Firearms

Sara · 03-12-2017, 08:32 PM

I use these

Fundguy1 · 03-12-2017, 08:33 PM

Yup. They're ok but the speer is the best. Or the hornady. http://concealednation.org/2014/12/t...ncealed-carry/

1MOREMOD · 03-12-2017, 08:34 PM

Just a brand my flight control buckshot says that also i think

Sara · 03-12-2017, 08:34 PM

Serious question, can you draw your weapon on someone who attacks your friend and force them to lay on the ground until cops arrive to arrest them?

Fundguy1 · 03-12-2017, 08:37 PM

Depends on your state laws. In Florida is for 3 reasons. 1. You fear for your or someones life. A fight wouldn't qualify unless it got crazy.
2. Stop a rape
3. Someone invades your castle, which the legal definition is your house, car, or office.

M5essex · 03-12-2017, 08:39 PM

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She said she used 147 law enforcement ammunition....

Those are just hydroshocks. Hornady critical defense are better. Standard hollow points. Just says law enforcement on the box cause cops carry it too.

Ah, I capisce! Thanks

Fundguy1 · 03-12-2017, 08:39 PM

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Ah, I capisce! Thanks

Where are you from?

M5essex · 03-12-2017, 08:40 PM

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Ah, I capisce! Thanks

Where are you from?

England. Great county called Essex. You?

Sara · 03-12-2017, 08:40 PM

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Depends on your state laws. In Florida is for 3 reasons. 1. You fear for your or someones life. A fight wouldn't qualify unless it got crazy.
2. Stop a rape
3. Someone invades your castle, which the legal definition is your house, car, or office.

What about this situation. Guy I like, got his face broken. Like legit he has to have surgery now and whoever did it got away with it

Fundguy1 · 03-12-2017, 08:42 PM

An example of a time i wanted to draw but didn't because the law is stupid was to stop a pair of burglars from breaking into my next door neighbors house at 2 am. Instead i called the cops and they got away and burglarized 6 more homes in my neighborhood before they moved on.

Fundguy1 · 03-12-2017, 08:43 PM

Nope. Just a broken nose. If the dude started stomping the guy or had a bat then yes.

Fundguy1 · 03-12-2017, 08:44 PM

That above isn't life threatening. Drawing would be a felony.

M5essex · 03-12-2017, 08:46 PM

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Depends on your state laws. In Florida is for 3 reasons. 1. You fear for your or someones life. A fight wouldn't qualify unless it got crazy.
2. Stop a rape
3. Someone invades your castle, which the legal definition is your house, car, or office.

What about this situation. Guy I like, got his face broken. Like legit he has to have surgery now and whoever did it got away with it

wtf happened to Bjorn?? Did you pop a hollow tip cap in his ass...?

Sara · 03-12-2017, 09:09 PM

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wtf happened to Bjorn?? Did you pop a hollow tip cap in his ass...?

Bjorn just came into the picture less than 24 hrs ago. He goes on the back burner

Sara · 03-12-2017, 09:10 PM

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An example of a time i wanted to draw but didn't because the law is stupid was to stop a pair of burglars from breaking into my next door neighbors house at 2 am. Instead i called the cops and they got away and burglarized 6 more homes in my neighborhood before they moved on.

Shit. That's so unfair

Mr Tonka · 03-12-2017, 09:21 PM

You think one for every room in the house and every car in the garage is too much? lol

Pretty cool but other than mag capacity, i don't see much of an advantage since it's chambered in 9mm. May as well just put a 30rd glock mag in my center console. (to replicate this situation) Chamber it in 5.56 and you've got a serious tool to match threat escalation. If these aren't available in 5.56, i'm assuming the quick connect barrel can't handle the added pressure of a 5.56 cartridge.

Edit, Dolos has a 5.56 QD barrel system. Pretty cool.

Start at 3:45 to see the 5.56 QD barrel in action.

M5essex · 03-12-2017, 09:23 PM

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An example of a time i wanted to draw but didn't because the law is stupid was to stop a pair of burglars from breaking into my next door neighbors house at 2 am. Instead i called the cops and they got away and burglarized 6 more homes in my neighborhood before they moved on.

Many years ago a farmer in the U.K. Shot dead a thieving burglar scumbag who had repeatedly broken in to the farmers house and was sent to prison for murder.... go figure! How can we not be allowed to defend our 'castle' and our family from intruders and criminals? Even if we use a baseball bat or any other instrument on an intruder, over here we go down and the burglar walks free (if they survive) and can't be touched... f***ing madness. I have a samurai next to the bed and have a wife and 4 kids to protect, but even that is seen as premeditated if used on an intruder.?!?

08njSTEP · 03-12-2017, 10:04 PM

Keep that katana in the kitchen and leave a little cheese residue on it. It's your pizza cutter now and not a weapon, so no premeditation.

