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      03-02-2023, 11:27 AM   #1409
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People are already having issues here.

Our winters kill the range of EVs, you have slow charging, and Tesla's have issues with door opening due to ice (tesla issue tbh)

Hybrids is the future.

Prepare to buy a Prius.
Rather have a LaFerrari.....maybe something in between is possible?
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      03-02-2023, 12:58 PM   #1410
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Being angry they make profit isn't the issue, making RECORD profits when they complain that "inflation is affecting us" is.
Revenue =/= profits.

When prices increase, so does revenue if volume remains the same. Profit is a different formula.
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      03-02-2023, 01:32 PM   #1411
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Evs were the slowest but now are the fastest depreciating things around and come lease end time there's going to be some pain as many 10000s of generic teslas will flood the market bringing down the price of all of them. This is in addition to the musk effect of cutting the price of them.
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Hey guys! Just read on another thread, from a news reel, that Germany and Italy are considering blocking the EU's proposal to ban the sale of gas cars because it would-be-unworkable to do that.
Opinions please.
There is a proportional representation system in most of the EU

Green party support is needed to function and they get their moneys worth by sticking to ice ban policies and converting 2 lane traffic to 1 lane cars 1 lane cycling and frustrating drivers and increasing pollution due to tailbacks but other parties have to work with them to form a government so their lunacy has to be accepted.

Unlike the rep v dem in us or con v lab in UK(this is why uk is especially effed because they don't need green support to function but still act weird and in a non practical way )
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Evs were the slowest but now are the fastest depreciating things around and come lease end time there's going to be some pain as many 10000s of generic teslas will flood the market bringing down the priceof all of them. This is in addition to the musk effect of cutting the price of them.
Actually, you are right. At least for Florida. My BMW dealership is loaded down with Tesla’s that were traded in and after what Musk did they’re worth even less than what they paid for them for the trade. It’s getting bad. That combined with the fact, the economy is tanking let’s see what happens.
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      03-02-2023, 03:08 PM   #1414
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There is a proportional representation system in most of the EU

Green party support is needed to function and they get their moneys worth by sticking to ice ban policies and converting 2 lane traffic to 1 lane cars 1 lane cycling and frustrating drivers and increasing pollution due to tailbacks but other parties have to work with them to form a government so their lunacy has to be accepted.

Unlike the rep v dem in us or con v lab in UK(this is why uk is especially effed because they don't need green support to function but still act weird and in a non practical way )
Tell me about it.
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You park your EV in your garage for the night, plug it in and turn in for the night, then you're awakened by your garage ablaze and collapsing and thank goodness the garage is detached from the house...or is it, I'm not scaremongering but is it not something worth thinking about before purchasing an EV?
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You park your EV in your garage for the night, plug it in and turn in for the night, then you're awakened by your garage ablaze and collapsing and thank goodness the garage is detached from the house...or is it, I'm not scaremongering but is it not something worth thinking about before purchasing an EV?
You are parking a gasoline bomb in there otherwise? Am I reading that right?
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You are parking a gasoline bomb in there otherwise? Am I reading that right?
There is a reason for everything.
'EV Battery packs have been known to catch fire through overheating and while being charged.
*More worryingly battery fire can erupt spontaneously, contamination of just a single cell during manufacture is one possible explanation'.

A gas car is very unlikely to catch fire in your garage unless you can smell gas from a fuel leak so you wouldn't then put it in the garage with a hot engine.

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There is a reason for everything.
'EV Battery packs have been known to catch fire through overheating and while being charged.
*More worryingly battery fire can erupt spontaneously, contamination of just a single cell during manufacture is one possible expiation'.

