06-10-2023, 03:11 PM | #89 | |
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But again - subjective feeling - for me it changes but can not say they are electronically adjusted or not. Thats a personal opinion |
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06-10-2023, 04:35 PM | #90 |
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Hello guys! I have in possession an U11 X1 23i european model with m pack and m suspension. I’m pretty sure i can feel the difference how the car interacts with bumps on personal and sport mode!
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06-11-2023, 08:23 AM | #92 | |
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06-11-2023, 12:15 PM | #93 |
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I would highly doubt BMW has different definitions/parts of adaptive across markets. I mean, they are so lazy/budget that they couldn't even be bothered to give right hand drive cars a different center console lid that opens properly on the "correct" side. They just recycled the LHD version ones. (clearly just venting here). So I expect these cars to just share the same parts across US and RoW. At the same time I am not keeping my hopes up that these dampers are truly adaptive with all the sensors to do fancy stuff.
In any case, I suppose the only way to really put this to rest is if someone has photos of the actual dampers, parts diagram, and/or service manual for these cars ... time will tell ... |
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06-11-2023, 12:52 PM | #94 |
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Taken from the UK Online Configurator. It explains Exactly what the suspension is.
"M Adaptive Suspension £0 M Adaptive Suspension has a stiffer spring/damper set-up with the vehicle lowered by 15mm. It features frequency-selective damping elements: mechanical, self-regulating system with regulation depending on road condition and driving style. The M Sport steering gives a more direct steering feedback with lower steering effort. Available as standard on X1 M Sport models plus the iX1 xDrive30 xLine model." And here's an article explaining How Frequency Selective Dampers work. https://www.koni-na.com/en-US/NorthAmerica/Car-SUV/FSD/ Last edited by JFDIT; 06-11-2023 at 01:01 PM.. |
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06-12-2023, 09:11 AM | #96 |
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while it's probably silly for me to compare apples to oranges.... a family member still has a 20-year-old 325i in mint condition.(i.e. spent way more money than the car is worse to maintain it )
That old 325i handles way better than my new X1 in the numerous curves and hills in my part of the town. For example, there's a sharp curve 1/4 miles from my home. In my X1, it can only take the curve at around 35mph. Any faster than that, I can hear the tires screeching and starting to lose contact. If I drive through the same curve in the 20-year-old 325i, even 50mph is very doable without losing any grip, not to mention fun. (yes, I do realize that one is a proper BMW sedan and one is a small SUV) |
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06-12-2023, 09:29 AM | #97 |
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..so I have read a million articles about this and still haven't received a definitive answer. Does the M suspension provide a smoother experience in downtown drives with a lot of potholes or is it stiffer than the normal suspension?
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06-12-2023, 09:35 AM | #98 |
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I recently drove my X1 to NYC/Newark area...which probably has the highest concentration of potholes on the East Coast. My X1's M suspension handled those potholes just fine.... meaning not too harsh. Although I do have the 18" M wheels with 225/55/18 tires, so they probably absorb more of the shock?
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06-12-2023, 09:52 AM | #99 |
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From reading many posts in the forum, it seems like the standard suspension is smoother over bumps and potholes, though the M Sport with smaller wheels is also good or at least better than the 20". This is my own conclusion, it may not be 100% accurate so please conduct your own research before taking the final decision.
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06-12-2023, 10:37 AM | #100 |
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M-Sport is fine for us but it's definitely stiffer than the standard suspension was in the X-line spec we get int he UK. If you want a smoother and less sporty ride then going for the standard not M-sport is the way to go.
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10-14-2024, 09:34 AM | #101 |
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It is stiffer than the normal suspension, better word to describe it is active, not adaptive. Btw if something has M in the name in BMW world it usually means stiffer and sportier.
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10-14-2024, 10:29 AM | #102 |
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don't forget that if BMW puts "M" on anything, it also means "Money"! it will cost you extra money.
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