Lewis!

racerbruce · 06-23-2019, 05:25 PM

SCH @ 91
HAM @ 79
12 to tie
13 to lead
13 races left this yr....

wdb · 06-23-2019, 05:37 PM

I think back on what the Mercedes team was when Lewis joined, and how far the team has come. Pretty remarkable. It makes me wonder if Ricciardo can motivate Renault in a similar way, or if Lando Norris can do the same at McLaren. It's very interesting to watch what kind of effect a gifted driver can have on an entire racing team, especially when those teams are the size and complexity of an F1 team.

Poiseuille · 06-23-2019, 05:57 PM

53 of 53!

Poiseuille · 06-23-2019, 06:00 PM

also, the mystery of the Great Canadian Flannel Shirt Shortage may have been solved after the French GP==>

wdb · 06-24-2019, 06:40 AM

Sir Jackie always dresses like that. So maybe you're right. ;-)

madmax240 · 06-24-2019, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racerbruce

SCH @ 91
HAM @ 79
12 to tie
13 to lead
13 races left this yr....

Thanks, I was trying for find the calendar for the rest of the year.

madmax240 · 06-24-2019, 07:32 AM

I'm not sure right now, but I also calculated that if LH wins 3 more races, he can then come 2nd in every race for the rest of the season and still win the WDC.

racerbruce · 06-24-2019, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Poiseuille

also, the mystery of the Great Canadian Flannel Shirt Shortage may have been solved after the French GP==>

Hilarious!
Well done.

MKSixer · 06-26-2019, 12:22 PM

I'll just leave this here...

https://racer.com/2019/06/24/wolff-c...the-best-ever/

thebishman · 06-26-2019, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MKSixer

I'll just leave this here...

https://racer.com/2019/06/24/wolff-c...the-best-ever/

As someone who has followed/watched F1 for > 40 years, there is no doubt in my mind that he is the GOAT.

Poiseuille · 06-26-2019, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MKSixer

I'll just leave this here...

https://racer.com/2019/06/24/wolff-c...the-best-ever/

well MK, i am now able to admit that i'm almost there. as we have discussed, for me there has been one GOAT for 50 years. i am working on a new plan i think may help me overcome my reluctance: let there be a skinny-tires-GOAT and a fat-tires-GOAT.
what do you think?

MKSixer · 06-26-2019, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poiseuille

well MK, i am now able to admit that i'm almost there. as we have discussed, for me there has been one GOAT for 50 years. i am working on a new plan i think may help me overcome my reluctance: let there be a skinny-tires-GOAT and a fat-tires-GOAT.
what do you think?

I like this plan but maybe we can call it Aero-GOAT and Mechanical-GOAT.

To capture the types of grip they each worked with? What say you, sir?

wdb · 06-26-2019, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poiseuille

well MK, i am now able to admit that i'm almost there. as we have discussed, for me there has been one GOAT for 50 years. i am working on a new plan i think may help me overcome my reluctance: let there be a skinny-tires-GOAT and a fat-tires-GOAT.
what do you think?

Ah Jimmy. He's my personal GOAT and probably always will be. But in the grand scheme I think it's hard to come anywhere near Fangio.

yco · 06-26-2019, 05:29 PM

F1 cars have eras and drivers also.. there is no best driver in all.. but there are few names in the top 5 or 10 as a whole package..

Poiseuille · 06-26-2019, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdb

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poiseuille

well MK, i am now able to admit that i'm almost there. as we have discussed, for me there has been one GOAT for 50 years. i am working on a new plan i think may help me overcome my reluctance: let there be a skinny-tires-GOAT and a fat-tires-GOAT.
what do you think?

Ah Jimmy. He's my personal GOAT and probably always will be. But in the grand scheme I think it's hard to come anywhere near Fangio.

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Poiseuille · 06-26-2019, 11:35 PM

^^^ took a cell phone pic in 2017 of this very car (with its original tanks, engine cover and nose) in Modena. notice the original nose had a LANCIA insignia==>

racerbruce · 06-26-2019, 11:40 PM

Non-aero era....Fangio

Aero era....Prost....my rationale is the amount of steering input to achieve an optimal result....Prost had such little input to achieve greatness.

yco · 06-27-2019, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racerbruce

Non-aero era....Fangio

Aero era....Prost....my rationale is the amount of steering input to achieve an optimal result....Prost had such little input to achieve greatness.

Prost? this is very interesting.. and yes he had such little input to win sometimes.. like winning races behind closed doors in FIA room or accepting team offers only if he believes he s faster than the other driver.. im not sure you re aware of his dirty side..

wdb · 06-27-2019, 11:00 AM

MKSixer · 06-29-2019, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racerbruce

Non-aero era....Fangio

Aero era....Prost....my rationale is the amount of steering input to achieve an optimal result....Prost had such little input to achieve greatness.

Quote:

Originally Posted by yco

Prost? this is very interesting.. and yes he had such little input to win sometimes.. like winning races behind closed doors in FIA room or accepting team offers only if he believes he s faster than the other driver.. im not sure you re aware of his dirty side..

Indeed it was the FIAllain back then. Jean Marie Balestre was a corrupt as they come and did all he could to ensure Prost won the championship with the controversial ruling on Senna re entering the track in which he was DQ'd.

If steering input is important to you, racerbruce watch HAMs hands, especially in qualifying. He has very quiet hands which belies the pace at which he's driven his cars. Any cars. McLaren or Mercedes.

wdb · 06-30-2019, 09:27 PM

LeClerc’s hands in Austria Q3. Just sayin’.

Poiseuille · 08-04-2019, 02:41 PM

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