[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by dgoldenz

If someone offered you $130k+ for a 991.1 you should take that and run. There’s always another car out there.

The only other car out there I want is a GT3/RS and that is certainly not a car I'd drive often. This car is a 1:1 Paint to Sample car and it's a car I will pass down one of my daughters one day.

Originally Posted by Alfisti

I have zero horny for any 911 with a turbo in it, even THE Turbo. It loses it's spirit as a sports car.

I agree - I owned both a 991.2 S and a 991.2T and also had a turbo 4 Cayman GTS as well and they do not provide the sense of occasion an N/A engine does so I have no desire. Both of my 718 GT4s though were great but still are not GT3s.

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by dgoldenz

991.1 S market prices are like $65-100k depending on mileage and spec. $130k is so ridiculously far over market that this would have to be the “I’m never selling it” car to turn down that kind of offer (unless you’re rich and just don’t care). You can get a highly spec’d low mileage 991.1 GTS for less. Lot of options in that price range. To each their own.

Sure, you can find a 991.1 GTS that isn't paint to sample, doesn't have PCCB, doesn't have manual, or most of the other desirable options for less.
The only reason I say this is because I toyed with the idea of getting something else and did receive offers very close to the original MSRP (and it wasn't from only a few people - even the dealer was at 100K for the trade-in) but didn't fancy a 992 especially for an extra 40-50K more. I own the car outright so no sense in needing to sell. Will enjoy it and pass it down to my kids. The 991.1 cars, especially a well optioned S will always be a desirable car especially since you are seeing fewer and fewer nicely spec'd manual cars out there.

[Alfisti]

The cheapest manual 991.1 coupe with less than 50K miles is listed at $76K USD and it is a low spec with an accident claim and generally looks a bit shabby. $130K is definitely on the high end but they exist and the ceramic brakes are worth a fortune.

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

The cheapest manual 991.1 coupe with less than 50K miles is listed at $76K USD and it is a low spec with an accident claim and generally looks a bit shabby. $130K is definitely on the high end but they exist and the ceramic brakes are worth a fortune.

Agreed - the 991 is the next 993 in terms of appreciation. PCCB, manual, and Paint to Sample are all worth well more than a steel, PDK, normal color car. And to think PTS was only $5,500 in 2013 and now would not cost 2X that price.

[Alfisti]

I think the 997.2 and 991.1 will be the 993 like coveted cars in 20 years time.

[Lucky1]

Hope so! I have a nicely spec’d 991.1 4S 7MT. But its not a garage queen, its driven so the miles do keep racking up.

All the complaints about steering and manual transmission not being good are rubbish. I have three BMW’s, 2 ///M’s and the Porsche is the best steering and best or as good as the best in shifting also. If older 911’s were better in either category they must have been wicked good to complain about the direction the 911 went after.

[Alfisti]

There's just a touch more on your fingertips with the 997 that's all, hardly a deal breaker.

[TXSTYLE]

Don't Look.

BUY!!!!!

[Pauly Wauly]

How many did you buy???

Originally Posted by TXSTYLE

Don't Look.

BUY!!!!!

[eliphil]

I bought my 2019 z06 to get a stick and I’m thrilled that I did. My dealer let me drive an almost new C8 hoping I would trade up. No can do for me. The c8 looks magnificent and handling is superb but seats are unforgiving and I’m not giving up my stick or raw power

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by TXSTYLE

Don't Look.

BUY!!!!!

Car is a beast. Love this car!

[TXSTYLE]

Originally Posted by Wauly

How many did you buy???

If I didn't have specific needs for 4 doors, I would have dropped a deposit when this car was announced. Instead, I have to settle on my upcoming M8 GCC.

[Pauly Wauly]

The fabricator at work has 2 of them. A black one and a white one. His and hers he says. From what I heard they are outstanding cars, but they don`t look that good to me in person, especially in certain colors.
I prefer the look of the C7.
To me, the C7 looks more like what a Corvette should look like

Originally Posted by TXSTYLE

If I didn't have specific needs for 4 doors, I would have dropped a deposit when this car was announced. Instead, I have to settle on my upcoming M8 GCC.