A gas car is very unlikely to catch fire in your garage unless you can smell gas from a fuel leak so you wouldn't then put it in the garage with a hot engine.
He knows all that bro. He was just firing a desperate shot.
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He knows all that bro. He was just firing a desperate shot.
Riiiiight, all the EVs being driven around are catching fire in the garage…
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      03-03-2023, 07:48 AM   #1421
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Riiiiight, all the EVs being driven around are catching fire in the garage…
That’s not what the man said. He said it’s way more likely for an electric vehicle to start a fire in a garage than a ICE vehicle. Are you denying that?
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Some people are fucking retarded lmaoooo
I generally thought people from your side detested that word. I know I do. You seem to be continually aggravated by people that have the audacity to think differently than you do. Now I know for sure you’re a millennial.
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He knows all that bro. He was just firing a desperate shot.
I figured that was the case.
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There is a reason for everything.
'EV Battery packs have been known to catch fire through overheating and while being charged.
*More worryingly battery fire can erupt spontaneously, contamination of just a single cell during manufacture is one possible explanation'.

A gas car is very unlikely to catch fire in your garage unless you can smell gas from a fuel leak so you wouldn't then put it in the garage with a hot engine.
Aside from the argument about which would more likely catch fire, there's the issue of which one can be put out more easily.

With firefighting methods, the only thing that can be done with a Lithium EV battery fire is to let it burn itself out and hopefully contain the fire. Very different from what can be done with a gasoline induced fire.
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Aside from the argument about which would more likely catch fire, there's the issue of which one can be put out more easily.

With firefighting methods, the only thing that can be done with a Lithium EV battery fire is to let it burn itself out and hopefully contain the fire. Very different from what can be done with a gasoline induced fire.
This also. A fire on an EV is almost impossible to put out however much water or extinguishant is turned on it and with reports of Tesla's flush door handles not working in such an event is concerning.
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I generally thought people from your side detested that word. I know I do. You seem to be continually aggravated by people that have the audacity to think differently than you do. Now I know for sure you’re a millennial.
what side is bgm on?
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I generally thought people from your side detested that word. I know I do. You seem to be continually aggravated by people that have the audacity to think differently than you do. Now I know for sure you’re a millennial.
Ironic post.

Count the posts you made in these ev threads and then count mine.

Then look at what you write in those posts and then look at mine.

Who’s really aggravated about all this?

2035 here we come! Lmaoooo
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Ironic post.

Count the posts you made in these ev threads and then count mine.

Then look at what you write in those posts and then look at mine.

Who’s really aggravated about all this?

2035 here we come! Lmaoooo
The only thing I’m aggravated with is your sides worship of government, forcing this on the people. Without that forcing electric vehicles would be nothing more than a novelty item that wealthy people would buy for fun. I must freely admit that does aggravate me. You seem to celebrate that though. More than celebrate I think. Mock it with humor even.
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The only thing I’m aggravated with is your sides worship of government, forcing this on the people. Without that forcing electric vehicles would be nothing more than a novelty item that wealthy people would buy for fun. I must freely admit that does aggravate me. You seem to celebrate that though. More than celebrate I think. Mock it with humor even.
But why does it matter? If what I’m saying annoys you ignore me. Simple as that.

But I don’t give 2 shits about your opinion, or your life your family or anything so what is the point?

If you hate ev that’s fine. Don’t get one. But you’re going to be getting one sooner or later if you’re still alive at that point.

But constantly bitching on this forum is entertainment for me.
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But why does it matter? If what I’m saying annoys you ignore me. Simple as that.

But I don’t give 2 shits about your opinion, or your life your family or anything so what is the point?

If you hate ev that’s fine. Don’t get one. But you’re going to be getting one sooner or later if you’re still alive at that point.

But constantly bitching on this forum is entertainment for me.
I don’t hate electric vehicles at all. I think they’re bad ass. I think Tesla and Elon musk are bad ass. Always have. I mean I do think Teslas are ugly but I also think I’m in the minority on that. And what I hate with an extreme passion and you seem to love is that the only reason electric vehicles besides Tesla are picking up steam is because it’s being forced on the world population by laws. I do hate that. You love it. That’s the difference.
As the technology improves, I’m sure I’ll buy one. More than likely it will be a BMW or a Porsche but I’m sure I’ll get one. Not because I’m forced to because I want to.
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