[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by Tambohamilton

I'm no Saint...I just don't lie. What's the point?

Maybe I come across as totally dull to the fairer sex. Maybe I am totally dull. But I'd always prefer to set low expectations and better them, than the other way around.

P.S. Can you give an example of a lie that you've told to further your conquests?

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I'm in no place to argue whether or not you do. It's hard to believe given we are human, but I'll just take your word(s) at face value. At this stage in my life I share your sentiment, but with that said…..I can't say that I've never ever lied to a woman, especially as a youngin' chasing tail.

Originally Posted by M5Rick

I congratulate you fellow countryman for being one of the honest ones.

None of us are kids any more, I believe. In that spirit, there is NO reason to lie in adult relationships. That is the beauty of them. No need to posture, inflate or do any of the BS people do when they are young.

A lie is an automatic disqualification when I was dating. It is not just bad form, it's stupid and manipulative. When a lie is told, choice is taken away from the other person in the relationship. It's despicable.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

None of us are kids any more, I believe. In that spirit, there is NO reason to lie in adult relationships. That is the beauty of them. No need to posture, inflate or do any of the BS people do when they are young.

A lie is an automatic disqualification when I was dating. It is not just bad form, it's stupid and manipulative. When a lie is told, choice is taken away from the other person in the relationship. It's despicable.

Hence the operate word: ever. I just find it hard to believe any man has never lied to a woman to gain leverage (…or the converse). In any case, no need to beat the dead horse. Back to Sara and her bent knee proposal.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Tambohamilton

P.S. Can you give an example of a lie that you've told to further your conquests?

I just listed at least 8 common fibs a guy or girl might tell in order to gain or not lose ground.

Here's an easy one…..


….You're single and dating, and you are on your way home from sexin' a chick. You get a call from another chick you have interest in who needs help because her car battery died. You agree to go help because of the aforementioned interest……plus, you're just a nice guy, right?!?! While there she thanks you and asks/comments, "Sorry to inconvenience you. Where were you coming from?"

Now….

….What dude in here truly says, "I had just finished smashing Sally when you called me and asked for help." Or the converse…..what woman in here truly says, "Brad had just finished dickin' me down when you called and asked for help."

Even if you padded it by saying, "I was coming from a friend's house," the typical follow-up questions about whether or not it was a male/female friend, if you're hooking up with him/her, etc. would follow.

Of course, I call B.S. at the notion that 99% of men would be that honest unless they're a dick or truly have zero concern about how that chick [they have interest in] would react.

I highly doubt most people are completely honest about how many men or women they've slept with either, be it for fear of judgment or [insert reason here].

[King Rudi]

Originally Posted by Cyn-BMW

Not only weird, but in some states it’s illegal, if you lie to someone and have sexual relations with them. It’s a form of rape.

This is alarming. Food for thought, have you ever had sex with someone that you NEVER told a lie to?

Bunch a damn rapists up in here.

[wtwo3]

Off-topic in OT:

What are people's general perception of these brands:

Louis Vuitton
Burberry
Gucci
Fendi

Any one considered better than the others? How would you rank them and why?

[Chihuahua]

Originally Posted by King Rudi

This is alarming. Food for thought, have you ever had sex with someone that you NEVER told a lie to?

I have, once, when I was in my 20s. If I say the conversation with [insert name here] consisted of 200 words, I might be overestimating. Had we gotten to 300 words, I'm sure the BS spewing would have commenced. I think anyone that claims to have never, ever, EVER lied in any type of sex or romantic situation, EVER in their lives is either pathological or lying (oh the irony).

[UncleWede]

"I am lying"
-Capt Kirk

[vreihen16]

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[rebekahb]

Originally Posted by wtwo3

Off-topic in OT:

What are people's general perception of these brands:

Louis Vuitton
Burberry
Gucci
Fendi

Any one considered better than the others? How would you rank them and why?

Are you asking in general or regards to a type of item?

[wtwo3]

Originally Posted by rebekahb

Are you asking in general or regards to a type of item?

I guess both? In general and specific to leather goods like purses/wallets

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by King Rudi

This is alarming. Food for thought, have you ever had sex with someone that you NEVER told a lie to?

Bunch a damn rapists up in here.

