[Xens]

Originally Posted by Ghunger

It's funny how these type of threads always turn out the same. People who are "rich" defending how they got their car, People who don't have as much money and resent the rich people who they think don't appreciate the car they have. The funny part is this is a BMW forum. How many people do you really think would read a bmw forum if they weren't an enthusiast? Regardless of how much money someone makes they're here cause they love these cars.

By the way, my first car was a Geo Metro that my parents bought me (1.0L 3cyl :rocks: ). Then I bought myself a used Toyota Tacoma during college and I can't wait to get a new BMW this coming spring.

Very well said, what is the point of a thread like this? I've opened this thread for 3 times in total ONLY because it keeps being bumped back to the top.

Some people will live their lives this way, some people will live their lives that way, live it the way you want to and be happy with it because it's pointless to attempt to convince others that your way is better.

[Jay_328]

Originally Posted by CirrusSR22

When I was 20 my parents sold me a 91 Ford Escort for $800....

Dude, that's funny I must say!

[E90-4life]

I dont' really care about the car, it's more how people behave, but then agian, they're not me, so who cares?

[yu]

That's a good point, JBM, but I think that if you grow up always having the nice material things, then yes, you would be upset if you got a Kia. But if you were brought up in a family that is well off but never really got whatever you wanted, I don't think it would be a problem for that child. I was brought up to be an honest, moral, unselfish and respectful person. I don't know about everyone else, but that's how all the Asians I know were taught growing up. When I was in my pre-teens, I would never want the nice things that everyone has, but as I grew up more, I also wanted more. My parents started spoiling me a little more giving me whatever I wanted that was at a reasonable cost (mainly apparel or what not). I was never like everyone else though. People would go out and spend their money on useless things and respond with "It's my parents' money, I don't care." I would always feel bad when I would spend money my parents gave me on something I really didn't need. So now, I try to spend as little as possible. I guess it's just how you are brought up.

[Jay_328]

Originally Posted by nrg09

For those of you who are young (16-18) and drive in BMW's, how would you feel if your parents gave you a used Kia instead of a BMW?

Some parents do not want their kids driving such a "lowly" car. If the Jones kid is seen driving exibit A, some will want their kid driving exibit A also or something even better. Remember parents have egos too.

[E90-4life]

Originally Posted by Jay_325Ci

Some parents do not want their kids driving such a "lowly" car. If the Jones kid is seen driving exibit A, some will want their kid driving exibit A also or something even better. Remember parents have egos too.

I tried to tell my parentals to get me a Honda or a Yota, but they refused...

[1er120i]

some general ideas to eventually end this pointless thread.

- having money and driving a luxury car does not necessarily equate to being spoiled; like I said earlier it depends on the upbringing of the kid

- parents want the best for their children as much as possible; this would include good education, good food on the table and avoiding the Kia as much as possible

- some people get nice cars effortless, some with more effort, while others have failed completely. this is because we are in a game called "life"

- don't hate the player, hate the game

to y'all... Bimmer and non Bimmer owners

[ON325i]

i have been wanting a BM since highschool.... now i get it myself 10 years later happy happy happy

[CnoteMD]

This whole issue is relative. People here who consider these kids spoiled may be looked at similarly by others. For someone in high school to be given a BMW will seem excessive to someone who had to work 10+ years to be able to buy that same car. But during those 10 years while that person was working and driving a more regular car (i.e. the Kia or Civic), there is someone else out there who may find it difficult to pay bus fare.

I went to college with a very affluent group of people who had no concept whatsoever of anything else but thier current financial status. I had always considered myself middle class until I got to college. During one conversation in my dorm when one student mentioned that his parents were sacrificing a lot to send him to school because they "only" made $120k/yr, the rest of the group actually felt sorry for him and said "wow, you really do have it bad".

A lot of people couldn't understand why I didn't have a car for my first 2 years of college. They would say things like "why don't you just ask your father to buy you a car". Many of them couldn't understand the idea that my father can't buy me a car, even if he wanted to. I eventually saved up enough money to buy a used Mazda RX7 for just under $6000, and most of them looked down on me for that very reason. But there was definitely a difference in how people with "new" money looked at me vs. those with "old" money.

In fact, one of the most grounded people I met in college was rich on a level I have never seen before. His father ran a a mult-billion dollar company. He drove a Jeep Cherokee, nice but nothing extravagant. It was funny when many of these people in the high end BMW's and Mercedes found out that thier parents actually worked for this other guys father.

In general, it's hard to determine who will be spoiled by getting a nice car at a young age. But I can say that some of these cars may be too powerful from a safety standpoint for someone just learning to drive.

Michael

[JamieA]

This thread is old news, we have been down this path before, and lashed out at the young ones, and their parents, and what has it achieved?

