Rap, Hip Hop Question

Los Angeles · 10-14-2008, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by inabis

Nas has ALWAYS been on some deeper level political and race stuff...from the beginning. Aside from Illmatic, all him other albums have had at least one song like this. I chalked it up to him being a teenager and being obsessed with money and cars. As people grow older they care less and less about materialistic things-unless you live in Cali

Maybe you never really listened to the albums but he's always been a community activist and political. I'm not trying to diss you or anything but maybe you just skipped over these songs??

But to your credit, he has been A LOT more political and community oriented than ever now....I personally think that's just because of Obama.

+1.

Nas has grown up and moved on.

He's said all that he has to say about cars and looking fly.

Now, he puts politics and worldly issues first, and the fly clothes and slang lingo is secondary.

Before, it was the other way around when he first started his career.

Nas has a family, dude is grown up, he's moved on. He's been there and done the things a lot of rappers are still talking about. He's one of the pioneers of "fly raps". Him, Biggie, Jay-Z.

Anyways, Nas is the same guy he always was, its just that now he's taking a different approach to the music industry and the power of a voice.

"One Mic" was the beginning of this new leaf and will continue to be the foundation upon which much of his new material is inspired.

If you truly understand him as an artist, you wouldn't say he fell off.

You can't deny that.

BaLLzZz · 10-14-2008, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Los Angeles

+1.

Nas has grown up and moved on.

He's said all that he has to say about cars and looking fly.

Now, he puts politics and worldly issues first, and the fly clothes and slang lingo is secondary.

Before, it was the other way around when he first started his career.

Nas has a family, dude is grown up, he's moved on. He's been there and done the things a lot of rappers are still talking about. He's one of the pioneers of "fly raps". Him, Biggie, Jay-Z.

Anyways, Nas is the same guy he always was, its just that now he's taking a different approach to the music industry and the power of a voice.

"One Mic" was the beginning of this new leaf and will continue to be the foundation upon which much of his new material is inspired.

If you truly understand him as an artist, you wouldn't say he fell off.

You can't deny that.

Ok so my opinions and his dont match now that I loved him for I dont know how many 10+ years I have to go against my will and listen to him. Sorry im not a dick rider. Like I said before anything he drops im gunna cop and listen to but if I like it or feel it as much as I usto is the question. And in my eyes he fell off some.

Year's_End · 10-14-2008, 02:43 PM

ok, nuff of nas. check out snowgoons.

c0nstant · 10-14-2008, 02:45 PM

Year's_End · 10-14-2008, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jh valley

haha ya, good stuff too. first heard him when i was really into the Gorillaz way back.

Los Angeles · 10-14-2008, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BaLLzZz

Ok so my opinions and his dont match now that I loved him for I dont know how many 10+ years I have to go against my will and listen to him. Sorry im not a dick rider. Like I said before anything he drops im gunna cop and listen to but if I like it or feel it as much as I usto is the question. And in my eyes he fell off some.

No one is saying you should "ride his dick".

Jumping to conclusions a bit?

All I was saying, is that he doesn't approach music the way he used to.

No one is saying you should always like him regardless of what he does.

If you don't like him, fine, but he hasn't "fallen off".

Maybe in your eyes, but that's because you like his old way more than his new ways.

Los Angeles · 10-14-2008, 04:08 PM

Anyone heard of Pacific Division?

"Women Problems"

"F.A.T. Boys 08"

Universal_Magnetic · 10-14-2008, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Los Angeles

+1.

Nas has grown up and moved on.

He's said all that he has to say about cars and looking fly.

Now, he puts politics and worldly issues first, and the fly clothes and slang lingo is secondary.

Before, it was the other way around when he first started his career.

Nas has a family, dude is grown up, he's moved on. He's been there and done the things a lot of rappers are still talking about. He's one of the pioneers of "fly raps". Him, Biggie, Jay-Z.

Anyways, Nas is the same guy he always was, its just that now he's taking a different approach to the music industry and the power of a voice.

"One Mic" was the beginning of this new leaf and will continue to be the foundation upon which much of his new material is inspired.

If you truly understand him as an artist, you wouldn't say he fell off.

You can't deny that.

+1 to this. sorry to bring this back but i feel the same way. Nas has grown, although i cant deny that i miss the Illmatic days.

His approach to being more of a "political" rapper was always there, its just a lot more pro-dominant now.

But back onto the subject of rap and hip-hop...