Originally Posted by Chihuahua

I have, once, when I was in my 20s. If I say the conversation with [insert name here] consisted of 200 words, I might be overestimating. Had we gotten to 300 words, I'm sure the BS spewing would have commenced. I think anyone that claims to have never, ever, EVER lied in any type of sex or romantic situation, EVER in their lives is either pathological or lying (oh the irony).

This!


Women lie all of the time. My favorite post sex lie…"That was the best D I've ever had!"…..yeah chick, sure. Lol!

[Chihuahua]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

This!


Women lie all of the time. My favorite post sex lie…"That was the best D I've ever had!"…..yeah chick, sure. Lol!

My experience has been that when women lie, they lie by omission rather than bold faced lies to my face.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Chihuahua

My experience has been that when women lie, they lie by omission rather than bold faced lies to my face.

I think that's probably true for us men too.

[shoei]

Originally Posted by wtwo3

Off-topic in OT:

What are people's general perception of these brands:

Louis Vuitton
Burberry
Gucci
Fendi

Any one considered better than the others? How would you rank them and why?

That's kind of a difficult question. Example, Fendi is known for purses and high quality furs.
LV and Gucci have sworn off furs some years ago. Burberry is primarily outerwear and fragrances. Gucci started off making high quality luggage lol.

Regardless, same company owns 2 of the brands you've mentioned. LVMH owns LV and Fendi.

Hermes probably trumps all. If memory serves me correct, their last eval was just shy of 650 billion.

Portfolio wise, LVMH is probably the most powerful of luxury goods. LV, Fendi, Tiffany's, Dior, Bulgari, Marc Jacobs, etc.

I don't wear furs or carry handbags or wear heels so from a men's perspective, none of the brands have too much appeal to me. However, I have a few Burberry scarves for example. Couple of Marc Jacobs peacoats, I like my suits from a brand not mentioned in your list. Same for dress shoes.

[shoei]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I think that's probably true for us men too.

Nah nah nah. Women lie before they walk out the door. Hair extensions / colors to make hair longer/fuller/different colors, make up to hide blemishes, push up bras for obvious reasons, heels to look taller, etc etc.

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

This!


Women lie all of the time. My favorite post sex lie…"That was the best D I've ever had!"…..yeah chick, sure. Lol!

It's the best at that MOMENT!!

[Cyn-BMW]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I would love to see the specific wording of any law like that. I know there are laws and case precedent regarding lying about your medical status/disease history and laws prohibiting removing a condom without the other party knowing, but I'm not familiar with any law that says a person can't lie [in general] to obtain sex. We'd all be guilty of that were the case.

All it takes is a 5 second internet search. And, speak for yourself. I’ve never lied to get laid. In fact, I’m trying to remember when I have lied to any woman. If you have to lie to get laid, you definitely have no game and are pure Scum! With a capital S. It’s just creppy AF!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_deception

[Cyn-BMW]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I'm in no place to argue whether or not you do. It's hard to believe given we are human, but I'll just take your word(s) at face value. At this stage in my life I share your sentiment, but with that said…..I can't say that I've never ever lied to a woman, especially as a youngin' chasing tail.

It’s called being a decent human being. You should try it mate!

[Cyn-BMW]

Originally Posted by King Rudi

This is alarming. Food for thought, have you ever had sex with someone that you NEVER told a lie to?

Bunch a damn rapists up in here.

I don’t lie to women. Or anyone, for that matter.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Cyn-BMW

All it takes is a 5 second internet search. And, speak for yourself. I've never lied to get laid. In fact, I'm trying to remember when I have lied to any woman. If you have to lie to get laid, you definitely have no game and are pure Scum! With a capital S. It's just creppy AF!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_deception

The Massachusetts case is just simply rape. The San Francisco case was just simply stupid. The Norwalk case was just simply rape.

Those are not indications that it's illegal to lie in order to obtain sex. They are far more nuanced than that, especially the San Francisco case (…which meets the criteria of extortion). You are not interpreting the law correctly.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Cyn-BMW

It's called being a decent human being. You should try it mate!

Originally Posted by Cyn-BMW

I don't lie to women. Or anyone, for that matter.

Oh geez! Give it a rest. We've now established you're the one human on planet earth who never ever lies……and who has never ever lied……to anybody.

[shoei]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Oh geez! Give it a rest. We've now established you're the one human on planet earth who never ever lies……to anybody.

Except on the forums.

Someone gets awful defensive over convos on "lies" or take comments personally. I wonder why that is…….