[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Where is https://www.formula1.com based? Great Britain?

They have totally forgotten about Charlie

In London town,SW1Y 4AH England

[Killed by Death]

At the end of the third day of testing, we can finally confirm that Ferrari is struggling to find the right setup for the SF-25. The car has changed significantly from 2024, requiring more work than in previous years. McLaren is currently ahead, but this is not the SF-25’s true potential.
Today's adjustments aimed to expand the data pool for analysis, helping refine the simulator, which will be crucial for optimizing the car ahead of Melbourne. So much work to be done.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

At the end of the third day of testing, we can finally confirm that Ferrari is struggling to find the right setup for the SF-25. The car has changed significantly from 2024, requiring more work than in previous years. McLaren is currently ahead, but this is not the SF-25’s true potential.
Today's adjustments aimed to expand the data pool for analysis, helping refine the simulator, which will be crucial for optimizing the car ahead of Melbourne. So much work to be done.

Hold on a second...

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

At the end of the third day of testing, we can finally confirm that Ferrari is struggling to find the right setup for the SF-25. The car has changed significantly from 2024, requiring more work than in previous years. McLaren is currently ahead, but this is not the SF-25’s true potential.
Today's adjustments aimed to expand the data pool for analysis, helping refine the simulator, which will be crucial for optimizing the car ahead of Melbourne. So much work to be done.

The 2025 Ferrari SF25 trick is a 99% new car with a clear goal: "Championship success" (!)
The first analyses reveal a new floor already tested in 2023(!)
The latest images from 'Fiorano show an updated inlet for the Venturi channels, now with a raised internal channel. This small elevation is designed to create an additional 'vortex, helping to direct the airflow under the car more effectively.
According to F1 technical expert Carlo Platella the design of the floor manages to deliver the ‘trick’ of improved stability, particularly in high-speed corners, allowing the SF-25 to extract more performance from a variety of circuits much like how McLaren’s car was in 2024

=> https://thejudge13.com/2025/02/24/fe...lready-tested/

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Hold on a second...

Susie Wolff (!) OMG ...

[GuidoK]

I think the testing in Abu Dhabi wasn't very surprising.
It's basically a continuation of the end of last season from what we all know:
McLaren has the fastest car, by far.
Ferrari probably now has the 2nd fastest car, and I think they did the most development during the winter.
RB has the 3rd fastest car and has to battle both Ferrari and Mercedes. McLaren is completely out of reach.
Mercedes has done some development.
Williams sets the fastest times. So they went with full engine power and low fuel load, that result won't be repeated in the races
And for the rest it's same old same old; teams can really only gain slight advantages on their platforms by using half legal/half illegal flexi wings.

I think most teams did very little development and are all putting their resources in the 2026 ruleset. Ferrari probably spent the biggest budget and time on the 2025 car. It might be enough to defeat RB, but not McLaren. That's what I'm expecting in 2025.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Susie Wolff (!) OMG ...

Should be cooking, washing, ironing and darning socks lol

[GuidoK]

You wonder if Susie Wolff can be impartial with her husband having a very big financial interest in F1, being 33% MERC team owner.

I mean, do you trust a judge to pass an objective sentence if his/her spouse is the accused?
I'm sure no one would permit a judge to take seat in such a situation!

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Should be cooking, washing, ironing and darning socks lol

I'm pretty sure , Susie has no idea what that is...

But Susie as the FIA president , that would be very helpful for Toto...

Ja Toto mein liebling , es ist offensichtlich .Ich kann alle geheimnisse mit dir teilen (!)

#SusiesPillowTalk (!)

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

I'm pretty sure , Susie has no idea what that is...

But Susie as the FIA president , that would be very helpful for Toto...

Ja Toto mein liebling , es ist offensichtlich .Ich kann alle geheimnisse mit dir teilen (!)

#SusiesPillowTalk (!)

Toto has lost LEW so Suzie is just trying to cheer him up but if he snores then it's the spare room for him

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

You wonder if Susie Wolff can be impartial with her husband having a very big financial interest in F1, being 33% MERC team owner.

I mean, do you trust a judge to pass an objective sentence if his/her spouse is the accused?
I'm sure no one would permit a judge to take seat in such a situation!

It's known as Conflicts of Interests in lawyers circles.

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

I think the testing in Abu Dhabi wasn't very surprising.
It's basically a continuation of the end of last season from what we all know:
McLaren has the fastest car, by far.
Ferrari probably now has the 2nd fastest car, and I think they did the most development during the winter.
RB has the 3rd fastest car and has to battle both Ferrari and Mercedes. McLaren is completely out of reach.
Mercedes has done some development.
Williams sets the fastest times. So they went with full engine power and low fuel load, that result won't be repeated in the races
And for the rest it's same old same old; teams can really only gain slight advantages on their platforms by using half legal/half illegal flexi wings.

I think most teams did very little development and are all putting their resources in the 2026 ruleset. Ferrari probably spent the biggest budget and time on the 2025 car. It might be enough to defeat RB, but not McLaren. That's what I'm expecting in 2025.

