[Mr Tonka]

Originally Posted by Joekerr

I have a stupid question. At least I'm fairly certain it is stupid.

Silencers are not legal up here, so I've only had the opportunity to shoot a suppressed 1911 in the States, and that was only once. So I'm not that familiar with them.

But as I understand it, the basic principles of a silencer are a set of baffles / ports within the silencer tube which allows the gas to dissipate / expand into, which reduces the sound the gun makes. In a nutshell.

Idle curiousity here - if you were to wrap / encase a muzzle brake in steel / etc - would it then basically serve the same function as a suppressor?

In practice, yes, who would do this, but just idle curiosity on my part. I'm not planning on doing any such thing to my own.

Suppressors aren't legal in Canada? How many people have been beat to death wth a suppressor up there? Geez.

Yes to your understanding of a suppressor.

No, you're idea of a make shift suppressor won't reduce much sound and could adversely affect ballistics.

You can make your own with a set of spacers and washers inserted into a main tube. It is legal to make your own here, but you still have to register it and get a NFA tax stamp for it. It is $200 but it's like an 8 month wait or something ridiculously longer. (to buy or make one)



There is some hearing protection act going through legislation that could take suppressors off of the NFA list. My friends are gonna be pissed when you can just go buy a suppressor at walmart when that passes.

Easiest way to make your own is to use an oil filter.

[EJT86]

Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

Sure sure, making your own isn't legal either. I can just buy one here in wa with exemption think it's 200 for tag or something.

Try threading on a 2 liter full of Mt dew. One time use and you will wet t shirt contest every time

Does a bottle or sprite work or strictly Mountain Dew?

[Joekerr]

I have to say the oil filter is pretty cool. Ghetto but certainly works at "protecting your hearing".

I was an idiot one time at the range - brought my neighbour who hadn't shot before, set everything up, nobody else is there. So I'm thinking about my mental checklist, have eyes on, etc, good to go I thought.

But I was missing ear protection (and my rifle has a muzzle brake so it sounds even louder to the shooter). Well, I send one down range...the two of us were in a little pain for the next few minutes from the sound. Without hearing protection - that thing is loud! Not even a big gun, just a .308.

[Patrick303]

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

you still have to register it and get a NFA tax stamp for it. It is $200 but it's like an 8 month wait or something ridiculously longer. (to buy or make one)

I purchased 2 suppressors in November and submitted all my form 4 paperwork and tax stamp fees. I check back with the gun shop every now and then on status of previously purchased NFA items and right now they're staying it's about a 10 month wait.

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

There is some hearing protection act going through legislation that could take suppressors off of the NFA list. My friends are gonna be pissed when you can just go buy a suppressor at walmart when that passes.

Hopefully this will actually pass. The bill is written so that anyone who purchased a tax stamp as far back as 2015 will be "reimbursed" in some way. I'm betting if this passes, suppressors will be really hard to find for the first few months while suppliers try to fill the demand.

[Mr Tonka]

Originally Posted by Joekerr

I have to say the oil filter is pretty cool. Ghetto but certainly works at "protecting your hearing".

I was an idiot one time at the range - brought my neighbour who hadn't shot before, set everything up, nobody else is there. So I'm thinking about my mental checklist, have eyes on, etc, good to go I thought.

But I was missing ear protection (and my rifle has a muzzle brake so it sounds even louder to the shooter). Well, I send one down range...the two of us were in a little pain for the next few minutes from the sound. Without hearing protection - that thing is loud! Not even a big gun, just a .308.

I watch movies and see people shooting in small rooms while talking to each other and just think how effing deaf they would be after a few mags full of full auto rifle fire.

Last Friday at the range with a friend shooting .308 suppressed and the bullet hitting the back stop was louder than the bullet leaving the muzzle. LoL

[silvergray545]

Originally Posted by Joekerr

I have to say the oil filter is pretty cool. Ghetto but certainly works at "protecting your hearing".

I was an idiot one time at the range - brought my neighbour who hadn't shot before, set everything up, nobody else is there. So I'm thinking about my mental checklist, have eyes on, etc, good to go I thought.

But I was missing ear protection (and my rifle has a muzzle brake so it sounds even louder to the shooter). Well, I send one down range...the two of us were in a little pain for the next few minutes from the sound. Without hearing protection - that thing is loud! Not even a big gun, just a .308.

I started shooting many years ago without hearing protection. I was young and didn't know any better. I've had tinnitus for 10+ years now. It's unfortunate but now I'm able to share why hearing protection is very important.

[Mr Tonka]

Originally Posted by silvergray545

I started shooting many years ago without hearing protection. I was young and didn't know any better. I've had tinnitus for 10+ years now. It's unfortunate but now I'm able to share why hearing protection is very important.

This is why people need mentors.

[1MOREMOD]

Originally Posted by EJT86

Does a bottle or sprite work or strictly Mountain Dew?

In my testing Mt dew seems to suppress best.

[Axius]

Originally Posted by silvergray545

I started shooting many years ago without hearing protection. I was young and didn't know any better. I've had tinnitus for 10+ years now. It's unfortunate but now I'm able to share why hearing protection is very important.

I welded without a mask in HS, woke up at what was probably 1am with eyes watering glued shut. Thought I was blind. Crawled to bathroom and felt around to get a cold washcloth on my face. Had school at 7. Finally got eyes barely open around 6.

Easy lesson learned. Eyes and ears no matter what. Cant get that shit back. Take care of them like a newborn.

[silvergray545]

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

This is why people need mentors.