At the end of the day does it really matter? Everyone is only responsible for their own selves at the end of the day. You either end up a good person or a jerk, and others will treat you accordingly. It isn't related to having a good car given to you or not, but who you are inside as a person.

I understand the sentiment of wondering why society is so materialistic, but it is, and we can't change that in a hurry. Everybody wants the best for their children, education, physical safety, health, emotional wellbeing, and social acceptance. They want their children to have a better life than they did. These parents are just doing what it takes to set their children up for what they think is a good future. Accordingly they try to only do what they think is best, even though in hind sight it may not always turn out as planned.

What matters is what is manifest for me in my life right now. It doesn't affect my happiness that others have more than me, or got something I wanted before I did. So let's not pre-judge, but be happy that some people are able to have these fun, safe machines at a young age.

[AW330i]

Originally Posted by siriusinvestor

Parents now a days are really career oriented and don't have the time to spend with their children. So what do they do? They give them everything they desire in the hopes of compensating for the time they could not spend with their kids. I know most of my friends growing up were practically raised by their housekeepers and maids. It's pretty sad if you ask me.

While I have seen this happen many times it is not always the case and is certainly not the case in my situation. When I was 15, I started shopping for cars and trying to figure out just what it was that I wanted... My mom wanted me to get a little mercedes or something that was small and sporty, my dad really just wanted to get me what I wanted and help me make up my mind. One morning I woke up in a particular ricey mood and told my dad that I wanted a 94' Civic and that I wanted him to take all of the extra money that he would have spent on a new car and let me use it to "pimp my ride" LOL My dad took me to the honda dealership and told me to test drive the then current model civic... I drove it and really liked it and decided that it would be a lot better than buying an old one. I told my dad that I liked the car and that I would like him to buy it for me... He said alright but lets drive the accord just for fun. I said no, that car looks like an egg and its an old woman's car. He convinced me to drive the nicest sportiest accord they had on the lot and I actualy really enjoyed it a lot more than the civic... It had a much nicer interior, it was much faster and had navigation... But I still was in the mood to mod and hated the look of the car, so I told my dad that I wanted a body kit he reluctantly agreed and bought me a 2004 Accord V6 Ex 6-speed manual trans with navigation and every option in the book. And then he bought me a body kit for the car and had it painted and installed for me. I absolutly loved that car everyone wanted to look at me I thought I was the shit! (the car was not very ricey as it was all nicely done but lets just say I have an interesting past that I like to keep in my past LOL) I must have crashed that car a dozen times, doing stupid things and learning important life lessons along the way. After about 9 months of owning that car I opened my eyes to the european car seen and loved what I saw and of corse everyone liked to rag on me cuz I was the guy with the honda at the VW meets but I really didnt car every other car in my garage was euro and if I felt like taking the time to go home I could have easily showed up in a european car. It was at about this time that my love for the honda turned to resentment I didnt like the car at all anymore and when I told my dad he was furious. I told him that I wanted a german car and he looked at me like I was out of my mind and told me that he had just bought me the car that I said that I had wanted. At the time my grades were shit by the way like c's and d's I didn't care about school at all but he came to me one day and started yelling at me about my car and I made him an offer that aparently he couldn't refuse... The deal was I make all A's for the rest of the school year and I can have any car I want. He proceeded to ask me if I was on drugs and how in the hell I was going to pull that off when I was nearly failing half of my classes and doing poorly in the rest of them. He thought for sure that he would not be buying me a new car anytime soon and to this day he cant believe it but within a little over two weeks every one of my grades was an A. I went and told him about my grades and he said that is good but the deal is that you have to keep them up till the end of the year I said no problem as long as you are wiling to keep up your end of the bargain... The end of the year came and I had made the A honor role and my dad said allright have you picked a car? I told him that I wanted an E46 330ci ZHP he said allright and we went to the dealership... They did not have any ZHP's and were very short stocked on E46's there was almost nothing to pick from and you couldnt order an E46 to be built anymore. I had seen the new 3 and had even test driven it before and while I liked the way that the car drove I really liked the styling of the ZHP more... Slowly I started to fall in love with the E90 and within a month or two the car had grown on me so much that I decided to buy one... I now drive the car of my dreams, it took a lot of work on my end for me to get this car but it was all worth it and then some. I am so careful with this car it is not even funny, while there are many people who are not appreciative of what they have I am not one of them I keep my car clean and waxed all of the time I love buying things for it and while I do plan on modding the car everything that I want I feel is much more classy euro look. I will never buy another body kit at least in the near future and everything that goes on this car will be only the best... Also I think it is important to note that while my dady bought the car I am paying for any modifications myself and as any of you know who have looked into it that is a lot of the money when you buy the best of the best so I fully expect to keep this car for a long time and that is fine with me because I am going to keep it as perfect as I possibly can.