Year's_End · 10-15-2008, 01:32 PM

k i'm just gonna keep putting up more random tracks i like

Aesop - Flash Flood

AOTP - Battle Cry
[u2b]bF5shkuR3Lw&feature=related[/u2b]

Snowgoons - This is Where the Fun Stops

Snowgoons - Never
[u2b]dCtYyUp2dR8&feature=related[/u2b]

Year's_End · 10-22-2008, 05:58 PM

AOTP - The Torture Papers (FF to 00:55 to skip intro)

AOTP - Gorrilas
[u2b]LvbKxfATOSs&feature=related[/u2b]

AOTP - All Shall Perish
[u2b]it_NIjbfi7M&feature=related[/u2b]

Doap Nixon - Behind the Music

Doap Nixon - Tis the Season

Immortal Technique - The Point of No Return

Universal_Magnetic · 10-22-2008, 07:14 PM

Black Star - Definition

Mos Def: Travellin' Man (one of my favorite songs)

Black Star Ft. Common - Respiration

Talib Kweli Ft. Hi Tek - The Blast

more to come later...

inabis · 10-24-2008, 01:33 PM

Talib is maad nice. I remember watching the Blast video on tv...first time I ever heard of Talib Kweli. I like Consequence, I think he ghost writes for Kanye...very similar style but much more raw. I haven't heard a rapper stay with a theme in a song as well as he did here in a long time...

Fashionista · 10-24-2008, 04:28 PM

UNKLE. It's not hip hop, but it's urban.

YouTube: UNKLE

Year's_End · 10-24-2008, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Fashionista

UNKLE. It's not hip hop, but it's urban.

YouTube: UNKLE

that's not even close to rap or hip hop...

Fashionista · 10-24-2008, 05:05 PM

Didn't say it was. He asked for something to mellow out his driving. I offered an urban artist.

StrifeM3 · 10-24-2008, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Universal_Magnetic

One of my favourite tracks no doubt.

artists/groups id highly recommend:

AZ
Big L
Big Pun
Blackstar (Mos Def and Talib Kweli)
Common
Dead Prez
Dilated Peoples
Dr. Dre
Eric B and Rakim
The Firm (Nas, AZ, Foxy Brown, Nature with Dre and Stoute on the beats)
The Game (he just needs to stop with all the name dropping!)
Gang Star
Ice Cube
Immortal Technique
Kanye
Lupe
Masta Ace
Method and Redman
Mos Def
NWA
Nas (Illmatic is my favourite rap/hip-hop album)
Notorious BIG
Pete Rock and CL Smooth
Royce Da 5'9
Talib Kweli

Ive also lately become a pretty big fan of RJD2, great beats!

Some of my favorites left out, that would I would recommend

1. Canibus
2. Wu Family ( Ghostface Killah, cappadonna, ugod, inspectah deck, gza, rza, Method man, and raekwon)
3. Tupac
4. Jay-z classic Reasonable Doubt/ In My LifeTime Volume 1
5. Killarmy
6. Producer Anything DJ Premier Does is Fire....
7. Tribe Called Quest (Cant be left out)
8. De la Soul
9. Hieroglyphics
10. Boot Camp Click

Lyrcially hands down no one can mess with canibus...

Year's_End · 10-26-2008, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Fashionista

Didn't say it was. He asked for something to mellow out his driving. I offered an urban artist.

ohh i see. my bad.

Terrance28 · 10-26-2008, 05:26 PM

The 5 hottest rappers right now are lil wayne, Kanye West, Jay z, TI, Young Jeezy.

BaLLzZz · 10-26-2008, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Terrance28

The 5 hottest rappers right now are lil wayne, Kanye West, Jay z, TI, Young Jeezy.

OMG GET LIL WAYNE out of your head hes not the best... Jadakiss is killing it. Kayne Jigga TI Jeezy Fabo they all killin it too. Wayne just floods the market inconstantly.

Year's_End · 10-27-2008, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Terrance28

The 5 hottest rappers right now are lil wayne, Kanye West, Jay z, TI, Young Jeezy.

too bad the public has a horrible taste in music.

kanye and jay-z are alright, but the rest suck.

c0nstant · 10-27-2008, 04:04 AM

i hate kanye

Mu Mu · 10-27-2008, 11:54 AM

Some of te Vids posted are good! Keep em coming guys!!!

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Year's_End Lieutenant General 1246 Rep 12,446 Posts Drives: 2020 Shelby GT350 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: FL iTrader: (0)	k i'm just gonna keep putting up more random tracks i like Aesop - Flash Flood AOTP - Battle Cry [u2b]bF5shkuR3Lw&feature=related[/u2b] Snowgoons - This is Where the Fun Stops Snowgoons - Never [u2b]dCtYyUp2dR8&feature=related[/u2b] __________________ Past: '08 E92 335i\|ZPP\|ZSP\|6AT Past: '15 Mustang GT\|401A\|PP\|6MT Current: '20 Shelby GT350\|6MT
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Year's_End Lieutenant General 1246 Rep 12,446 Posts Drives: 2020 Shelby GT350 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: FL iTrader: (0)	AOTP - The Torture Papers (FF to 00:55 to skip intro) AOTP - Gorrilas [u2b]LvbKxfATOSs&feature=related[/u2b] AOTP - All Shall Perish [u2b]it_NIjbfi7M&feature=related[/u2b] Doap Nixon - Behind the Music Doap Nixon - Tis the Season Immortal Technique - The Point of No Return __________________ Past: '08 E92 335i\|ZPP\|ZSP\|6AT Past: '15 Mustang GT\|401A\|PP\|6MT Current: '20 Shelby GT350\|6MT
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