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I didn't say all the cars were bad. I agree on m2. But personally it's the only car I'd buy from them right now.
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No doubt they seriously dropped the ball not having a 2 Series sedan.
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I sat in an M850i a few months ago.
For a flagship model, it didn't feel special in any kind of way. The old 8 really was something else. The new one just a bloated big coupe, but nothing to set it apart.
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THIS !!! It's almost like I wrote this, I'm in total agreement...the Bangle designs were and still are very polarizing, but indeed timeless and have the 'right' design ethos of BMW..
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really, I still do not like E60 or E65..., thought only thing good in that era was E90
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Here’s an idea: make the 8 series prettier than a pig and with an interior fitting for such an expensive car and maybe you’ll sell more of them. Also decide whether you want to make a sporty coupe to rival the 911 or a big GT to rival the S class coupe. Jesus Christ they took the awesome 8 concept car and ruined it on the way to production. I am a bmw fan through and through but Mercedes’ fluid and elegant designs lately have been on the spot (even if I hate how all their cars look identical).
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The pre-LCI E65 is plain ugly til this day, frumpy in the front and rear, although the side profile is nice and sleek. The LCI I think cleaned up a bunch of the design problems it had, but I honestly find the E38 and pre-LCI G11/12 to be the best looking 7 series. |
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Also can someone explain to me the point of the 3 and 6 GT cars? I do think that the new 6 GT has the best kidney grill and lights than any current Bmw but I don’t see the need for these cars when you have the proper sedan and the Touring versions. They should have used the 6 GT’s design for the proper 5 which looks so BLAND now.
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Agreed never warmed up to the E60 then and not will I now.
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Agreed too! I have said loads of times that his designs still look fresh today (other than the E65 pre LCI), one of the many reasons why I am not interested in getting one of the current crop of BMWs.
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well, I guess bangel really succeed in capturing new audience, for the record I would say Mercedes's pivot to round headlight was the best pivot (then they come back again), the first round light E class were bad, but everything afterwards looks good (the round lights) on C/E/S/SL
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FWIW, BMW has always had a much more diversified portfolio than Porsche. Porsche only sells about 18% of the cars BMW does in the US every year, and nearly 75% of Porsche’s sales have four doors.
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I suppose Caddlic tried, and look at it, almost all of its sedan is getting shut down..., auto journalist loved CTS driving experience, the market outside enthusiasts didn't cared... Had Caddy done with better interior then who knows, though that would probably make it more expensive and stop being "value" proposition and just have to be better than the German equivalent everywhere. |
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