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      01-16-2009, 02:31 PM   #133
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Sign off. "Ground check Ok could not duplicate" or "Ops checks good"
Did that a few times

One of the spare plane had a problem everytime you fly into the clouds, a loud high pitched static squeal would be heard thru the headset on the CA's side.
Checked the VHF antennas, R&R the ICU, checked coax cable to antenna connection for moisutre, unable to duplicate problem on ground, ops ck good

A week later a few of the pilots got fed up with it and they kept writing it up in the logbook and finally the plane was ferried to a heavy base to be put into the hangar for throughout troubleshooting, they found lighting strike burned the connectors to the ICU tray and rack bad. Replaced all of the connectors and did resistane check on the bonding straps and jumpers on every rack isolators. Test flight good, Problem never came back
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Sign off. "Ground check Ok could not duplicate" or "Ops checks good"
Lol that's what they do for everything. They MEL everything...hell sometimes I think if you tell them your engine is out they'll MEL that too and tell you you're good to go.
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Lol that's what they do for everything. They MEL everything...hell sometimes I think if you tell them your engine is out they'll MEL that too and tell you you're good to go.
The pilots dread having the AP MEL'ed, they don't want to hand fly a holding pattern for 30 mins.

When they complain a knob is not turning the HDG, A/T, SPD, ALT HLD, or whatever, I tell them no time to troubleshoot since your next departure is 30 mins away, they freak out an will take the a/c and 'forget' about the probelm
Twice captains have called my cell phone personally to see if I can do a quick fix or see what the problem is with the AP on MEL, I told them "yes I do know, sorry I don't have the parts in stock to fix it...it's scheduled to 'follow' the plane to a RON base.

I even threated to MEL a asshole captain and have the AP and FMS fly the plane
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The pilots dread having the AP MEL'ed, they don't want to hand fly a holding pattern for 30 mins.

When they complain a knob is not turning the HDG, A/T, SPD, ALT HLD, or whatever, I tell them no time to troubleshoot since your next departure is 30 mins away, they freak out an will take the a/c and 'forget' about the probelm
Twice captains have called my cell phone personally to see if I can do a quick fix or see what the problem is with the AP on MEL, I told them "yes I do know, sorry I don't have the parts in stock to fix it...it's scheduled to 'follow' the plane to a RON base.

I even threated to MEL a asshole captain and have the AP and FMS fly the plane
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The pilots dread having the AP MEL'ed, they don't want to hand fly a holding pattern for 30 mins.

When they complain a knob is not turning the HDG, A/T, SPD, ALT HLD, or whatever, I tell them no time to troubleshoot since your next departure is 30 mins away, they freak out an will take the a/c and 'forget' about the probelm
Twice captains have called my cell phone personally to see if I can do a quick fix or see what the problem is with the AP on MEL, I told them "yes I do know, sorry I don't have the parts in stock to fix it...it's scheduled to 'follow' the plane to a RON base.

I even threated to MEL a asshole captain and have the AP and FMS fly the plane
All jokes aside you guys do a great job, Thanks
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oh and all this boeing vs. airbus BS, stfu. both companies make quality products that rarely malfunction or they wouldn't be airworthy. to me, it's comparing apples to apples. for me, i prefer boeing because it's american-made and i'm more familiar with the planes. outside of that, whatever.
I prefer Boeing because I've never had it snow at my seat on one as I have on an Airbus.
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Lol that's what they do for everything. They MEL everything...hell sometimes I think if you tell them your engine is out they'll MEL that too and tell you you're good to go.
On the 747, you can MEL up to 2 brakes. Just cap off the brake lines to the worn out brake assembly as long it's on the body gear and not the wing gear. If there's a bad brake on the wing gear and I don't have a spare brake assembly, I swap it with the body gear brake and defer it

Flap track canoe fairing can be CDL'ed but there's a performance and fuel burn pently.

On the MD-11, I can defer the center landing gear by stowing it and locking it out. Once in a while a brake assembly would be shot or leaking, or I need to swap a bald or worn to cord tires from the mains, I swap it with the center gear and the center gear is basically a 'stow n store' for bad brakes and wheels.
The big downside to this? big hit on the MTOW....esp pisses off those with MD-11F's but they understand if they need it now instead of waiting til new wheels or brakes to arrive COMAT.

