[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by MPSdriver

i4 xDrive40, 400 hp... interessting, any ideas how it relates to the M50 drivetrain hardware wise

The rear unit will almost certainly be different, likely the same as used on eDrive40. Can't say anything about the front one.

[lemetier]

Originally Posted by supra93

ynguldyn lemetier

Supposedly the Supra is getting a manual. Does that mean the Z4 will also get one?

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/toy...d-video.12219/

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IMO a low volume single year run ///M Roadster would be a wise decision, but who knows how many good decisions remain in the building…

[NightWriter]

ynguldyn Any reason to suspect the LCI(-lite) G80 may drop the Base (6MT) model?

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by NightWriter

ynguldyn Any reason to suspect the LCI(-lite) G80 may drop the Base (6MT) model?

The way you ask this question actually contains in itself the reason I can't answer it. LCIs are considered as separate models, and so I can see which models will be offered at LCI, which ones will be replaced or cancelled. With the M cars, an LCI is not formally considered as such, so all I know is the original production starts and ends as they were planned before the model launch. Marketing conditions often result in premature model cancellations but since they are driven by sales and not engineering, they are invisible to me. Cases in point: early cancellations of F1x 6 series or G32 in the US market. I never knew about those until they were reported by others.

[NightWriter]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

The way you ask this question actually contains in itself the reason I can't answer it. LCIs are considered as separate models, and so I can see which models will be offered at LCI, which ones will be replaced or cancelled. With the M cars, an LCI is not formally considered as such, so all I know is the original production starts and ends as they were planned before the model launch. Marketing conditions often result in premature model cancellations but since they are driven by sales and not engineering, they are invisible to me. Cases in point: early cancellations of F1x 6 series or G32 in the US market. I never knew about those until they were reported by others.

Fair enough, and thanks for your insight as usual. The rumored take rate on the Base/6MT is around 15-20%; do you have any special knowledge about whether this is accurate, and/or whether BMW is dissatisfied with that share?

[PLF69]

Originally Posted by NightWriter

Fair enough, and thanks for your insight as usual. The rumored take rate on the Base/6MT is around 15-20%; do you have any special knowledge about whether this is accurate, and/or whether BMW is dissatisfied with that share?

Not surprised they actually put effort in making the 6MT offering less appealing...

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by NightWriter

Fair enough, and thanks for your insight as usual. The rumored take rate on the Base/6MT is around 15-20%; do you have any special knowledge about whether this is accurate, and/or whether BMW is dissatisfied with that share?

More like 25% since the introduction but the last few months it's been all about the AWD version, with both Base and RWD Comp falling far behind.

[Game]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

More like 25% since the introduction but the last few months it's been all about the AWD version, with both Base and RWD Comp falling far behind.

Very true. I handle the orders at my store and I haven't had a single comp RWD order since the AWD release. Very few base 6 speed as well.

[JoshinaF10]

nice

[MoralFiber]

G05 X5/G06 X6/F95 X5M/F96 X6M
In production until 07/26 (G05, F95) and 03/27 (G06, F96)
LCI in 04/23.

Can someone explain how this works as this is not clear to me? They produce the current model till the 26th of July 2022 and after that they start producing the LCI model?

Till when can you order the regular model and from which date you need to order to get the LCI model ?

[Game]

Originally Posted by MoralFiber

G05 X5/G06 X6/F95 X5M/F96 X6M
In production until 07/26 (G05, F95) and 03/27 (G06, F96)
LCI in 04/23.

Can someone explain how this works as this is not clear to me? They produce the current model till the 26th of July 2022 and after that they start producing the LCI model?

Till when can you order the regular model and from which date you need to order to get the LCI model ?

It would need to be the stores August allocation which they should receive the last week of June.

edit -misunderstood the post

[ewoody]

„G05 X5/G06 X6/F95 X5M/F96 X6M
In production until 07/26 (G05, F95) and 03/27 (G06, F96)
LCI in 04/23.

Can someone explain how this works as this is not clear to me? They produce the current model till the 26th of July 2022 and after that they start producing the LCI model?

Till when can you order the regular model and from which date you need to order to get the LCI model ?"

Its not 26th of July 2022, its July 2026! LCI will come April 2023!

[MightyMouseTech]

Originally Posted by supra93

ynguldyn lemetier

Supposedly the Supra is getting a manual. Does that mean the Z4 will also get one?
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That is probably because the new M240 can be had with a manual, which is also the same chassis. Doubt the Z4 will ever see one.

[Game]

Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

That is probably because the new M240 can be had with a manual, which is also the same chassis. Doubt the Z4 will ever see one.

Where'd you hear this?

[MoralFiber]

So if the LCI is available in march 2023. Till when can you order the regular model and from which date you need to order to get the LCI model ?

Originally Posted by ewoody

„G05 X5/G06 X6/F95 X5M/F96 X6M
In production until 07/26 (G05, F95) and 03/27 (G06, F96)
LCI in 04/23.

Can someone explain how this works as this is not clear to me? They produce the current model till the 26th of July 2022 and after that they start producing the LCI model?

Till when can you order the regular model and from which date you need to order to get the LCI model ?"

Its not 26th of July 2022, its July 2026! LCI will come April 2023!

[lemetier]

Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

That is probably because the new M240 can be had with a manual

Nein

[IllSic_Design]

Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

That is probably because the new M240 can be had with a manual, which is also the same chassis. Doubt the Z4 will ever see one.

uhhm, you know that the Supra is based off the Z4 chassis right?? Not saying anything will happen with the Z4 getting a manual

[Game]

Originally Posted by MoralFiber

So if the LCI is available in march 2023. Till when can you order the regular model and from which date you need to order to get the LCI model ?

Your dealers January/February 23 allocations.

[AR_Motorwerkz]

Hope a stick would be available for the Z4! Its like driving a nicer miata with more powah!

[MightyMouseTech]

Originally Posted by IllSic_Design

uhhm, you know that the Supra is based off the Z4 chassis right?? Not saying anything will happen with the Z4 getting a manual

Which is what I wrote.

[MightyMouseTech]

Originally Posted by Game

Where'd you hear this?

Sorry, I stand corrected. It will be the new M2 which will be available with a manual, so BMW will have a manual option on that same chassis.

[mbanck]

Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

Sorry, I stand corrected. It will be the new M2 which will be available with a manual, so BMW will have a manual option on that same chassis.

The other correction is that the Z4 can be had with a manual - in certain markets, and just the 20i (197 PS), but still.