[Pauly Wauly]

When is the M8 GCC arriving/happening? That`s a pretty sweet machine

Originally Posted by TXSTYLE

If I didn't have specific needs for 4 doors, I would have dropped a deposit when this car was announced. Instead, I have to settle on my upcoming M8 GCC.

[TXSTYLE]

Originally Posted by Wauly

When is the M8 GCC arriving/happening? That`s a pretty sweet machine

Very soon...

[RM7]

Originally Posted by Wauly

The fabricator at work has 2 of them. A black one and a white one. His and hers he says. From what I heard they are outstanding cars, but they don`t look that good to me in person, especially in certain colors.
I prefer the look of the C7.
To me, the C7 looks more like what a Corvette should look like

C7 is a fantastic car, there is no doubt. Interior is nice. Chassis is fantastic. Definitely not something I would kick out of bed. They dialed it in real nice all around. I had a hard decision to make getting a Camaro 1LE instead of a C7, ultimately having a little more space won out, but the C7 is a great car for sure.

The C8 knocks it out of the park. GM not being afraid to do that is what is great about GM. Ford tries to repackage the mustang over and over and apart from that they sometimes have a GT40ish car that is so far removed from normal stuff that it's not really worth noting. Ford sure ain't taking those kind of chances.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by RM7

C7 is a fantastic car, there is no doubt. Interior is nice. Chassis is fantastic. Definitely not something I would kick out of bed. They dialed it in real nice all around. I had a hard decision to make getting a Camaro 1LE instead of a C7, ultimately having a little more space won out, but the C7 is a great car for sure.

The C8 knocks it out of the park. GM not being afraid to do that is what is great about GM. Ford tries to repackage the mustang over and over and apart from that they sometimes have a GT40ish car that is so far removed from normal stuff that it's not really worth noting. Ford sure ain't taking those kind of chances.

I’ve own a c5, c6 and I still have my c7z manual.

The c8z is in an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT league. Fit and finish, quality of materials and the way it drives.

For it to be a legal road car the way it came stock is actually pretty astonishing. From the sound, to the gas mileage, the type of engine of its kind in 2023, it’s remarkable.

While I am having a hard time deciding on keeping or selling my c7, there is absolutely no doubt how much better the c8z is to the c7.

[Pauly Wauly]

Yeah, Ford is coming out with the Mustang GTD, but starting at 300k and a limited run of 1000 or so, and Ford will use an allotment system similar to the one they used with the Ford GT, it`s basically just another car for the rich and famous.

Originally Posted by RM7

C7 is a fantastic car, there is no doubt. Interior is nice. Chassis is fantastic. Definitely not something I would kick out of bed. They dialed it in real nice all around. I had a hard decision to make getting a Camaro 1LE instead of a C7, ultimately having a little more space won out, but the C7 is a great car for sure.

The C8 knocks it out of the park. GM not being afraid to do that is what is great about GM. Ford tries to repackage the mustang over and over and apart from that they sometimes have a GT40ish car that is so far removed from normal stuff that it's not really worth noting. Ford sure ain't taking those kind of chances.

[nicholasn]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

I think the 997.2 and 991.1 will be the 993 like coveted cars in 20 years time.

991.2 over the 991.1 for sure. Better looking and brought the manual back to the GT3. 997.2 will probably be the most desirable overall at least since the 993 generation.

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by nicholasn

991.2 over the 991.1 for sure. Better looking and brought the manual back to the GT3. 997.2 will probably be the most desirable overall at least since the 993 generation.

GT3, sure but Carrera, the .1 is naturally aspirated, it lost it's soul in .2 guise.

[dgoldenz]

MSRP has arrived. Where’s the guy who said everything was sold out for 5 years and they’d forever be over MSRP? lol

From Corvetteforum:

Originally Posted by mjcvette

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[Road Trip]

Yes that is true for Stingrays, but for Z06’s that day is not yet here unless you are working with the very, very few dealers that have been at MSRP not one dollar more since day one, e.g., Criswell, Ciocca, MacMulkin, Les Stanford and a handful of scattered others. Believe it when you have walked out the door with the key fobs in hand and not paid any more than MSRP. Not going to get sued by anyone at any dealership so I will not say any more other than initial words and even emails promising MSRP and eventual purchase price can be ballparks apart. Let’s just say that what is being presented and out the door price do not match.