Now a picture of my honda and a picture of my bimmer so you can see the transformation that I have made. And really just how much I have matured...

[ShinyRedCar]

Originally Posted by Enroutte

My parents actually made a joke about that. My dad was like, "HEY HOW ABOUT A KIA? It has 10 year/ 100,000 mile." Yeah.. uh no.

If my parents were in a different financial situation, sure, any car would be nice. But.. if mean no offense but if you know your parents can afford a nice car.. why would you sttle for a kia?

Wow...I can think of no better response than yours for proving everyone's point

[LEDZEP]

Originally Posted by JamieA

This thread is old news, we have been down this path before, and lashed out at the young ones, and their parents, and what has it achieved?

At the end of the day does it really matter? Everyone is only responsible for their own selves at the end of the day. You either end up a good person or a jerk, and others will treat you accordingly. It isn't related to having a good car given to you or not, but who you are inside as a person.

I understand the sentiment of wondering why society is so materialistic, but it is, and we can't change that in a hurry. Everybody wants the best for their children, education, physical safety, health, emotional wellbeing, and social acceptance. They want their children to have a better life than they did. These parents are just doing what it takes to set their children up for what they think is a good future. Accordingly they try to only do what they think is best, even though in hind sight it may not always turn out as planned.

What matters is what is manifest for me in my life right now. It doesn't affect my happiness that others have more than me, or got something I wanted before I did. So let's not pre-judge, but be happy that some people are able to have these fun, safe machines at a young age.

Jamie - you're an alien from another planet aren't you! I just hope I'm around the day you have something bad to say about someone. You're a good guy!

P.S. So, the pink shirt is some sort of otherworldly uniform then?

[parafrog]

Originally Posted by ihavedrivenanm1

Uhh...doesn't sound like you have any money.

[CirrusSR22]

Originally Posted by Jay_325Ci

Dude, that's funny I must say!

I think they ripped me off too!

[Hunter399]

I'm 16

When I got my 325 for my birthday everyone thought I was spoiled.
Turns out, their tahoes, f150 king ranch truck, h2s, etc. COST MORE THAN MY CAR!
I know I am very lucky to drive such a nice car but people think BMWs are more expensive than they really are.

[Enroutte]

Originally Posted by JBM

P.S. Yes, I agree, the Kia would suck. But I would appreciate it regardless of my parents' financial status because that's their status, not mine.

You can say what you want, but are you actually serious? If your parents had a surplus amount of money and BMW is not a big thing to them but they end up getting you a 7,000$ KIA, you would not be upset one bit? Not even a little bit?

I understand you should appreciate wahtever is given to you -- especailly since it's free.

Actually, if you think about it, I don't think any parents who have an insane amount of money would buy their kid a KIA anyway. Why would you give your child a car that would is less reliable and safe? Why not give your kids the best you can give them?

[Enroutte]

Originally Posted by JGervasi

Wow...I can think of no better response than yours for proving everyone's point

Parents being able to give their children what they think is reasonable, does not make the child spoiled.

[CirrusSR22]

Originally Posted by hunter399@mac.com

When I got my 325 for my birthday everyone thought I was spoiled.
Turns out, their tahoes, f150 king ranch truck, h2s, etc. COST MORE THAN MY CAR!
I know I am very lucky to drive such a nice car but people think BMWs are more expensive than they really are.

That's a very good point. I swear some "car ignorant" people think every BMW is $70,000 +. When I tell some people I bought my 318ti for $7500 a few years back they are shocked that a BMW could be that inexpensive.

[Arby 330]

Originally Posted by JGervasi

It IS crazy! Did you guys read about Arby 330, the 17 year old above? I didn't (couldn't) get my first BMW until after I got my doctoral degree which pushed me to the top of the food chain at my job...and I was 36 years old then! My parents had money but we had to earn everything we got because they believed in teaching us the value of a dollar. I don't understand parents today...they're trying too hard to be friends with their kids instead of 'parents'. Sorry guys...this is turning into a rant! It's a beautiful sunny morning here in California and I'm going to go outside with my 2 boys and do some yard work...they want to earn some money to buy comic books

My parents wanted to get me a safe car. They made me sign a contract with them so i didnt change things up on them about what kind of grades i had to get. They promised me the Volvo, why would i want to settle for anything less than that.

I got a nice car from them because it was safe. I cant get anything for the car, even if i go out and work for it. For christmas this year i asked for them to "allow me to pay to get tinted windows", because they wont even let me get tinted windows.