One time I had a ERJ-145 come to my station and it needed a service check...it just came from the heavy station from having it's leading edges replaced.
Had alot of 145's in C-check's at that time and most of the spares are picking up the lines of flight for the c-check 145's.
So instead of waiting for the sealant to dry (takes almost 72 hrs to fully cure!) they speed taped it over it and got the DMI paperwork done making it legal for flight...when it landed at my station, the crew was laughing and told me the pax were asking them if the wings are held on by duct tape!
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The big downside to this? big hit on the MTOW....
Yeah, I was gonna say, doesn't the middle landing gear touch down after the mains do. Now that you mention how MTOW is reduced if it's MEL'd, it makes sense.

2 brakes on the 747? No kidding lol.
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[QUOTE=777ER;3968924]On the 747, you can MEL up to 2 brakes. Just cap off the brake lines to the worn out brake assembly as long it's on the body gear and not the wing gear. If there's a bad brake on the wing gear and I don't have a spare brake assembly, I swap it with the body gear brake and defer it

Flap track canoe fairing can be CDL'ed but there's a performance and fuel burn pently.

On the MD-11, I can defer the center landing gear by stowing it and locking it out. Once in a while a brake assembly would be shot or leaking, or I need to swap a bald or worn to cord tires from the mains, I swap it with the center gear and the center gear is basically a 'stow n store' for bad brakes and wheels.
The big downside to this? big hit on the MTOW....esp pisses off those with MD-11F's but they understand if they need it now instead of waiting til new wheels or brakes to arrive COMAT.

One time I had a ERJ-145 come to my station and it needed a service check...it just came from the heavy station from having it's leading edges replaced.
Had alot of 145's in C-check's at that time and most of the spares are picking up the lines of flight for the c-check 145's.
So instead of waiting for the sealant to dry (takes almost 72 hrs to fully cure!) they speed taped it over it and got the DMI paperwork done making it legal for flight...when it landed at my station, the crew was laughing and told me the pax were asking them if the wings are held on by duct tape![/
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This has to be the company I used to fly for. Trans States Airlines
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TSA, wonderful airline and people I should add? hahah
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Yeah, I was gonna say, doesn't the middle landing gear touch down after the mains do. Now that you mention how MTOW is reduced if it's MEL'd, it makes sense.

2 brakes on the 747? No kidding lol.
I would say either at the same time or a fraction of a second after the mains, the middle gear is angled foward slightly.
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This has to be the company I used to fly for. Trans States Airlines
Nope it wasn't TSA.

no longer do contract work for TSA until further notice...
maybe they cancelled it or did not pay up for the last work done...yet they paid AOG dept and parts dept had a courier come to pick up a wiper motor

cheesy interiors they have... and WTF...yellow painted wing tips...must had alot of rampers smashing into their wingtips?

TSA = A airline run by Joe Blow...
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      01-17-2009, 06:38 AM   #146
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i think every passenger should be allowed to wear a parachute. if the plane is going down, we should all be able to eject from our seats and land safely in the ocean where sharks will eat us.
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Interesting side note 23 of the passengers on the plane works for bank of America, hmmmmm coincident? maybe

http://www.kansascity.com/news/break...ry/985318.html


http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...-hudson-river/
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Nope it wasn't TSA.

no longer do contract work for TSA until further notice...
maybe they cancelled it or did not pay up for the last work done...yet they paid AOG dept and parts dept had a courier come to pick up a wiper motor

cheesy interiors they have... and WTF...yellow painted wing tips...must had alot of rampers smashing into their wingtips?

TSA = A airline run by Joe Blow...
I think they need to paint the whole airplane yellow (ramper driving a tug)

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I think they need to paint the whole airplane yellow (ramper driving a tug)

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OUCH....someone got canned.
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I think they need to paint the whole airplane yellow (ramper driving a tug)

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Damn! this was TSA's 145?

I've had a pickup truck go under the back of a 145 one morning (don't know who, they parked the pickup truck at one corner of the ramp and left it in 'N', it rolled back and went right under the plane as it was being boarded.

Had to map out the damage, take pics, do a full aircraft jacking while the police and Port Authority was watching, GSE mechanic drive the truck out of under the plane, officals verifying the truck transmission shifter was working and brakes.

Damage wasn't that bad, a few stringers had to be replaced, and one big sheetmetal doubler.

I had it ferried to a heavy base to have the repair done, with the outflow valve locked up...a/c to be flown at or below 10,000 ft

Pics is on my office comp, will show them when I return to work.

