean the same thing depending on what vehicle it is.

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The X3M is a proper M-SUV for sure but not a proper M-car as all these hopped up SUV's are not really sports cars as they are more SUV's that are very fast in a straight line and when pushed hard can put up a decent lap time but the feeling is not the same as driving a car fast.

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Originally Posted by heavyD^2

The X3M is a proper M-SUV for sure but not a proper M-car as all these hopped up SUV's are not really sports cars as they are more SUV's that are very fast in a straight line and when pushed hard can put up a decent lap time but the feeling is not the same as driving a car fast.

That’s what I thought.
I haven’t really thought of an M car as being anything other than M/3/4/5
I realize there is the 2,6,8 now too.

Never looked into them that closely but I figure those are actual M vehicles and I personally figured the M SUV’s we’re just what you said “fast” suv. That’s exactly how I feel about the Porsche Macan though too. It’s not a Porsche to me. It’s a way too expensive station wagon. If I wanted that I’d just get the MDX, which I think is the vehicle that started the entire category.

Anyway,
Really wish they didn’t slap M on everything.
I try to pay attention and even I am confused lol.
They should at least give us the number for Mcars vs Msuv.
That would help a lot.

Totally unrelated, I was looking at a Chevy suburban and it was $70k frickin dollars. Went to Ford to build a Bronco and trying my best to minimize costs it was $55k… for a frickin Bronco.

Didn’t those things used to like blow up or something ha ha!
Oh man, what a world.