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      03-16-2014, 11:12 AM   #111
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      03-16-2014, 11:19 AM   #112
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      03-16-2014, 11:37 AM   #113
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http://en.espnf1.com/australia/motor...ry/149695.html

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Daniel Ricciardo has been stripped of his second place finish at the Australian Grand Prix after his car was considered to be in breach of fuel flow regulations.

According to the FIA sensor fitted to the car, the Red Bull exceeded the maximum allowed fuel flow of 100kg per hour, and after over five hours of deliberations the stewards ruled the car was run illegally. They stated the car was not only in breach of the fuel flow regulation (Article 5.1.4 of the technical regulations) but also Article 3.2 of the sporting regulations, which requires team to ensure compliance with the technical regulations throughout the event.

Red Bull made clear that it intends to appeal the decision.

The debate over the legality of the car centres on the FIA fuel flow sensor fitted within. After differences between the sensor's readings and the team's readings during Friday practice, Red Bull fitted a new sensor on Saturday, which failed during qualifying. For the race the FIA technical representative instructed the team to revert to the original sensor from Friday and apply an offset to make up for the discrepancies in the readings.

Red Bull considered the original fuel flow sensor to be unreliable and for the start of the race chose to use its "internal fuel flow model ... with the required offset" instead. However, a technical directive issued on March 1 states that only the FIA, and not individual teams, can decide if an alternative fuel flow measure can be used.

"If at any time we [the FIA] consider that the sensor has an issue which has not been detected by the system we will communicate this to the team concerned and switch to a backup system," read an extract from the FIA technical directive (TD/ 016-14).

According to the governing body, the FIA technical representative contacted the team during the race saying the fuel flow was too high and gave them "the opportunity to follow his previous instruction and reduce the fuel flow such that it was within the limit ... and thus gave the team the opportunity to be within compliance". However, the team did not make the correction.

The stewards therefore found that:

"The team chose to run the car using their fuel flow model, without direction from the FIA. This is a violation of the procedure within the procedure within TD/ 016-14.

"That although the sensor showed a difference in readings between runs in P1 [first practice], it remains the homologated and required sensor against which the team is obliged to measure their fuel flow, unless given permission by the FIA to do otherwise.

"The stewards were satisfied by the explanation of the technical representative that by making an adjustment as instructed, the team could have run within the allowable fuel flow.

"That regardless of the team's assertion that the sensor was fault[y], it is not within their discretion to run a different fuel flow measurement method without the permission of the FIA.

"The stewards find that Car 3 [Ricciardo] was out of compliance with the technical regulations and is therefore excluded from the results of the race."

Red Bull will appeal the decision and released the following statement:

"Following the decision of the FIA that Infiniti Red Bull Racing is in breach of Article 3.2 of the FIA Formula One Sporting Regulations and Article 5.1.4 of the FIA Formula One Technical Regulations with Car 3, the Team has notified the FIA of its intention to appeal with immediate effect," a statement from the team read.

"Inconsistencies with the FIA fuel flow meter have been prevalent all weekend up and down the pit lane. The Team and Renault are confident the fuel supplied to the engine is in full compliance with the regulations."


Read more at http://en.espnf1.com/australia/motor...Kyt19P1MyfJ.99
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      03-16-2014, 11:51 AM   #114
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Ugh, gutted for Ricciardo. What an effort to be negated by something like this.
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      03-16-2014, 12:17 PM   #115
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Such a huge disappointment for Ricciardo, but on on the positive side RBR currently have 0 WDC and 0 WCC points
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      03-16-2014, 01:01 PM   #116
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Phenomenal pics as always. Thanks for sharing!
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Dominance by Mercedes. Just the first race, though. Great drives by Ricciardo, Magnussen, and Bottas. Shame about Ricciardo's penalty. Certainly not his fault, but rules are rules. So Magnussen gets 2nd place in his first race. Stunning.

I didn't watch every second of the practices, but through all the other broadcasts I never heard anyone mention the passing of Jenson's father. Not sure why that is.
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Super long season ahead. But looks good for Mercedes.
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Watching quali last night made me miss the wail of the V8's but I do absolutely love the clean slate and the new challenges the drivers/teams are forced to deal with in the coming years to improve performance and reliability. F1 was starting to get stale in the last year or two...or three.
I feel the same way about the V10s.
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Kobayashi with a bit of bad luck that got passed on to Massa. Kobi lost his brakes and poor Massa was once again in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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I feel the same way about the V10s.
lol I started following F1 in 2009 so didn't have the pleasure of the monsters outside of watching old videos. Wish I would've tho.

+1 for RIC, drove a great race along with MAG and BOT
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Great potential from ricciado
We can see what he can do given a decent pace car
All Renault need to solve their reliability issue , then red bull and lotus can be quite competitive
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Such a huge disappointment for Ricciardo, but on on the positive side RBR currently have 0 WDC and 0 WCC points
Won't last long
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Great potential from ricciado
We can see what he can do given a decent pace car
All Renault need to solve their reliability issue , then red bull and lotus can be quite competitive
I agree although part of me wants Renault to not fix anything. I'd really like to see Mercedes or Williams take it this year.
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Great potential from ricciado
We can see what he can do given a decent pace car
All Renault need to solve their reliability issue , then red bull and lotus can be quite competitive
Agree on Ricciardo, great talent but I think the car needs a bit more than just reliability given the race pace of the Mercedes. Williams however looks to have a rocket of a car. Bottas 15th => 6th => Puncture => 19th => 6th and just looking how he moved in the field it's a seriously fast car and we didn't get to see Massa. Williams could be the main competition to Benz in early season until RBR and Ferrari find more pace.
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The McLaren looked quick as well and they were reliable. If McLaren can get back to their old self and advance the car as the season goes on. I could see them in contention. Ferrari was proven to be reliable as well.
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Was so good to be there at the race and watch Ricciardo come second.

Great crowd, great atmosphere, and now this.

Aussie fans not happy on our Facebook page.

Oh well, time for Malaysia
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Vet ran the proper fuel rate. Ric ran the increased rate. Ric would have been just as slow as Vet during the race. Either way 0 points for Infinity RBR

Who would have ever guessed quiet, hybrid & turbo powered F1 cars. They might as well go diesel too.
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      03-16-2014, 07:23 PM   #129
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They might as well go diesel too.
Don't give Jean Todt any bright ideas. We'll end up with two cylinder hybrids running on used cooking oil.
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Don't give Jean Todt any bright ideas. We'll end up with two cylinder hybrids running on used cooking oil.
Hehe, nbc had a special on the changes for this year and one comment stod out. It was something like:

"Biggest change ever for F1, the top goal used to be to entertain but now it is to be a leader in fuel saving technologies"

Pretty much sums it up for the cars but not the racing. It's more entertaining then in a very long time.
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I don't understand why the fuel flow rate is even an issue. The FIA set a fuel limit per race/car, why does it matter what rate the teams choose to use as long as they can get through the entire race and have enough left for sample due to the regulation requirements. Seems pretty offing stupid to me
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