[fili92]

Originally Posted by renio

do you guys charge the battery up to 100% or rather 90% on regular basis?
I know for example with a Tesla it is advised to only charge up to 80 or 90% on daily/regular basis and only (a few times a year, not every week or so) charge to 100% when you are planning for a long trip.

My mother has an evoque p300e form April 2020 and every day she charges to 100%. No problem occurred until today

[MontyB1]

For the smaller battery and slower battery charging of the BMW PHEV it doesn't seem that charging to 100% causes much of an issue.

For us we were going to 90% before winter now 95% and more often 100%. I doubt the change will have much of an effect going forwards to be honest. The battery manages its charging and max charging within the software just enjoy the car for us.

[rahman]

Hi guys,

my x1 used to display ~84km with 95% and nowadays only displays ~68km. I live in portugal, and we are currently experiencing min 11º and max 20º celsius, although he is charged during the night, outside. Is it the same for you? it's because of the cold? it's quite a drop..

[Tunners]

Originally Posted by rahman

Hi guys,

my x1 used to display ~84km with 95% and nowadays only displays ~68km. I live in portugal, and we are currently experiencing min 11º and max 20º celsius, although he is charged during the night, outside. Is it the same for you? it's because of the cold? it's quite a drop..

There was a discussion on this a few days ago.

https://u11.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=2076678

[MontyB1]

Entirely normal, there is another thread with many saying the same. We are loosing as much as 15miles easily on a similar charge than in the middle of summer.

Why well for us its been -8º celsius, on some days, that means the batter is cold, the heaters are on, its dark and the lights are on, heated seat, steering wheel and maybe rear window demister all take power directly from the battery. The result is a significantly lower range in the winter months.

Ways to reduce it are pre-heat/condition the car before you leave so the battery and car are ready for the journey, even 10 minutes makes a difference. As the weather improves so will the range again.

[palimad]

I've heard about some chain issues with PHEV X1 (around 80000 kms) from BMW technician and he was discouraging me from buying it, telling me mild-hybrid is better option. Basically he said that BMW PHEV design is not optimal, as electronics can wake up cold engine any time and rev it up to high revs. Any engine issues you've encountered?

[gqbriel]

Originally Posted by palimad

I've heard about some chain issues with PHEV X1 (around 80000 kms) from BMW technician and he was discouraging me from buying it, telling me mild-hybrid is better option. Basically he said that BMW PHEV design is not optimal, as electronics can wake up cold engine any time and rev it up to high revs. Any engine issues you've encountered?

Dude stop stating that around in every possible PHEV topic...somebody told you about chain issues with X1...
First of all this is mostly US based forum - one of the first PHEV here was mine and i drive alot compared to average for my contry(and its around 29 000 where 12k is on ICE) and 80 000 kms a year is alot of driving unless its a taxi.
Also considering that that car mostly is in electric drive 80 000kms on ICE is absurdly alot.

Lets imagine there are issues - the car have 5 years and 150 000kms factory warranty...so unless you drive 100 000km in a year what the issue?



All M cars have bearing issues - so ?All Diesel engines have chain issues after 100k km and they need to be replaced...

[Fish Fingers]

Originally Posted by palimad

I've heard about some chain issues with PHEV X1 (around 80000 kms) from BMW technician and he was discouraging me from buying it, telling me mild-hybrid is better option. Basically he said that BMW PHEV design is not optimal, as electronics can wake up cold engine any time and rev it up to high revs. Any engine issues you've encountered?

Also - I thought your BMW tech friend said he can't even remember if it was an X1.

Nobody has responded to the affirmative to all your posts - so far makes me think there is no issue.
So there's your answer.

[palimad]

What does it mean electric top speed is 140 km/h. Does it mean it always use petrol engine only above that? Or electric motor can still aid the petrol engine in those speeds?

[mathys]

Originally Posted by palimad

What does it mean electric top speed is 140 km/h. Does it mean it always use petrol engine only above that? Or electric motor can still aid the petrol engine in those speeds?

Max speed in electric only mode is 140 kmh, it will start the petrol engine to go faster normally.

Use the build in GPS for the car to decide what power source to use in hybrid mode.
Indeed multi stops can help, when coming back to your starting point without an intermediate charge.

PHEV batteries normally take a 100% charge better due slower charging.
Worst is to have it sit at 100% for a long time. Use it.

[palimad]

Originally Posted by mathys

Max speed in electric only mode is 140 kmh, it will start the petrol engine to go faster normally.

Use the build in GPS for the car to decide what power source to use in hybrid mode.
Indeed multi stops can help, when coming back to your starting point without an intermediate charge.

PHEV batteries normally take a 100% charge better due slower charging.
Worst is to have it sit at 100% for a long time. Use it.

But does it still use also electric motor above 140 (in tandem with petrol)? I guess so, to keep acceleration figures etc.

[Nel.Ezequiel]

If you going on motorway in electric mode and reach 140Km, in my case is between 142 and 144Km/h, it doesn't go further. I have pads, so the trick is to shift gear with pads up or down and the ICE start up, if you are uphill or in a big acceleration demand will use both engines, if you are coasting at 150Km or so will use the ICE mostly, when you get back to lower then 140km will use the electric engine only again.