-To answer the question on wether i would be disapointed to get a kia and not get a bmw..... the answer is yes. But that is because my sister got a Lexus and my brother got a BMW. And wether i get shit for saying that or not, its blunt and honest. Id feel a little disapointed if my parents were to favor my brother and sister over me.

[BMW F22]

i think it's all about the image. My family is just middle class and i drive a bimmer. Everyone who sees me in the bimmer thinks im rich, but im not. I would never try to be rich if im not. Now if i were to drive a $36,000 Avalon, nobody would think im rich. People REALLY DO think that bimmers are more expensive than they really are (not that they arent). This guy who vallet parked my car asked me "how much was this? $70,000?" i was like "hell no!!" Others have asked "is this a 5 series? 7 series??" I can drive a $34,000 TOYOTA CAMRY and ppl wouldnt say anything. But if i drive a $35,000 325i, ppl think im spoiled or rich. It's a weird world we live in.

Some ppl also feel the need to buy expensive stuff in order to create an image for themselves.

[wchew]

Originally Posted by AW330i

While I have seen this happen many times it is not always the case and is certainly not the case in my situation. When I was 15, I started shopping for cars and trying to figure out just what it was that I wanted... My mom wanted me to get a little mercedes or something that was small and sporty, my dad really just wanted to get me what I wanted and help me make up my mind. One morning I woke up in a particular ricey mood and told my dad that I wanted a 94' Civic and that I wanted him to take all of the extra money that he would have spent on a new car and let me use it to "pimp my ride" LOL My dad took me to the honda dealership and told me to test drive the then current model civic... I drove it and really liked it and decided that it would be a lot better than buying an old one. I told my dad that I liked the car and that I would like him to buy it for me... He said alright but lets drive the accord just for fun. I said no, that car looks like an egg and its an old woman's car. He convinced me to drive the nicest sportiest accord they had on the lot and I actualy really enjoyed it a lot more than the civic... It had a much nicer interior, it was much faster and had navigation... But I still was in the mood to mod and hated the look of the car, so I told my dad that I wanted a body kit he reluctantly agreed and bought me a 2004 Accord V6 Ex 6-speed manual trans with navigation and every option in the book. And then he bought me a body kit for the car and had it painted and installed for me. I absolutly loved that car everyone wanted to look at me I thought I was the shit! (the car was not very ricey as it was all nicely done but lets just say I have an interesting past that I like to keep in my past LOL) I must have crashed that car a dozen times, doing stupid things and learning important life lessons along the way. After about 9 months of owning that car I opened my eyes to the european car seen and loved what I saw and of corse everyone liked to rag on me cuz I was the guy with the honda at the VW meets but I really didnt car every other car in my garage was euro and if I felt like taking the time to go home I could have easily showed up in a european car. It was at about this time that my love for the honda turned to resentment I didnt like the car at all anymore and when I told my dad he was furious. I told him that I wanted a german car and he looked at me like I was out of my mind and told me that he had just bought me the car that I said that I had wanted. At the time my grades were shit by the way like c's and d's I didn't care about school at all but he came to me one day and started yelling at me about my car and I made him an offer that aparently he couldn't refuse... The deal was I make all A's for the rest of the school year and I can have any car I want. He proceeded to ask me if I was on drugs and how in the hell I was going to pull that off when I was nearly failing half of my classes and doing poorly in the rest of them. He thought for sure that he would not be buying me a new car anytime soon and to this day he cant believe it but within a little over two weeks every one of my grades was an A. I went and told him about my grades and he said that is good but the deal is that you have to keep them up till the end of the year I said no problem as long as you are wiling to keep up your end of the bargain... The end of the year came and I had made the A honor role and my dad said allright have you picked a car? I told him that I wanted an E46 330ci ZHP he said allright and we went to the dealership... They did not have any ZHP's and were very short stocked on E46's there was almost nothing to pick from and you couldnt order an E46 to be built anymore. I had seen the new 3 and had even test driven it before and while I liked the way that the car drove I really liked the styling of the ZHP more... Slowly I started to fall in love with the E90 and within a month or two the car had grown on me so much that I decided to buy one... I now drive the car of my dreams, it took a lot of work on my end for me to get this car but it was all worth it and then some. I am so careful with this car it is not even funny, while there are many people who are not appreciative of what they have I am not one of them I keep my car clean and waxed all of the time I love buying things for it and while I do plan on modding the car everything that I want I feel is much more classy euro look. I will never buy another body kit at least in the near future and everything that goes on this car will be only the best... Also I think it is important to note that while my dady bought the car I am paying for any modifications myself and as any of you know who have looked into it that is a lot of the money when you buy the best of the best so I fully expect to keep this car for a long time and that is fine with me because I am going to keep it as perfect as I possibly can.
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