I was looking at some of the data yesterday posted on the lap times. RB was running very low engine mode and very high fuel. When they went from the C3 to the C2, their lap times dropped by 1 second. There is more there than meets the eye. I think Mclaren looked ok but they were pushing it a bit more and definitely have some rear stability problems. Ferrari's car doesnt really look very good in long run pace as they have massive degradation which is going to mean they go a bit backwards in races. MB looks ok but I think they look better than they actually are.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

I was looking at some of the data yesterday posted on the lap times. RB was running very low engine mode and very high fuel. When they went from the C3 to the C2, their lap times dropped by 1 second. There is more there than meets the eye. I think Mclaren looked ok but they were pushing it a bit more and definitely have some rear stability problems. Ferrari's car doesnt really look very good in long run pace as they have massive degradation which is going to mean they go a bit backwards in races. MB looks ok but I think they look better than they actually are.

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

There is more there than meets the eye.

Indeed there's always more than meets the eye, we see that every year.
But to me it's difficult to predict who's gonna have the better car, RB or Ferrari.
That McLaren will be fastest....I think most will agree on that.
And of course it was cold this year in Abu Dhabi.
So how the cars will behave when it's hot...that's another thing.
I agree that Mercedes probably won't be as fast as in this testing session. Especially when it's a hot track.

[E92inNC]

One good thing about the increased races per season outside of the obvious more races for us fans is that in season development is much more important.

Even if a team gets off on the wrong foot, there’s ample time to turn things around even if it’s race 10 whereas their season’s fate would have been sealed a decade ago.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

I was looking at some of the data yesterday posted on the lap times. RB was running very low engine mode and very high fuel. When they went from the C3 to the C2, their lap times dropped by 1 second. There is more there than meets the eye. I think Mclaren looked ok but they were pushing it a bit more and definitely have some rear stability problems. Ferrari's car doesnt really look very good in long run pace as they have massive degradation which is going to mean they go a bit backwards in races. MB looks ok but I think they look better than they actually are.

And ...

Having less tire wear is more important than having the fastest car in the race.

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

Indeed there's always more than meets the eye, we see that every year.
But to me it's difficult to predict who's gonna have the better car, RB or Ferrari.
That McLaren will be fastest....I think most will agree on that.
And of course it was cold this year in Abu Dhabi.
So how the cars will behave when it's hot...that's another thing.
I agree that Mercedes probably won't be as fast as in this testing session. Especially when it's a hot track.

To me it's Mclaren and RB the fastest - but I do think RB was holding back more than Mclaren. Then it's probably Ferrari and MB but not sure who is faster there. Ferrari I do think screwed themselves whereas MB might be a bit better this year. I also am not sure how Nor is going to be able to handle the pressure and I think Pia wont have what it takes over a full season, but Max certainly operates more consistently than anyone.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

To me it's Mclaren and RB the fastest - but I do think RB was holding back more than Mclaren. Then it's probably Ferrari and MB but not sure who is faster there. Ferrari I do think screwed themselves whereas MB might be a bit better this year. I also am not sure how Nor is going to be able to handle the pressure and I think Pia wont have what it takes over a full season, but Max certainly operates more consistently than anyone.

Yeah . MAX always delivers regardless of the circumstances .

And I would love to see some rain races in this season. Then he will humiliate the rest of the grid again (as usual)!
Just remember the 2024 Brazilian heavy rain race . When MAX crossed the checkered flag .
The rest of the field wasn't in the same picture ...
MAX is "unbeatable" in the rain (!)

[dfox]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

It's known as Conflicts of Interests in lawyers circles.

Well here in the US, we don't know what a conflict of interest is any more, so maybe she can just pre-empt any challenges in a US court. I digress. Maybe Toto just steps down? Would he have to financially divest from Merc F1 too?


I'd guess Suzie would at least let the drivers curse without paying thousands in apology money...

FIA is also larger than just F1 obviously... Rally drivers are super pissed about the fines.

[dfox]

Stella thinks Williams will be top 4 this year. I'd love to see Carlos pull that team up. Not that Albon isn't a good driver, but he's not top tier level.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by E92inNC

One good thing about the increased races per season outside of the obvious more races for us fans is that in season development is much more important.

Even if a team gets off on the wrong foot, there’s ample time to turn things around even if it’s race 10 whereas their season’s fate would have been sealed a decade ago.

I'd honestly prefer more F1 content. Less races (especially in lower traffic countries) better consolidated race dates/locations (Maybe Race in continent by month or so? So there isn't back and forth- Europe/Asia/US/Europe/US etc)

and proper offseason. Less races mean more time to develop a better product - testing should be 2 weeks!! We should be having interviews with crew and engineers, actual technical talk and information. F1 right now is homoerotic media shots of drivers, dumb speculation and boring content like "where do I buy this shirt" and "look what tires they used for last year's testing"

Give us a proper off season, trades, tech talk and testing. This is pointless.

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by dfox

FIA is also larger than just F1 obviously... Rally drivers are super pissed about the fines.

True. However I think it was last year in the news that something like 85% of the FIA income comes from just F1.