Sara · 03-12-2017, 10:05 PM

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Many years ago a farmer in the U.K. Shot dead a thieving burglar scumbag who had repeatedly broken in to the farmers house and was sent to prison for murder.... go figure! How can we not be allowed to defend our 'castle' and our family from intruders and criminals? Even if we use a baseball bat or any other instrument on an intruder, over here we go down and the burglar walks free (if they survive) and can't be touched... f***ing madness. I have a samurai next to the bed and have a wife and 4 kids to protect, but even that is seen as premeditated if used on an intruder.?!?

I love Louisiana. Here, we have the right to defend ourselves.

Sara · 03-12-2017, 10:07 PM

So if I feared for my friends life last night (had I been there) me drawing a weapon would have been justified

xyaaeg234g234 · 03-12-2017, 10:33 PM

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Depends on your state laws. In Florida is for 3 reasons. 1. You fear for your or someones life. A fight wouldn't qualify unless it got crazy.
2. Stop a rape
3. Someone invades your castle, which the legal definition is your house, car, or office.

#2 should be 'stop a forcible felony' - which rape obviously falls under but there are other crimes that do as well which if I recall from my class 8 years ago (damn reminds me I gotta renew), are valid in Florida.

Sara · 03-12-2017, 10:46 PM

So breaking someone's nose isn't a felony battery charge?

03-12-2017, 08:32 PM	#1497
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03-12-2017, 08:33 PM	#1498
Fundguy1 Major General 2045 Rep 8,339 Posts Drives: 335 e93 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Orlando, fl iTrader: (0)	Yup. They're ok but the speer is the best. Or the hornady. http://concealednation.org/2014/12/t...ncealed-carry/
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03-12-2017, 08:34 PM	#1499
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Sara Lieutenant General 5887 Rep 17,879 Posts Drives: A car Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nola iTrader: (6)	Serious question, can you draw your weapon on someone who attacks your friend and force them to lay on the ground until cops arrive to arrest them?
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03-12-2017, 08:37 PM	#1501
Fundguy1 Major General 2045 Rep 8,339 Posts Drives: 335 e93 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Orlando, fl iTrader: (0)	Depends on your state laws. In Florida is for 3 reasons. 1. You fear for your or someones life. A fight wouldn't qualify unless it got crazy. 2. Stop a rape 3. Someone invades your castle, which the legal definition is your house, car, or office.
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03-12-2017, 08:42 PM	#1506
Fundguy1 Major General 2045 Rep 8,339 Posts Drives: 335 e93 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Orlando, fl iTrader: (0)	An example of a time i wanted to draw but didn't because the law is stupid was to stop a pair of burglars from breaking into my next door neighbors house at 2 am. Instead i called the cops and they got away and burglarized 6 more homes in my neighborhood before they moved on.
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03-12-2017, 08:43 PM	#1507
Fundguy1 Major General 2045 Rep 8,339 Posts Drives: 335 e93 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Orlando, fl iTrader: (0)	Nope. Just a broken nose. If the dude started stomping the guy or had a bat then yes.
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03-12-2017, 08:44 PM	#1508
Fundguy1 Major General 2045 Rep 8,339 Posts Drives: 335 e93 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Orlando, fl iTrader: (0)	That above isn't life threatening. Drawing would be a felony.
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03-12-2017, 09:21 PM	#1512
Mr Tonka is probably out riding. 6062 Rep 2,292 Posts Drives: Something Italian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sweatypeninsula iTrader: (0)	You think one for every room in the house and every car in the garage is too much? lol Pretty cool but other than mag capacity, i don't see much of an advantage since it's chambered in 9mm. May as well just put a 30rd glock mag in my center console. (to replicate this situation) Chamber it in 5.56 and you've got a serious tool to match threat escalation. If these aren't available in 5.56, i'm assuming the quick connect barrel can't handle the added pressure of a 5.56 cartridge. Edit, Dolos has a 5.56 QD barrel system. Pretty cool. Start at 3:45 to see the 5.56 QD barrel in action. __________________ "There is no greater tyranny than that which is perpetrated under the shield of the law and in the name of justice. -Charles de Secondat" Last edited by Mr Tonka; 03-12-2017 at 09:30 PM..
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08njSTEP Captain 795 Rep 762 Posts Drives: '07 335i, '66 SS396 Chevelle Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Manchester, NH iTrader: (0)	Keep that katana in the kitchen and leave a little cheese residue on it. It's your pizza cutter now and not a weapon, so no premeditation.
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Sara Lieutenant General 5887 Rep 17,879 Posts Drives: A car Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nola iTrader: (6)	So if I feared for my friends life last night (had I been there) me drawing a weapon would have been justified
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03-12-2017, 10:46 PM	#1518
Sara Lieutenant General 5887 Rep 17,879 Posts Drives: A car Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nola iTrader: (6)	So breaking someone's nose isn't a felony battery charge?
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