I usually change to S mode and fix the 7th Gear so the car can go from as low as 80Km-90Km to the max speed (around 208Km) and if you speed up, it will use the electric motor to help with the torque, this way you can minimize the use of petrol and you have a great acceleration all the time, the instant consumption never goes over 13l per 100Km. It's an X1 30E.

[boupas]

Any updates or issues from PHEV owners ?

[Gaffer_H]

Originally Posted by boupas

Any updates or issues from PHEV owners ?

What do you want to know?

Covered around 4500 miles in my 25e, it’s faultless, ID9 works well and the engine/electric motor is very economical.

[Fish Fingers]

Originally Posted by boupas

Any updates or issues from PHEV owners ?

The 30e is working really, really well for us (wife's car). She adapted to phev life just fine.

Fast, cheap to run (lots of local miles on battery and occasional long drives) and very practical. On the long journeys it will happily use mostly petrol using 'maintain battery' if needed. All local journeys are on electric.

Never charged it in the wild, always at home.

Had it 8 months and would buy exact same car again if we went back in time.
Always the acid test of car ownership for me.

Driving is a pleasure which in one word I would describe as 'refined'.
Light years ahead of her previous X2 2l petrol MSport in all aspects, especially driving dynamics and refinement.
Grip is excellent in winter.
Seats and interior are very good.

Also great as we are having to ferry ageing parents round a bit now and the extra height is useful.

Makes me want to get back in a BMW (EV) for my next car.
Finally, it also looks great in Portimau Blue with MSport gloss black detail.

No negatives I can think of.....
Very strong 'highly recommemded' from me.

[Gaffer_H]

Originally Posted by Fish Fingers

The 30e is working really, really well for us (wife's car). She adapted to phev life just fine.

Fast, cheap to run (lots of local miles on battery and occasional long drives) and very practical. On the long journeys it will happily use mostly petrol using 'maintain battery' if needed. All local journeys are on electric.

Never charged it in the wild, always at home.

Had it 8 months and would buy exact same car again if we went back in time.
Always the acid test of car ownership for me.

Driving is a pleasure which in one word I would describe as 'refined'.
Light years ahead of her previous X2 2l petrol MSport in all aspects, especially driving dynamics and refinement.
Grip is excellent in winter.
Seats and interior are very good.

Also great as we are having to ferry ageing parents round a bit now and the extra height is useful.

Makes me want to get back in a BMW (EV) for my next car.
Finally, it also looks great in Portimau Blue with MSport gloss black detail.

No negatives I can think of.....
Very strong 'highly recommemded' from me.

You’ve boxed that off well, I think the same however mines the 25e, still shifts too.

Sounds like yours is a similar spec, mines finished portimao blue also, lovely colour when clean.

[U11sirgawain]

11500 kilometers on my 30e. All local driving under battery, but a number of +600Km trips without any range anxiety, stopping just for streching my legs, not for a need to recharge or even refill.
Plenty of power available!
Very happy with my choice!
(Just unhappy with idrive stupid limitations on saving certain modes as default, and lack of idrive wheel control....but seems that BMW AG wants its lower series models owners to feel as second rate BMW owners, no matter how spec ed up your car is)

[Posseidox]

I am genuinely impressed by the efficiency of the PHEV system. The transition between the combustion engine and the electric motor is seamless. The estimated range has proven to be quite accurate, and maintaining the battery level is effective. With the vehicle being charged every night, daily driving results in negligible fuel consumption.

I have also observed that the battery can be charged while using the combustion engine by engaging Sport mode. During a 30-minute drive, I increased the battery range from empty to approximately 10 kilometers.

[Gaffer_H]

Originally Posted by Posseidox

I am genuinely impressed by the efficiency of the PHEV system. The transition between the combustion engine and the electric motor is seamless. The estimated range has proven to be quite accurate, and maintaining the battery level is effective. With the vehicle being charged every night, daily driving results in negligible fuel consumption.

I have also observed that the battery can be charged while using the combustion engine by engaging Sport mode. During a 30-minute drive, I increased the battery range from empty to approximately 10 kilometers.

Using sport mode to charge the battery hammers the fuel consumption from the engine.

[MontyB1]

Had a good spirited drive in the wife’s 25e the other day, it picks up really well accelerating past cyclists and the engine has a nice bit of character being 3cylinder. I was having great fun with it until my wife said ok that’s enough.

I think it I was buying one for me I’d go for the Hybrid over the M35i for the noise and how nice it is to drive around town and the responsiveness. Plus it’s better looking than the new X3 to my eyes at least.

[Gaffer_H]

Originally Posted by MontyB1

Had a good spirited drive in the wife’s 25e the other day, it picks up really well accelerating past cyclists and the engine has a nice bit of character being 3cylinder. I was having great fun with it until my wife said ok that’s enough.

I think it I was buying one for me I’d go for the Hybrid over the M35i for the noise and how nice it is to drive around town and the responsiveness. Plus it’s better looking than the new X3 to my eyes at least.

Mines the 25e and makes a decent noise without the iconic sounds on, I have to say I do like the fake noise being pumped through the speakers in sport mode though, childish I know.

I still cant work out whether it’s as quick as my previous car which was a 45 TFSIe Audi with the same power output.

[MontyB1]

Yeah I don’t mind it either, it’s plenty punchy enough for our congested roads and most situations, the electric motor helps with the early punch a pure ICE car just can’t react that fast.