Aside from that, replaced a wingtip that has been hit by a fuel tanker...some dent from a jetway hititng it that needed to be mapped out for a fly-by approval since it was out of SRM limits.

A engine change from major FOD.

Also roadtrip to JFK to replace the aileron and flaps on the RH wing on a ERJ-145 from being hit by a tug. It was at night and the baggage cart driver thought it was a Dash-8 and didn't expect the wing to be there...
one of my co-worker felt sorry for the driver
Replaced the critical parts, had it ferried to a heavy base for the rest of the damage to be repaired.
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Also roadtrip to JFK to replace the aileron and flaps on the RH wing on a ERJ-145 from being hit by a tug. It was at night and the baggage cart driver thought it was a Dash-8 and didn't expect the wing to be there...
Lmao. How do you mistake and ERJ 145 with a dash 8 lol. Dude was going with confidence thinking the wing is way up there...BAMMM. Can you imagine the look on his face?
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Lmao. How do you mistake and ERJ 145 with a dash 8 lol. Dude was going with confidence thinking the wing is way up there...BAMMM. Can you imagine the look on his face?
Yep...due to the severity of the damages and out of service for a few days then a week after the ferry...driver got the axe a week later.

I also have these writeups from the early days:

Problem (on a spare aircraft brought from a European airline):
'T/R not installed on this aircraft'

Corrective action:
Verified T/R not installed on this a/c, ops ck good.


write up: MFD display dim

corrective action: turned up brightness knob, ops ck good


write up: thrust levers slighty hard to move

corrective action: that's what the friction knob is for...loosen knob and ops ck good


writeup: upper right FMS button not working (as pointed out by the new jet-ego hyped up pilot)

corrective action: it's a knob! ops ck good.


Problem:
Main cabin door paint does not match aircraft (the cabin door was robbed off a c-check plane to replace the previous damaged one)

told the captain: "you want to fly today?"

he said "yes"

I said "then cross it out and write "Entered in Error"



Another one:
cabin too cold (powering on for the first flight of the day)
told the captain, fire up the APU then run the packs!

Last month:
'During deicing, felt a bang while operating pitch trim throughout it's range'
Return to Gate (a repositioning flight with no pax on board)
Corrective action: performed inspection of elevator jackscrew, no defects found, lubed jackscrew, ops ck good.

then the crew wrote the same crap up again because they don't want to take the plane...I become a asshole and tell them there's nothing I can do further and you're on your own.

Night shift supervisor comes to work and "lubes" the jackscrew and ops ck it good. Checks it out on another plane that's the same type and it's the jackscrew brakes engaging that's making the noise.

He aruges with them and told them to call dispatch and you're on your own for good.

Goes home...gets a text message and voice mail on his personal cell phone from the same friggin crew "plane no good! I can't take it!"
he calls maint. control and tells them what the crew just sent to his cell phone...maint. control noted it in the out of service troubleshooting notes.
The next morning, he comes to work overtime and told them to take a test flight...they fly it and nothing wrong with it.

Back to the airport, drops him off at the gate...then they just got a call from dispatch that they now have a 'repositioning flight' to the headquarters airport...they fly there...and the cheif pilot was waiting there at the arrival gate to talk to them....took them to the headquarters 15 mins away and into a meeting room with the DOM, dispatch, cheif crew, company personals and etc...they got suspended without pay for a week for grounding a fairly new plane for 2 days without a problem found.


and now this 'top annoying and idiot pilot' yesterday...always writes up "missing exterior inspection checklist" and I always mess with him by randomly putting a new exterior checklist inside the flight deck and wrote it off "installed 2 new exterior checklist" and told him to find it
On some days when I don't have any more laminated checklists in the parts room, I'd screw with him by writing "exterior checklist not required for flight, see your AOM for one."

this is the 10th time he done this crap...one day it was 3 planes in a row...yep you guessed it...the same captain!

all the maint. guys and gals hate him...he's basically 'blacklisted' at our base.


There's this new guy who started a couple of years ago, he came from Vietnam as a kid. His real first name? "Y" just the letter 'Y'.

And whenever maintenace control calls us and asks "who this i'm speaking to?"
I give the phone to him and he says "Y"
then maint. controller says "huh? i want to know who i'm talking to"
then he says "you're talking to him...Y"
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It wasn't birds that made the engine fall off. Excess weight from the flight attendants posing for pics on the engine.
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