I don't need your shit now, Tonka!

Originally Posted by Axius

I welded without a mask in HS, woke up at what was probably 1am with eyes watering glued shut. Thought I was blind. Crawled to bathroom and felt around to get a cold washcloth on my face. Had school at 7. Finally got eyes barely open around 6.

Easy lesson learned. Eyes and ears no matter what. Cant get that shit back. Take care of them like a newborn.

Live and learn. Glad it wasn't worse for you.

[Mr Tonka]

Get it while you can.

Edit: I said....GET IT WHILE YOU CAN.

[silvergray545]

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

Get it while you can.

Edit: I said....GET IT WHIKE YOU CAN.

[Monster335]

thx for all the reponses, i got a really good deal on vortex spitfire 3, gonna give that a try first

[c1pher]

Originally Posted by Axius

I welded without a mask in HS, woke up at what was probably 1am with eyes watering glued shut. Thought I was blind. Crawled to bathroom and felt around to get a cold washcloth on my face. Had school at 7. Finally got eyes barely open around 6.

Easy lesson learned. Eyes and ears no matter what. Cant get that shit back. Take care of them like a newborn.

During one of my assignments when I was in the Navy, we had some guy escort a welder and watch him without protection. He was 20/20, but instantly transformed into wearing coke bottle glasses. He was told to wear eye protection but was too cool for that.

[Axius]

Originally Posted by MGM135is

During one of my assignments when I was in the Navy, we had some guy escort a welder and watch him without protection. He was 20/20, but instantly transformed into wearing coke bottle glasses. He was told to wear eye protection but was too cool for that.

Probably the dumbest thing anyone could do. I figured all I had to do was weld my initials on my project real quick and it wouldn't be a big deal..., yeah it ended up being a huge deal.

[KenB925]

I picked up my CZ, California laws/rules are so dumb (not that this is news).

To pick it up, after 10 days, I brought my Drivers License, Carry Permit (at least I don't have to have 'safety card' in addition), and another piece of address verification (current car reg.)

Then I had to demonstrate that I could safely load, unload, and show clear.

If this was a first firearm purchase, some of this could make sense, not when you have a CCW, and multiple firearm purchases under your belt.

[Mr Tonka]

Originally Posted by KenB925

I picked up my CZ, California laws/rules are so dumb (not that this is news).

To pick it up, after 10 days, I brought my Drivers License, Carry Permit (at least I don't have to have 'safety card' in addition), and another piece of address verification (current car reg.)

Then I had to demonstrate that I could safely load, unload, and show clear.

If this was a first firearm purchase, some of this could make sense, not when you have a CCW, and multiple firearm purchases under your belt.

I was very close to walking out of the LGS today with an Ed Brown Special Forces 1911. Good thing i didn't bring my stash of cash with me.

[KenB925]

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

I was very close to walking out of the LGS today with an Ed Brown Special Forces 1911. Good thing i didn't bring my stash of cash with me.

I've got one of those too, very nice piece!

You should probably go back and get it

[Mr Tonka]

I don't think i can bring myself to buy another 1911. If anything i might sell my nighthawk and get another one that isn't a bull barrel.

But i do have some gun money burning a hole in my pocket. What should i get? Leaning towards pistol. Maybe rifle but nothing larger than a 5.56. The same LGS had a KAC SR-25 in stock... I'm pretty sure i'd get that before another 1911.

What caught my eyes this morning were..... Ruger take down .22, ZEV glock G19, WWII government 1911 ($550), IMI X95, Geissele trigger for my 9mm Tavor, SIG 226 Navy.

[KenB925]

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

I don't think i can bring myself to buy another 1911. If anything i might sell my nighthawk and get another one that isn't a bull barrel.


What caught my eyes this morning were..... Ruger take down .22, ZEV glock G19, WWII government 1911 ($550), IMI X95, Geissele trigger for my 9mm Tavor, SIG 226 Navy.

I have a standard 10/22, I plan on getting a takedown as soon Magpuls new stock is available, no need to buy one yet (for me) because they keep coming out with new variations.

ZEV G19, smh, I have 'hot rodded' a glock 34 with Lonewolf parts, and a comp trigger, the trigger is nice, but its still a Glock (for good and bad), I also shot a full custom G19 at an event I went to, it was also still a Glock, did nothing for me.

I put a Timney in my Tavor, (the Geissele wasn't available, but I like Timney anyway) makes a big difference, because of the linkage involved its still not as crisp as a custom trigger in an AR, but so much better then stock.

I have a 226 Navy, I prefer the CZ-SP01 so much over the 226, I have brought both to the range for 3 new/getting back into shooters, they all have preferred the CZ, one of them hunted one down and bought it within a week (which is NOT easy to do in CA). The only down side argument that I can make about the CZ is if you are clearing a malfunction under stress there is less slide to get a hold of.

If you are even considering Ed Brown money, check out the CZ Tactical Sport, for a range toy. Its so good it like cheating, very light comp. trigger, cool gun!

[KenB925]

CZ-TS for your viewing pleasure

[Mr Tonka]

I don't shoot CZ pistols very well. Same for SIG pistols really. I just want to like the 226 Navy.

As unexciting as they are, i shoot glocks very well. If i can find the right deal, i'll likely get the 10-22 and the trigger pack for the Tavor. Last time i put several hundred down range with the Tavor my damn forearm was sore the next day from pulling that 12 pound trigger! lol

Hopefully that will put the flames out for a while. I really don't need any more guns... even though the correct number of guns to own is N +1, with N representing the current number of guns you own.